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    Default Veles Fast List!!!

    I thought the Fast List that Keagan created for the Zelos 36 is a great reference tool for us, so I figured I would copy his lead and create one for the Veles 29. I am pretty sure some info has changed or may be incorrect but this is to start with and I can update as the info comes along. If any members want to post their MPH and props here I will add you to the list. I can add a metric for Mods such as motors, esc, etc. For those missing props on this list is because I can't confirm if it was stock or another prop. Let me know and I'll add them. The list will be sorted by the fastest. Also I'm sure this boat will see twin motors or upgraded Motors down the road, so I have added a Modified section as well.

    The trophy ________ has is the modded trophy (no longer stock motors or ESCs) The trophy MADRCER holds is the stock configuration trophy (ESCs & Motors remain factory). It is pretty obvious why _______ holds that coveted shiny trophy. I would of loved to get these trophies to the right side of the info for each member but the forum ain't having it.

    A few rules and comments are below.
    1. Must show proof. Either GPS or Data Log
    2. In the event of a tie (same speeds ran) the person who has the most documented run (video, Datalogs, etc.) would be the one that holds that spot.
    3. Must be a OSE Member.
    4. I'm sure the ones that view this would want this to be good useful information for reference and a lot of newcomers will indeed view this so I would think that most hobbyist would like to see speeds from a practical setup that one can run safely in a SAW type run with without risk of burning their stuff up.
    5. I don't check the fast list daily but I'm pretty active on the forums still. If you want me to add you, post here. If I don't within 2 days, PM me please!
    6. Disclaimer I have requested that people give practical setup information, so with that being said, myself or OSE can not be held accountable or responsible if you try any of the below setups and something happens to you or your boat. If you elect to try these setups on your boat you are doing it at your own risk!



    MODIFIED VELES 29! (Who needs stock Motors & ESC's?)

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    Member:
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    Prop:
    ESC:
    Motors:
    Batteries:


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    STOCK VELES 29 on 6s! (The way it was delivered from the factory)

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    Member: MADRCER
    MPH: 80.15mph (129kmh)
    Prop: ABC 1716-17-45
    ESC: Stock
    Motor: Stock
    Batteries: 2x3s Revo
    Mods: NONE
    Video link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlpdo0DxJ7w&t=2s

    Member: Brushman
    MPH: 78.29mph (126kmh)
    Prop: ABC 1616-17-45
    ESC: Stock
    Motor: Stock
    Batteries:2x3s EPS 75c
    Mods: Aftermarket rudder, Oversized ESC Cap Banks installed, and Larger bullet battery connectors.
    Video link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcwUG4wjOjk

    Member: rcboone2000
    MPH: 70
    Prop: ABC 1714 (Dasboata)
    ESC: Stock
    Motor: Stock
    Batteries:2x3s Turnigy
    Mods: NONE
    Video link:


    Member: MADRCER
    MPH: 70
    Prop: stock Pro Boat prop
    ESC: Stock
    Motor: Stock
    Batteries: 2x3s Revo
    Mods: NONE
    Video link:

    Member: Nemesis17592
    MPH:68
    Prop: Dasboata 1715
    ESC: Stock
    Motors: Stock
    Batteries: (2) 3s REVO 70c

    Member: Berdeman
    MPH: 66.5
    Prop: ABC 1716-17-45 (Dasboata)
    ESC: stock
    Motor: stock
    Batteries: 2x3s SMC 7200mah
    Mods: NONE
    Video link:


    Member: vinnyp
    MPH: 65.9
    Prop: stock Pro Boat prop (s&b by vinnyp)
    ESC: stock
    Motor: stock
    Batteries: SMC 3s 5200 lipos
    Mods: NONE
    Video link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSE60P_LeaY&t=3s


    Member: Team kfxguy,Tinman and Ricky
    MPH: 64
    Prop: stock Pro Boat prop (s&b by kfxguy)
    ESC: stock
    Motor: stock
    Batteries:
    Mods: NONE
    Video link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wi08ElP4Hzc&t=1s


    STOCK VELES 29 on 4s! (The way it was delivered from the factory)


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    Member: MADRCER
    MPH: 57.16 (92kmh)
    Prop: ABC 1816
    ESC: Stock
    Motor: Stock
    Batteries: 2x2s SMC 5200mah 90c
    Video link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9PPfggFmsw&t=3s


