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    Default My Miss Geico 29 v3 from 52mph to 83.5mph

    I installed the soon to be released Pro Boat Veles 29 motor and prop on my MG 29 v3 today and I couldn't resist the urge to go try her out, Even though it was pretty windy at the lake and the water wasn't the greatest for a first run and speed test, but I gave it a go anyways. I didn't ever really get it stretched out because I didn't want to have a rescue but it happened anyways. LOL...More test to come soon!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdzS3bqdi8A


    Last edited by MADRCER; 08-24-2018 at 07:51 PM.
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    That motor is available as a spare part already? I was thinking about running a set in my Zelos.
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    Yes. I got it from AMAIN. It has a lot more balls than the 3910 motor does. It appears to be made by another manufacturer other than the old 2000kv also because it has holes in the bottom plate vs the old one being solid. The part number is DYN3831.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MADRCER View Post
    Yes. I got it from AMAIN. It has a lot more balls than the 3910 motor does. It appears to be made by another manufacturer other than the old 2000kv also because it has holes in the bottom plate vs the old one being solid. The part number is DYN3831.
    Yeah... buggers had it for $69.99 then just recently bumped it to $79.99. All good.
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    Updated running video 65.7mph.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8XZveypj2E

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    Care to tell us a little more? what were the temps like in comparison to the stock PB prop, any other mods to strut position?

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    I'll have to check the strut height since field adjustments were made.The temps were actually down a little from my last test with the stock Pro Boat Veles prop. I didn't have my temp gun ready immediately but I got it about 1 min after I stopped the video and the ESC was 119 and the motor was 130 with the ABC, and they were 135 motor and 119 ESC with the Pro Boat 1716. I am well pleased with these temps versus the temps with the old 3660 2000kv motor.
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    great stuff thank you.

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    Is that 4s or 6s?
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    I think heat soak is a consideration on the temp readings. I'm getting about those readings after coming in, but my data logger shows about 10 degrees cooler while running. I'm getting the biggest heat soak off the motor, which makes sense, it's the biggest mass. Temps start to go up quick once water cooling shuts down...

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    Here is a little better video of it doing 65+mph and glued to the water.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUDpuWoiFD8

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    how fast did it go on the proboat prop?
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    Set up like it is now with this set up I'm sure it would do at least 60mph, but on the original setup I got like 54mph with weaker batteries than the ones I tried this time and the boat was too wet on my first few runs on the factory prop. The factory prop is basically a SS 1715.
    Last edited by MADRCER; 06-17-2018 at 01:52 PM.
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    "Miss Veles" Updated speed results. (72mph).
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhJcRQFzy6c

    Last edited by MADRCER; 06-16-2018 at 10:47 PM.
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    People... Just for the record... the Veles 29 and the MG/BJ/Mystic hulls have NOTHING IN COMMON. The Veles is a complete, blank-page, start-with-a-new-pencil design. It is NOT a modified, tweaked, or otherwise V3 version of the MG...

    Just Sayin'...

    That said.. have fun! :)
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    Cool

    Darin makes a good point, it may be confusing to newer members who see the name "Miss Veles" applied to a Miss Geico hull. I know the OP meant no harm, but his boat is not a "Miss Veles" and calling it such might be considered a disservice to the manufacturer. It could more correctly be called a Veles-powered Miss Geico.

    Regardless, that new motor rocks and the OP has done well with it. Can't wait to see how the "real" Veles 29 does.....


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    If you want to change it feel free to do so. I don't think I have that option to edit the thread title.
    TFL Zonda (124mph), Miss Geico Zelos 36 (108mph), Veles 29 (91mph), Zelos Twin 36 (90mph), Miss Geico 29v3 (83.5mph), Sonicwake 36 V2 (83mph), Blackjack 42 (81mph), TFL Pursuit (79mph), UL-19 (75mph), Sonicwake 36 (73mph), Motley Crew (47.5mph), AquaCraft Rescue 17

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    Default Miss Geico 29v3 hits 75mph w/Veles motor!!

    I'm playing it safe with the Veles until the upgraded shaft comes in so I decided to get the Misses out this afternoon after work, I loosened her up a bit and she clocked at 75.12 mph (121kmh). I had to make it short n' sweet because a huge thunderstorm popped up. One more adjustment and I believe I'll have her where she needs to be. Then I'll put a new fresh motor in her and I should pick up a little more mph. This motor has been abused on more than 15 runs and seen some pretty high temps in a couple of those test, so I know it is bound to be getting a tad weak cause she smells just a little...lol. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7W8SmhZDTak

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    Hey Mark, this may be a better place to post 4S performance than the other thread. I'm sure I'm not the only one that is wondering what she does on 4S with Veles guts. There are a few that are thinking this motor may be worth a few mph over the 3910 motor. Thanks bud.

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    Default Miss Geico v3 hits 78mph (126kmh)!

