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    Default Veles Fast List!!!

    I thought what Keagan did with the Zelos is a great reference tool for us so I figured I would copy his lead and compile this for reference. I am pretty sure some info has changed or may be incorrect but this is to start with and I can update as the info comes along. If any members want to post their MPH and props here I will add you to the list. I can add a metric for Mods such as motors, esc, etc. For those missing props on this list is because I can't confirm if it was stock or another prop. Let me know and I'll add them. The list will be sorted by the fastest. Also I'm sure this boat will see twin motors or upgraded Motors down the road, so I have added a Modified section as well. Since this "Fast list" is something Keagan does well with and if he wants to take over this thread he will be handed the keys right away (hint...hint)...Lol

    The trophy _____________ has is the modded trophy (no longer stock motors or ESCs) The trophy MADRCER holds is the stock configuration trophy (ESCs & Motors remain factory) It is pretty obvious why ___________ holds that coveted shiny trophy. I would of loved to get these trophies to the right side of the info for each member but the forum ain't having it.


    A few rules and comments are below.
    1. Must show proof. Either GPS or Data Log
    2. In the event of a tie (same speeds ran) the person who has the most documented run (video, Datalogs, etc.) would be the one that holds that spot.
    3. Must be a OSE Member.
    4. I'm sure the ones that view this would want this to be good useful information for reference and a lot of newcomers will indeed view this so I would think that most hobbyist would like to see speeds from a practical setup that one can run safely in a SAW type run with without risk of burning their stuff up.
    5. I don't check the fast list daily but I'm pretty active on the forums still. If you want me to add you, post here. If I don't within 2 days, PM me please!
    6. Disclaimer I have requested that people give pratical setup information, so with that being said, myself or OSE can not be held accountable or responsible if you try any of the below setups and something happens to you or your boat. If you elect to try these setups on your boat you are doing it at your own risk!





    MODIFIED VELES 29! (Who needs stock Motors & ESC's?)

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    Member:
    MPH:
    Prop:
    ESC:
    Motors:
    Batteries:



    STOCK VELES 29 on 6s! (The way it was delivered from the factory)

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    Member: MADRCER
    MPH: 75.18
    Prop: ABC 1716-17-45 Dasboata
    ESC: Stock
    Motor: Stock
    Batteries: 2x3s Revolectrix



    Member: rcboone2000
    MPH: 70
    Prop: ABC 1714 Dasboata
    ESC: Stock
    Motor: Stock
    Batteries:2x3s Turnigy


    Member: vinnyp
    MPH: 63.5
    Prop: ABC 1716 (s&b by vinnyp)
    ESC: stock
    Motor: stock
    Batteries: SMC 3s 5200 lipos


    STOCK VELES 29 on 4s! (The way it was delivered from the factory)


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    Member: MADRCER
    MPH: 57.16
    Prop: ABC 1816 Dasboata
    ESC: Stock (140° on a 3.5 min WOT run)
    Motor: Stock (145° on a 3.5 min WOT run)
    Batteries: 2x2s SMC 5200mah 90c



    Member: rcboone2000
    MPH: 55
    Prop: ABC 2214-10-50 (NOTE: electronics very hot)
    ESC: Stock
    Motor: Stock
    Batteries: 2x2s Turnigy


    Member:
    MPH:
    Prop:
    ESC:
    Motor:
    Batteries:
    Last edited by MADRCER; 11-12-2017 at 08:14 PM.
    Zelos Twin 36 stock w/3831's (90mph), Veles 29 stock (75.18mph), Miss Geico 29v3 stock w/3831 (78mph), Motley Crew Cat (47.5mph), H-King Relentless v2, Barbwire XL, Feilun FT011, AquaCraft Rescue 17, Atlantic II Tug

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    Default Other Veles or 3831 equipped boat notables

    Other speed reporting's from a "stock" Veles 29 or any 3831 equipped boat if anyone is interested. Not saying that I recommend all of these props but just wanted to pass some info.