    Member: rcboone2000
    MPH: 55
    Prop: ABC 2214-10-50 (NOTE: electronics very hot)
    ESC: Stock
    Motor: Stock
    Batteries: 2x2s Turnigy
    Video link:

    Member:
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    Last edited by MADRCER; 06-12-2021 at 12:57 PM. Reason: Updated
    TFL Zonda (124mph), Miss Geico Zelos 36 (108mph), Veles 29 (91mph), Zelos Twin 36 (90mph), Miss Geico 29v3 (83.5mph), Sonicwake 36 V2 (83mph), Blackjack 42 (81mph), TFL Pursuit (79mph), UL-19 (75mph), Sonicwake 36 (73mph), Motley Crew (47.5mph), AquaCraft Rescue 17

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    Default Other Veles, UL-19 or any 3831 equipped boat notables

    Since I am a big fan of the Dynamite 3831 motor I have created an addition to this thread below I have added some other notable speeds that I have found on the forums from a Veles 29 and or a 3831 equipped boat such as its predecessor Miss Geico 29 or Black Jack 29. I didn't add any Zelos 36 speeds with 3831's since there is already is a Zelos fast list that covers them already. If anyone wants to be added please post and let me know your numbers. Thanks and I hope this reference list helps someone down the road with their setup.

    Other speed reporting's from a "stock" Veles 29, UL-19 or any "other" 3831 equipped boat if anyone is interested. I'm not saying that I recommend all of these props but just wanted to pass some info.

    4s Veles
    50mph ABC 1914 (rcboone2000) temps were good
    54.2mph ABC 1816 s&b on a single 4s Revo (MADRCER) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MSV2-_3ZKE&t=2s
    55mph ABC 2214-10-50 (rcboone2000) NOTE: electronics very hot
    55.4mph ABC 1815 (MADRCER) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BAQNjM98sA
    57mph ABC 1816 (MADRCER) temps were in the 140° and 145°


    6s Veles
    55mph stock prop Raw (rcboone2000)
    59.3mph stock prop Raw (Pro Boat Development team)
    61mph stock prop s&b (rcboone2000)
    64mph stock prop s&b by kfxguy (kfxguy.Ricky and TinMan)
    65.9mph stock prop s&b (vinnyp) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSE60P_LeaY
    68.8mph (MADRCER) running vinnyp's Veles 1716 prop
    70mph stock prop s&b (MADRCER)
    70mph ABC 1714 (rcboone2000)
    77mph ABC 1716 (MADRCER) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGK2aj9RAKw&t=1s
    78.5mph ABC 1715 (MADRCER) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xm00mOvz8fg&t=21s
    79mph ABC 1715 (MADRCER) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWH62jNz5u8&t=7s
    80mph ABC 1716 (MADRCER) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlpdo0DxJ7w&t=52s


    4s UL-19 and "other" 3831 equipped boats
    48mph (PB) 1.7x1.6 ss s&b BHChieftain UL-19
    50.1mph (PB) 1.7x1.6 ss UL-19 stock (MADRCER)
    51mph ABC 1716 s&b BHChieftain UL-19 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIQ8eGhszAE&t=30s
    52.4mph ABC 1716 s&b UL-19 (MADRCER) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pBAuOVWJTA
    53.2mph ABC 1814 S&b by Brian Buaas MG29v3 (flattrack)
    60mph ABC 1815-17-45 Black Pearl - Spec Sport Hydro on 4S (TRUCKPULL)


    5s UL-19 and "other" 3831 equipped boats
    59.3mph ABC 1716 s&b UL-19 (MADRCER) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8aRT9Y5Cd4