    First run of the Spring with my stock Miss Geico 29v3 with the updated Dynamite 3831 motor and she didn't do too bad. I hate when I start running at the wrong angle and have to let out early due to the bank and fisherman coming very quickly (lol). The boat has more in it and my next run I will be hoping to be closer to 80mph. Video is below.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yC8XH6b_UZg

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    Default Miss Geico hits 81mph stock w/3831

    Thread updated with my new top speed run of 81mph.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILaRY_6eWIs

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    Last edited by MADRCER; 01-17-2019 at 07:32 PM.
    TFL Zonda (124mph), Miss Geico Zelos 36 (108mph), Veles 29 (91mph), Zelos Twin 36 (90mph), Miss Geico 29v3 (83.5mph), Sonicwake 36 V2 (83mph), Blackjack 42 (81mph), TFL Pursuit (79mph), UL-19 (75mph), Sonicwake 36 (73mph), Motley Crew (47.5mph), AquaCraft Rescue 17

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    So with just the motor swap and veles prop you got 65 or 60? I’d like to get mine to 70-75 area safely .. what prop you think would be good ?

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    Default My Miss Geico 29 v3 from 52mph to 81mph

    Quote Originally Posted by kyoshosp2 View Post
    So with just the motor swap and veles prop you got 65 or 60? I’d like to get mine to 70-75 area safely .. what prop you think would be good ?
    I believe the props are listed in my videos...but I think I eventually got 60 or so with the untouched veles prop it's been so long ago and 83.5mph with the prepped abc. If you want to go 70-75mph (like most others that have contacted me) I will tell you the same. An pro prepped abc 1714, 1715, or 1716 will get you there but these props can also burn your stuff up if you don't have your boat set up right, so run them at your own risk. These props are for saw type runs only with cool down laps and very limited wot lap runs.
    Last edited by MADRCER; 01-17-2019 at 07:33 PM.
    TFL Zonda (124mph), Miss Geico Zelos 36 (108mph), Veles 29 (91mph), Zelos Twin 36 (90mph), Miss Geico 29v3 (83.5mph), Sonicwake 36 V2 (83mph), Blackjack 42 (81mph), TFL Pursuit (79mph), UL-19 (75mph), Sonicwake 36 (73mph), Motley Crew (47.5mph), AquaCraft Rescue 17

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    Thanks , yes I saw the vids . I just wasn’t sure the strain they were putting . I may stick to 65mph area lol .. since I’ll be horsing around with it lol . I seen you have a zelos 36 too , I just picked one up and about to try to get a baseline today and start wkn on it

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    Default 83.5MPH (134KMH) MISS Geico 29 v3

    STILL STOCK! NEW BEST SPEED! 83.5mph by the gps and 83.26mph (134kmh) by the logger. The boat held 5 steps of 83mph by the logger then It finally blew over. Not bad for a RTR boat on stock electronics running 6s..... Thanks for watching! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrxX...ature=youtu.be

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    Nice !!!
    I saw you had an impulse .. did you ever get that past the stock speed ? I have one and that boat seems to hop out the water A lot !! Not just the bow lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by kyoshosp2 View Post
    Nice !!!
    I saw you had an impulse .. did you ever get that past the stock speed ? I have one and that boat seems to hop out the water A lot !! Not just the bow lol
    Thanks! No I only got like 49 I think out of that boat. I sold it pretty quick. It wanted to submarine quite a bit. Here is the 81mph run that I ran right before my 83.5mph run above. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VALiwuSvlts

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    Haha so I’m not the only one that thinks that thing is better as a sub than a boat lol .
    I bought a V3 one , new moss geico , new bj29, zelos 36, revolt 30, 35” tfl outerlimits with p1drive , twin promarine and single , voracity 36, motly crew , and a few others lol .. think I seen all your videos . Are you on elite FB page ?
    Or best to reach you here .. I’m thinking about a tfl pursuit like you have . Also about to Wk on zelos . On your 86mph pass is that different motors or the 3831s

    Man you got that geico moving . I’m afraid at that speed a flip will decentigrate mine lol

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    Thank You! I'm pretty satisfied with 83.5mph out of a RTR boat with just a prop swap. Yes, PM on here I don't do "Dramabook"...LOL! Yes, it was the 3831 motors in my Zelos 36 that I ran 86mph with. I believe the video you are talking about I was testing some 1715 props and not my faster 1716 props. My best is 89.7/90mph with the 3831's in my Zelos 36.
    Last edited by MADRCER; 08-28-2018 at 10:55 PM.
    TFL Zonda (124mph), Miss Geico Zelos 36 (108mph), Veles 29 (91mph), Zelos Twin 36 (90mph), Miss Geico 29v3 (83.5mph), Sonicwake 36 V2 (83mph), Blackjack 42 (81mph), TFL Pursuit (79mph), UL-19 (75mph), Sonicwake 36 (73mph), Motley Crew (47.5mph), AquaCraft Rescue 17

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