    4s Veles
    42mph stock 1.7x1.6 prop s&b (MADRCER) temps were E 110° and M 120°
    50mph ABC 1914 (rcboone2000) temps were good
    54.2mph ABC 1816 s&b on a single 4s Revo 435 blend (MADRCER)
    55mph ABC 2214-10-50 (rcboone2000) NOTE: electronics very hot
    57mph ABC 1816 2x2s SMC 5200 (MADRCER) temps were in check for this motor and ESC combo (E 140° and M 145°)

    6s Veles
    55mph stock prop Raw (rcboone2000)
    59.3mph stock prop Raw (Pro Boat Developer team)
    59.6mph stock prop s&b (vinnyp)
    60mph stock prop s&b (MADRCER)
    61mph stock prop s&b (rcboone2000)
    70mph ABC 1714 (rcboone2000)
    75.18mph ABC 1716 (MADRCER)

    6s "other 3831 equipped boats"
    63mph ProBoat 1.7x1.6 ss s&b MG29v3 (MADRCER)
    64mph x440/3 BJ29 (REDLINE1)
    68.5mph ABC 1716 MG29v3 (fweasel)
    76mph ABC 1716 BJ29 (REDLINE1)
    77.8/78mph ABC 1716 MG29v3 (MADRCER)
    Last edited by MADRCER; 11-14-2017 at 09:40 PM.
    Zelos Twin 36 stock w/3831's (90mph), Veles 29 stock (75.18mph), Miss Geico 29v3 stock w/3831 (78mph), Motley Crew Cat (47.5mph), H-King Relentless v2, Barbwire XL, Feilun FT011, AquaCraft Rescue 17, Atlantic II Tug

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    Mark,
    Nice job on the fast list. If I can ever get mine to make a lap, I may get a speed # out of it.

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    Default Veles 29 hits 75mph!

    Zelos Twin 36 stock w/3831's (90mph), Veles 29 stock (75.18mph), Miss Geico 29v3 stock w/3831 (78mph), Motley Crew Cat (47.5mph), H-King Relentless v2, Barbwire XL, Feilun FT011, AquaCraft Rescue 17, Atlantic II Tug

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    I finally got a run in with the Veles today. Had real good conditions, no wind, calm water. Unfortunately, my run didn't last very long. The steering servo gears stripped out rather quickly. I know that I could have gotten more out of it today had the gears not failed. Anyway, this is what I got..Sorry but I don't have a video. GoPro is in the works. Veles speed 10-7.jpg
    maybe Mark should start me off on the Veles " not so fast" list???

    Stock electronics
    Stock s.s. prop balanced and sharpened by myself
    SMC 3s 5200 lipos

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    Nice run Vinny. If you didn't have bad luck, you'd have none at all... At least it didn't sink!
    Zelos 36 Twin, Voracity 36, Miss Geico 29 V3, King of Shaves P1, Mini Zonda 27, Delta Force 26, Offshore Infinity, Stealthwake, Vac-U-Tug Jr

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    Yeah thanks Ryan.

    Hence my nickname..... blackcloud

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinnyp View Post
    I finally got a run in with the Veles today. Had real good conditions, no wind, calm water. Unfortunately, my run didn't last very long. The steering servo gears stripped out rather quickly. I know that I could have gotten more out of it today had the gears not failed. Anyway, this is what I got..Sorry but I don't have a video. GoPro is in the works. Veles speed 10-7.jpg
    maybe Mark should start me off on the Veles " not so fast" list???

    Stock electronics
    Stock s.s. prop balanced and sharpened by myself
    SMC 3s 5200 lipos

    Good Job VP! I got your info posted. That's .3mph faster than Pro Boat ran with the boat in their first few test so I wouldn't hang my head on that run.
    Last edited by MADRCER; 10-30-2017 at 11:45 PM.
    Zelos Twin 36 stock w/3831's (90mph), Veles 29 stock (75.18mph), Miss Geico 29v3 stock w/3831 (78mph), Motley Crew Cat (47.5mph), H-King Relentless v2, Barbwire XL, Feilun FT011, AquaCraft Rescue 17, Atlantic II Tug

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    Default Veles 29 Hits 57mph on 4s!!

    I finally took the Veles out today for a 4s run. The speeds were 56.3mph and 57mph from the GPS devices. I ran several laps on this run with this setup and the temps were 140° ESC and 145° motor. Thanks to my "Propsmith" Chris Hoffman for the custom ABC prop. Batteries used were SMC 2x2s 5200mah 7.4 volt 90c.