    6s UL-19 and "other" 3831 equipped boats
    63.5mph x440/3 MG29v3 (fweasel)
    64mph x440/3 BJ29 (REDLINE1)
    68.1mph ABC 1715 s&b by dasboata MG29v3 (fweasel)
    68.5mph ABC 1716 s&b by dasboata MG29v3 (fweasel)
    70mph Pro Boat 1.7x1.6 ss s&b UL-19 (MADRCER)
    75mph ABC 1716 s&b UL-19 (MADRCER)
    76mph ABC 1716 BJ29 (REDLINE1)
    78mph ABC 1716 s&b MG29v3 (MADRCER) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yC8XH6b_UZg&t=1s
    83.5mph ABC 1716 s&b MG29v3 (MADRCER) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILaRY_6eWIs
    Last edited by MADRCER; 06-19-2021 at 09:52 PM. Reason: Updated
    TFL Zonda (124mph), Miss Geico Zelos 36 (108mph), Veles 29 (91mph), Zelos Twin 36 (90mph), Miss Geico 29v3 (83.5mph), Sonicwake 36 V2 (83mph), Blackjack 42 (81mph), TFL Pursuit (79mph), UL-19 (75mph), Sonicwake 36 (73mph), Motley Crew (47.5mph), AquaCraft Rescue 17

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    Mark,
    Nice job on the fast list. If I can ever get mine to make a lap, I may get a speed # out of it.

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    Default Veles 29 Hits 75mph

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    TFL Zonda (124mph), Miss Geico Zelos 36 (108mph), Veles 29 (91mph), Zelos Twin 36 (90mph), Miss Geico 29v3 (83.5mph), Sonicwake 36 V2 (83mph), Blackjack 42 (81mph), TFL Pursuit (79mph), UL-19 (75mph), Sonicwake 36 (73mph), Motley Crew (47.5mph), AquaCraft Rescue 17

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    I finally got a run in with the Veles today. Had real good conditions, no wind, calm water. Unfortunately, my run didn't last very long. The steering servo gears stripped out rather quickly. I know that I could have gotten more out of it today had the gears not failed. Anyway, this is what I got..Sorry but I don't have a video. GoPro is in the works. Veles speed 10-7.jpg
    maybe Mark should start me off on the Veles " not so fast" list???

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    Nice run Vinny. If you didn't have bad luck, you'd have none at all... At least it didn't sink!
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    Yeah thanks Ryan.

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    Good Run VP! I got your info posted.
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    TFL Zonda (124mph), Miss Geico Zelos 36 (108mph), Veles 29 (91mph), Zelos Twin 36 (90mph), Miss Geico 29v3 (83.5mph), Sonicwake 36 V2 (83mph), Blackjack 42 (81mph), TFL Pursuit (79mph), UL-19 (75mph), Sonicwake 36 (73mph), Motley Crew (47.5mph), AquaCraft Rescue 17

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    Default Veles 29 Hits 57mph on 4s!!

    I finally took the Veles out today for a 4s run. The speeds were 56.3mph and 57mph from the GPS devices. I ran several laps on this run with this setup and the temps were 140° ESC and 145° motor. Batteries used were SMC 2x2s 5200mah 7.4 volt 90c.

    57mph veles 29 on 4s.jpg Veles 29 57mph telementry 10-12-17.jpg veles 57mph.jpg

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    TFL Zonda (124mph), Miss Geico Zelos 36 (108mph), Veles 29 (91mph), Zelos Twin 36 (90mph), Miss Geico 29v3 (83.5mph), Sonicwake 36 V2 (83mph), Blackjack 42 (81mph), TFL Pursuit (79mph), UL-19 (75mph), Sonicwake 36 (73mph), Motley Crew (47.5mph), AquaCraft Rescue 17

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    A couple of runs today with the Veles on a windy day. The first run I was running 4s 2x2s 5200mah SMC 90c 100% all stock (prop and all) and got 42mph. In these conditions the boat ran pretty wet running 4s and strut adjustments could be made to gain a few more mph if I was more into 4s running. The next run was a 6s run with a 1716 using 2x3s SMC 5200 90c lipos and got 72mph. However in all fairness the conditions weren't the greatest for the SMC's for matching apples to apples. I will give them another shot one day in better conditions and see if they can do any better, but I would say they perform pretty close to my Gens Ace packs in this boat. The 6s video will be posted below in the next post due to the one video limit on each post.

