MGM esc programming problem

[RaceMechaniX]

Understood Terry,

The honest fact is boaters are the most abusive of speed controls in the entire hobby. I can't think of any other model type that can continuously ask for maximum power as long as we can.
Consider that all model controllers are rated for peak currents of only several seconds and continuous current is half the rated current. Than a MGM28026 is good for 140A DC continuous.
MGM has two lines of motor controllers, one for hobbyists and another for industrial use. The ratings for the industrial line are half of what the hobby grade is.

We got lucky with the T180V2 and the last version of the Hydra ICE or the current ICE controllers with appropriate cooling. The old Schulze is still the most underrated controller we have seen.

If you want to be competitive and finish we all need reliable set-ups. Run an MGM with a Lehner or a TP/Neu/Leopard with a converted Castle.

This is what a Castle needs to look like to have adequate cooling.
IMG_8196.jpgICE 200 Lite LC 2.jpgIMG_1192.JPG

[RandyatBBY]

Randy, I assume you a have a typo for the 2030.

For P-sport, I run a Phil Thomas Stealth on 4S2P with a 1950/5 and a X440/3. It will run 72-74 although it is completely undriveable.

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The LTM motor is a 3040 sorry sucks having 69 year old memory, lol

I will have to look for a 1950/5 and save up for it.

Tyler what controller do you think is the best for my 4S setup?

[RaceMechaniX]

Randy,
I think you are running a heavier boat than I am so a 1950 is not going push a 10lb+ boat. I would look at a 2240 or 2250 if you want a LMT motor. 1900-2200kv range. Otherwise I would suggest a TP4060 in the same kv range. The LMT motors will work well with the MGM28026/25035 or a Castle ICE 200 converted. The TP motor will work good with the Castle.

-Tyler

[RandyatBBY]

Randy,
I think you are running a heavier boat than I am so a 1950 is not going push a 10lb+ boat. I would look at a 2240 or 2250 if you want a LMT motor. 1900-2200kv range. Otherwise I would suggest a TP4060 in the same kv range. The LMT motors will work well with the MGM28026/25035 or a Castle ICE 200 converted. The TP motor will work good with the Castle.

-Tyler

Ya that is correct a 11 pound boat. Where is the best/cheapest to get a LTM? I do not have any Castle's working any more other than Monster 2's for speck or P LTD. I can not find the Castle ICE 200 is it discontinued?

[Fluid]

The Castle ICE has been discontinued for several years. Today the EDGE is its replacement and reportedly works as well. I’ve been running modified ICE controllers for years, haven’t burned one up for a long time since I started adding a few caps. Even setting SAW records failed to burn one.



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[RandyatBBY]

The Castle ICE has been discontinued for several years. Today the EDGE is its replacement and reportedly works as well. I’ve been running modified ICE controllers for years, haven’t burned one up for a long time since I started adding a few caps. Even setting SAW records failed to burn one.



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I only found a PHX Edge 160 HV 50V 160 AMP ESC is it strong enough for a hot 4S setup?

[Fluid]

This is hijacking the thread so I’m stopping after this post.

Randy, this is the EDGE I’d use for a 4S boat. The ICE was rated at 200 amps in planes, and 240 amps with watercooling. A watercooled EDGE should be plenty.

http://www.castlecreations.com/en/phoenix-edge-lite-2/phoenix-edge-lite-200-esc-010-0109-00

[RandyatBBY]

This is hijacking the thread so I’m stopping after this post.

Randy, this is the EDGE I’d use for a 4S boat. The ICE was rated at 200 amps in planes, and 240 amps with watercooling. A watercooled EDGE should be plenty.

http://www.castlecreations.com/en/phoenix-edge/phoenix-edge-200-esc-010-0098-00

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Thanks I can only get this ESC from CC. Tower and GP do not list them.

Sorry Peter for hijacking this thread. So much good info on a general thread.

[T.S.Davis]

Much better than an edge is the Mamba XLX. You can drop it into the case from an old Ice 240 and yer done.

[RaceMechaniX]

Randy, Do not get the HV version! They are not nearly as stout as the LV versions.

Get this one and add water cooling. http://www.castlecreations.com/en/ph...sc-010-0109-00

The benefit of getting the "lite" version is you don't have to clean off the ceramic thermal paste. The "lite" version is already prepped and ready for cooling tubes. Since you are a master silversmith this should be straight forward for you.

Be sure to conformal coat the ESC after you solder or thermal paste the cooling tubes on.

[triton]

Thanks I can only get this ESC from CC. Tower and GP do not list them.

Sorry Peter for hijacking this thread. So much good info on a general thread.

No problem:)
But if I can propose something for the 4S boat, I really like the flier 8s 250 ESC. I have a very good experience with this type. Its very stable and reliable product. I have used it more than 3 years and never had problem. And you can use it on more then the edge without trouble.
One thing you must to do before use to coating the PCB with plastidip.

[srislash]

I just want to thank you guys for this thread. Lots of good reading/learning. And thanks Tyler for all the insights and testing. Also thank you Thomas for getting involved and hopefully this will lead to new developments.
I haven’t jumped to MGM yet but do now have a LMT powered boat together so maybe... soon.
Shawn

[RandyatBBY]

I just want to thank you guys for this thread. Lots of good reading/learning. And thanks Tyler for all the insights and testing. Also thank you Thomas for getting involved and hopefully this will lead to new developments.
I haven’t jumped to MGM yet but do now have a LMT powered boat together so maybe... soon.
Shawn

You hit the nail on the head. Thanks every one for the honest input.

[T.S.Davis]

Tyler, I have another question.

Each of these comes with a trio of resisters. A 100r, 47r, and a 22r. Any idea what these are for or what to do with them?

[triton]

Tyler, I have another question.

Each of these comes with a trio of resisters. A 100r, 47r, and a 22r. Any idea what these are for or what to do with them?

Sorry for answerring
Anti spark resistors