    57mph veles 29 on 4s.jpg Veles 29 57mph telementry 10-12-17.jpg veles 57mph.jpg

    Zelos Twin 36 stock w/3831's (90mph), Veles 29 stock (75.18mph), Miss Geico 29v3 stock w/3831 (78mph), Motley Crew Cat (47.5mph), H-King Relentless v2, Barbwire XL, Feilun FT011, AquaCraft Rescue 17, Atlantic II Tug

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    Since I am a big fan of the Dynamite 3831 motor I have created an addition to this thread above in the second post and I have added some other notable speeds that I have found on the forums from a Veles 29 and or a 3831 equipped boat such as its predecessor Miss Geico 29 or Black Jack 29. I didn't add any Zelos 36 speeds with 3831's since there already is a Zelos fast list that covers them already. If anyone wants to be added please post and let me know your numbers or if anyone wants to be removed that I may have added by searching forums please let me know. Thanks and I hope this reference list helps someone down the road with your setup.
    Last edited by MADRCER; 10-15-2017 at 12:36 AM.
    Zelos Twin 36 stock w/3831's (90mph), Veles 29 stock (75.18mph), Miss Geico 29v3 stock w/3831 (78mph), Motley Crew Cat (47.5mph), H-King Relentless v2, Barbwire XL, Feilun FT011, AquaCraft Rescue 17, Atlantic II Tug

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    A couple of runs today with the Veles on a windy day. The first run I was running 4s 2x2s 5200mah SMC 90c 100% all stock (prop and all) and got 42mph. In these conditions the boat ran pretty wet running 4s and strut adjustments could be made to gain a few more mph if I was more into 4s running. The next run was a 6s run with a 1716 using 2x3s SMC 5200 90c lipos and got 72mph. The SMC's I thought might rival my Revo 420's 5000mah but they came up a bit short, However in all fairness the conditions weren't the greatest for the SMC's for matching apples to apples. I will give them another shot one day in better conditions and see if they can do any better, but I would say they perform pretty close to my Gens Ace packs in this boat. The 6s video will be posted below in the next post due to the one video limit on each post.

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    Last edited by MADRCER; 10-30-2017 at 09:08 AM.
    Zelos Twin 36 stock w/3831's (90mph), Veles 29 stock (75.18mph), Miss Geico 29v3 stock w/3831 (78mph), Motley Crew Cat (47.5mph), H-King Relentless v2, Barbwire XL, Feilun FT011, AquaCraft Rescue 17, Atlantic II Tug

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    The 6s run is here.
    Veles 29 72mph smc5200.jpg
    Zelos Twin 36 stock w/3831's (90mph), Veles 29 stock (75.18mph), Miss Geico 29v3 stock w/3831 (78mph), Motley Crew Cat (47.5mph), H-King Relentless v2, Barbwire XL, Feilun FT011, AquaCraft Rescue 17, Atlantic II Tug

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    Another nice clean run. The difference between 4s and 6s is astounding. Tough to beat those SMC's for the money.

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    Default Veles touch up paint option.

    For anyone looking for touch up paint for the Veles I have found a combination that looks decent. It's not an exact match but close enough for me. I mixed some Testors Sublime green with Gloss Bright lime and It blends in and matches where I have to really look for the spot in order to find it, so I am ok with it until something better is found. I believe this could be made an exact match if one wanted to keep mixing until you mixed the exact shade. In the below picture with me holding the two bottles together you can see the spot that I touched up with it.

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    Zelos Twin 36 stock w/3831's (90mph), Veles 29 stock (75.18mph), Miss Geico 29v3 stock w/3831 (78mph), Motley Crew Cat (47.5mph), H-King Relentless v2, Barbwire XL, Feilun FT011, AquaCraft Rescue 17, Atlantic II Tug

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    I had the opportunity to run the Veles today. Ran it on my SMC 5200's 3S lipos, ABC 1716 prepped by myself. I had an issue with the lipos. I just got a new charger and think I may not have had it set properly. Don't think I got a full charge. Damn thing was cutting out and sputtering on me during a full throttle pass. In any case, this is the run today. Had flat water, no wind, cool air temps. Ran 63.5 mph. Getting there, but not there yet. Video is a bit grainy, not sure why. I should have just kept it recording while I unscrewed the hatch. I uploaded 2 videos instead.