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    Last edited by MADRCER; 06-23-2018 at 11:47 AM.
    TFL Zonda (124mph), Miss Geico Zelos 36 (108mph), Veles 29 (91mph), Zelos Twin 36 (90mph), Miss Geico 29v3 (83.5mph), Sonicwake 36 V2 (83mph), Blackjack 42 (81mph), TFL Pursuit (79mph), UL-19 (75mph), Sonicwake 36 (73mph), Motley Crew (47.5mph), AquaCraft Rescue 17

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    The 6s run is here.
    Veles 29 72mph smc5200.jpg
    TFL Zonda (124mph), Miss Geico Zelos 36 (108mph), Veles 29 (91mph), Zelos Twin 36 (90mph), Miss Geico 29v3 (83.5mph), Sonicwake 36 V2 (83mph), Blackjack 42 (81mph), TFL Pursuit (79mph), UL-19 (75mph), Sonicwake 36 (73mph), Motley Crew (47.5mph), AquaCraft Rescue 17

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    Another nice clean run. The difference between 4s and 6s is astounding. Tough to beat those SMC's for the money.

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    Default Veles touch up paint option.

    For anyone looking for touch up paint for the Veles I have found a combination that looks decent. It's not an exact match but close enough for me. I mixed some Testors Sublime green with Gloss Bright lime and It blends in and matches where I have to really look for the spot in order to find it, so I am ok with it until something better is found. I believe this could be made an exact match if one wanted to keep mixing until you mixed the exact shade. In the below picture with me holding the two bottles together you can see the spot that I touched up with it.

    20171110_211502.jpg 20171110_211520.jpg 20171110_211730.jpg20171110_212133.jpg 20171110_212257.jpg
    TFL Zonda (124mph), Miss Geico Zelos 36 (108mph), Veles 29 (91mph), Zelos Twin 36 (90mph), Miss Geico 29v3 (83.5mph), Sonicwake 36 V2 (83mph), Blackjack 42 (81mph), TFL Pursuit (79mph), UL-19 (75mph), Sonicwake 36 (73mph), Motley Crew (47.5mph), AquaCraft Rescue 17

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    I had the opportunity to run the Veles today. Ran it on my SMC 5200's 3S lipos, ABC 1716 prepped by myself. I had an issue with the lipos. I just got a new charger and think I may not have had it set properly. Don't think I got a full charge. Damn thing was cutting out and sputtering on me during a full throttle pass. In any case, this is the run today. Had flat water, no wind, cool air temps. Ran 63.5 mph. Getting there, but not there yet. Video is a bit grainy, not sure why. I should have just kept it recording while I unscrewed the hatch. I uploaded 2 videos instead.

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    Verification of speed...Update me Mark... Thanks...


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    Updated. Good Job Vinny! I was planning a 6s and a 4s run today with my single Revo 4s pack but forgot my jumper plug to bypass the second EC5 connector on my ESC. So, I was only able to get a 6s run in and I only got 73.2mph. I believe I can Hit 60mph or get very close with my Revo 4s pack. Oh well maybe next time.

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    TFL Zonda (124mph), Miss Geico Zelos 36 (108mph), Veles 29 (91mph), Zelos Twin 36 (90mph), Miss Geico 29v3 (83.5mph), Sonicwake 36 V2 (83mph), Blackjack 42 (81mph), TFL Pursuit (79mph), UL-19 (75mph), Sonicwake 36 (73mph), Motley Crew (47.5mph), AquaCraft Rescue 17

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    Another nice 6s run Mark. I wouldn't think that a 4s pack would fit in the Veles tray.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinnyp View Post
    Another nice 6s run Mark. I wouldn't think that a 4s pack would fit in the Veles tray.
    Thanks. Yes the 4s pack fits but I had to remove the Velcro from the bottom of it that I had on it for my other boats. but will fit perfect. Here is the video of my run today. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRy7RiLCd70

    Last edited by MADRCER; 06-23-2018 at 11:45 AM.
    TFL Zonda (124mph), Miss Geico Zelos 36 (108mph), Veles 29 (91mph), Zelos Twin 36 (90mph), Miss Geico 29v3 (83.5mph), Sonicwake 36 V2 (83mph), Blackjack 42 (81mph), TFL Pursuit (79mph), UL-19 (75mph), Sonicwake 36 (73mph), Motley Crew (47.5mph), AquaCraft Rescue 17

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    I just watched your video. I noticed something very unusual. I had flatter water than you did today. Must have been a shift in Earths gravity.

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    I just ran my 4s comparison run today of my Revo 435 series vs my 2x2s SMC's. Water was glass and no wind, perfect conditions for 4s or 6s.....Well the 2x2s 5200mAh SMC packs win in the shootout 56.3mph/57mph vs 54.2/54mph for the Revo. Below is the video of the Revo test scroll up in this thread for the SMC run. When the boat was taking off and trying to get on plane it looked like it had Hydraulics and "three wheeling" on water...lol! But when it got on plane it handled very well with the single 4s Revo "house brick" on the left side and offsetting the torque twist nicely... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MSV2-_3ZKE

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    TFL Zonda (124mph), Miss Geico Zelos 36 (108mph), Veles 29 (91mph), Zelos Twin 36 (90mph), Miss Geico 29v3 (83.5mph), Sonicwake 36 V2 (83mph), Blackjack 42 (81mph), TFL Pursuit (79mph), UL-19 (75mph), Sonicwake 36 (73mph), Motley Crew (47.5mph), AquaCraft Rescue 17

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    ...and some question it's ability to turn.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BOjJXq9rwk


    veles 52mph.jpg

    Last edited by MADRCER; 06-23-2018 at 11:50 AM.
    TFL Zonda (124mph), Miss Geico Zelos 36 (108mph), Veles 29 (91mph), Zelos Twin 36 (90mph), Miss Geico 29v3 (83.5mph), Sonicwake 36 V2 (83mph), Blackjack 42 (81mph), TFL Pursuit (79mph), UL-19 (75mph), Sonicwake 36 (73mph), Motley Crew (47.5mph), AquaCraft Rescue 17

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    You are lucky that thing turned as well as it did. Came real close to that pier on your first turn. I feel mine turns well also. Hooked a few hard turns here and there.
    Last edited by vinnyp; 11-14-2017 at 10:05 PM.

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    Yea, yours looked pretty sporty as well....
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    TFL Zonda (124mph), Miss Geico Zelos 36 (108mph), Veles 29 (91mph), Zelos Twin 36 (90mph), Miss Geico 29v3 (83.5mph), Sonicwake 36 V2 (83mph), Blackjack 42 (81mph), TFL Pursuit (79mph), UL-19 (75mph), Sonicwake 36 (73mph), Motley Crew (47.5mph), AquaCraft Rescue 17

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    Yeah... I think I have to move the packs around some to go any faster. Considering how this boat started out, its come a long way.

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    Attachment 155239
    First time post here. Not sure if I did it right. Stock Veles with DasBoata ABC 1716. Batteries where SMC 7200 90C. The bottom has been blue printed with graphite coat. So pumped to be b

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    Sorry guys had to have the IT (kids) department help out!Veles 29 stock ABC 1716.jpgbottom.jpgside.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berdeman View Post
    Sorry guys had to have the IT (kids) department help out!Veles 29 stock ABC 1716.jpgbottom.jpgside.jpg
    Berdeman added. Awesome Job!
    TFL Zonda (124mph), Miss Geico Zelos 36 (108mph), Veles 29 (91mph), Zelos Twin 36 (90mph), Miss Geico 29v3 (83.5mph), Sonicwake 36 V2 (83mph), Blackjack 42 (81mph), TFL Pursuit (79mph), UL-19 (75mph), Sonicwake 36 (73mph), Motley Crew (47.5mph), AquaCraft Rescue 17

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    Wanted to post my 3831 equipped MGV3 with a Buaas 1814 on 4S (Revos). 53.2 mph.
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    Great info flattrack and Awesome job!! I created a 4s section in the "other section" of this thread. This is good info that we can all put to use.
    Last edited by MADRCER; 12-10-2017 at 12:47 AM.
    TFL Zonda (124mph), Miss Geico Zelos 36 (108mph), Veles 29 (91mph), Zelos Twin 36 (90mph), Miss Geico 29v3 (83.5mph), Sonicwake 36 V2 (83mph), Blackjack 42 (81mph), TFL Pursuit (79mph), UL-19 (75mph), Sonicwake 36 (73mph), Motley Crew (47.5mph), AquaCraft Rescue 17

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    I ran the Veles today and got 55.4 mph with my 1815 on 4s. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BAQNjM98sA

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    TFL Zonda (124mph), Miss Geico Zelos 36 (108mph), Veles 29 (91mph), Zelos Twin 36 (90mph), Miss Geico 29v3 (83.5mph), Sonicwake 36 V2 (83mph), Blackjack 42 (81mph), TFL Pursuit (79mph), UL-19 (75mph), Sonicwake 36 (73mph), Motley Crew (47.5mph), AquaCraft Rescue 17

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