    Last edited by vinnyp; 11-12-2017 at 06:45 PM. Reason: error

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    Verification of speed...Update me Mark... Thanks...


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    Updated. Good Job Vinny! I was planning a 6s and a 4s run today with my single Revo 4s pack but forgot my jumper plug to bypass the second EC5 connector on my ESC. So, I was only able to get a 6s run in and I only got 73.2mph. I believe I can Hit 60mph or get very close with my Revo 4s pack. Oh well maybe next time.

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    Last edited by MADRCER; 11-12-2017 at 08:36 PM.
    Zelos Twin 36 stock w/3831's (90mph), Veles 29 stock (75.18mph), Miss Geico 29v3 stock w/3831 (78mph), Motley Crew Cat (47.5mph), H-King Relentless v2, Barbwire XL, Feilun FT011, AquaCraft Rescue 17, Atlantic II Tug

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    Another nice 6s run Mark. I wouldn't think that a 4s pack would fit in the Veles tray.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinnyp View Post
    Another nice 6s run Mark. I wouldn't think that a 4s pack would fit in the Veles tray.
    Thanks. Yes the 4s pack fits but I had to remove the Velcro from the bottom of it that I had on it for my other boats. but will fit perfect. Here is the video of my run today.

    Zelos Twin 36 stock w/3831's (90mph), Veles 29 stock (75.18mph), Miss Geico 29v3 stock w/3831 (78mph), Motley Crew Cat (47.5mph), H-King Relentless v2, Barbwire XL, Feilun FT011, AquaCraft Rescue 17, Atlantic II Tug

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    I just watched your video. I noticed something very unusual. I had flatter water than you did today. Must have been a shift in Earths gravity.

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    I just ran my 4s comparison run today of my Revo 435 series vs my 2x2s SMC's. Water was glass and no wind, perfect conditions for 4s or 6s.....Well the 2x2s 5200mAh SMC packs win in the shootout 56.3mph/57mph vs 54.2/54mph for the Revo 435 series 5800mAh. Below is the video of the Revo test scroll up in this thread for the SMC run. When the boat was taking off and trying to get on plane it looked like it had Hydraulics and "three wheeling" on water...lol! But when it got on plane it handled very well with the single 4s Revo "house brick" on the left side and offsetting the torque twist nicely...Thanks to my "propsmith" Chris as well!

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    Zelos Twin 36 stock w/3831's (90mph), Veles 29 stock (75.18mph), Miss Geico 29v3 stock w/3831 (78mph), Motley Crew Cat (47.5mph), H-King Relentless v2, Barbwire XL, Feilun FT011, AquaCraft Rescue 17, Atlantic II Tug

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    ...and some question it's ability to turn....


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    Zelos Twin 36 stock w/3831's (90mph), Veles 29 stock (75.18mph), Miss Geico 29v3 stock w/3831 (78mph), Motley Crew Cat (47.5mph), H-King Relentless v2, Barbwire XL, Feilun FT011, AquaCraft Rescue 17, Atlantic II Tug

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    You are lucky that thing turned as well as it did. Came real close to that pier on your first turn. I feel mine turns well also. Hooked a few hard turns here and there.
    Last edited by vinnyp; 11-14-2017 at 11:05 PM.

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    Yea, yours looked pretty sporty as well....I wonder who you got notes from on your setup... Only thing you're missing is about 3 more seconds of holding that trigger down, get your batteries worked out and then I can move you on up to the 70mph club.
    Zelos Twin 36 stock w/3831's (90mph), Veles 29 stock (75.18mph), Miss Geico 29v3 stock w/3831 (78mph), Motley Crew Cat (47.5mph), H-King Relentless v2, Barbwire XL, Feilun FT011, AquaCraft Rescue 17, Atlantic II Tug

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    Yeah... I think I have to move the packs around some to go any faster. Considering how this boat started out, its come a long way.

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