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  • Ocean Racer
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2007
    • 502

    #16
    looks pretty cool how long do you think it will take to complete this?
    Failure is the First step to SUCCESS

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    • AndyKunz
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Sep 2008
      • 1437

      #17
      IF I can keep on it, it should be done mid-January. I won't be able to do some things right away which will delay finishing. We moved this summer and I couldn't bring along a lot of supplies like West Systems epoxy, so I have to save $$ to buy a new gallon. Same for the varnish to finish it up.

      Planking will take me a while because I can't use CA any more, so it'll probably take 2-3 weeks just for each of the two planking layers. I'm working on an airplane and a boat with Caleb, an airplane with Ian, and an airplane for a magazine article - plenty to keep busy.

      Andy
      Spektrum Development Team

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      • AndyKunz
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Sep 2008
        • 1437

        #18
        We didn't do anything on the boat last night. My wife borrowed a season of The Untouchables from the library so we all stayed up late to watch it.


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        I started this morning by cutting up the scraps from earlier steps into pieces 3/4" x 1-1/2". These will become tabs to loft the bulkheads above the building board.


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        These were then attached to the bulkheads and allowed to dry. Note that I and H are different than the others.


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        The approximate location of each bulkhead was marked on the sheers and chines. This was done to look "fuzzy" so I'd remember it was approximate. (I have a short memory :D ).
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        • AndyKunz
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Sep 2008
          • 1437

          #19

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          Next I sanded the notches for keel, chines, and sheers to fit snugly at the marked locations. A snug fit will make things easier in later steps. The sanding was done with a large nail file.


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          I don't like to cut the keel in two, so I notched it to accept the stuffing box. I chose to use a 1/8" ID tube instead of the 1/4" tube Garry recommends, but I'm using a different power system as well. This is one of those times when you need to make a choice about your own power system. Note also that I didn't extend the stuffing box below where the planking will be. This will make finishing easier. Should I decide to change the stuffing box to a larger size, the existing one can be removed with heat.

          We are finally done making kit parts! Time to start BUILDING!


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          Each bulkhead is positioned on the keel at the location marked on it back at the beginning.


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          I had to modify the tab on A so that the sheers could butt against it. The marks tell me exactly where they will be located when aligned properly.


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          Bulkhead I needs to be positioned properly too. I like to insert the chines at this time so that everything will be snugly linked together. The chines butted up snugly fore and aft as well as within the slots. Taking your time to make true parts pays off!


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          After these components are assembled (but not yet glued), make sure that they are all perpendicular to the building board AND to the keel. The snug fit will allow you to adjust things and have them stay put. After you've done each bulkhead once, go back and verify just in case something was jostled.
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          • AndyKunz
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            • Sep 2008
            • 1437

            #20

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            Glue the tabs to the building board. Align the keel on one side of the drawn center line, and move it fore/aft until the bulkheads align with their lines.


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            Then make sure your keel is still straight, and allow it to dry.

            You may have noticed that I didn't glue any of the boat parts together yet. That's so that I will be able to double check them again after the glue to the board is dried. It's much easier to straighten things if they aren't glued together. This gluing is easily accomplished with thin CA wicked into the joints. I can't use it, so I will just have to work some wood glue into the joints.

            At the same time I will glue down the chines, then sand in preparation for planking. I will also be looking for someone at work who will let me rip a bunch of 1/8" balsa into 1/4" and 1/2" strips.

            Andy
            Spektrum Development Team

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            • Doug Smock
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              • Apr 2007
              • 5272

              #21
              Looking good Andy!!
              I'm a little curious why you can't use CA anymore?

              Doug
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              • AndyKunz
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Sep 2008
                • 1437

                #22
                Allergic. If I catch a whiff, I have symptoms of a head cold for three days. I developed it making UL-1 (the real ones, not the imitations from AC) and Electric Thunder hulls.

                Andy
                Spektrum Development Team

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                • Rex R
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 992

                  #23
                  I understand that the 'foam safe' ca's cause fewer problems* for those allergic to regular ca.
                  *note that I said fewer problems, NOT zero problems.
                  Still waiting for my boat to come in.it came in

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                  • AndyKunz
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 1437

                    #24
                    Exactly. It also doesn't bond balsa as well in my experience.

                    With diluted wood glue, the water will swell the joint and the glue will, of course, glue it. Then it will be double-glued and all will be well.

                    Andy
                    Spektrum Development Team

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                    • Rex R
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 992

                      #25
                      heheh I use wood glue(white) for my wood boats. I figure if after 6 or more layers of paint it isn't sealed...I got bigger problems :-)(I do seal the inside of the boats w/ epoxy)
                      Still waiting for my boat to come in.it came in

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                      • Avanti
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 1280

                        #26
                        CA has worked great for me, but I also fillet the insides with epoxy.
                        The Manx has been sitting dormant, but I think I finally have my motivation back. I hope to see it float soon.

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                        • AndyKunz
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 1437

                          #27
                          Aliphatic resin (the type of wood glue I use) is only water soluble until dry. Then it resists water nicely. Other wood glues (PVA, like Elmers white) stay water soluble even after drying.

                          This will be sealed inside and out also.

                          The wood glue is diluted (lots of water) to cause the wood to swell, giving a mechanical bond in addition to the adhesive. It's the same idea used on wooden ships.

                          Andy
                          Spektrum Development Team

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                          • Kmot
                            Junior Member
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 16

                            #28
                            I developed the same type of allergic reation to CA fumes. Only it lasted for several days, felt like I had asthma as well as a severe cold.

                            I still use CA. But I bought a respirator. Made all the difference. Now, whenever I use anything stinky, I breathe sweet clean air instead because I have this thing on my face:

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                            • AndyKunz
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 1437

                              #29
                              Thanks for the respirator info, Tom. Being claustrophobic makes them impractical for me, but there may be another reader for whom they are an answer. Slow building is fun too!

                              OK, so I hope you all had a happy time with family, thanking the Good Lord for His blessings on our lives, our families, and our nation. With all the hubbub I didn't get to post these pictures from Wednesday, so here goes.


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                              The next step was to glue all the bulkheads to the keel and deck sheers. I then added the chine pieces and pinned them in place. A clamp holds the bow together.


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                              The pressure plate is glued and pinned in location also. Make sure it's level!


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                              This thing is starting to really look boat-like, even upside down!

                              The next step will be to sand all the bottom and side surfaces to get smooth flowing lines in preparation for planking. I will do the sanding outdoors using a 12" sanding block. We are still having nice-enough weather here (today was clear, 35, and winds 5-10) to go flying, so that's taking precedence.

                              Today I also cut a bunch of 1/8" balsa sheets into 1/4"' and 1/2" wide strips on a table saw with a friend from work. We used a 200-tooth 10" blade turning at 3500 RPM. Now THAT was a dusty operation, even with the dust collector running! (I also ordered my saw - they are $80 off at Sears thru tomorrow!)

                              We cut way more wood than was necessary to cover the boat. This will allow me to use the best pieces for each position. Remember, we want to use pieces which do not try to twist the hull. We will be using comparable pieces for opposing parts, so we may not have as much usable wood as we thought.

                              Andy
                              Spektrum Development Team

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                              • Flying Scotsman
                                Fast Electric Adict!
                                • Jun 2007
                                • 5190

                                #30
                                Way to go Andy...superb workmanship...your gut and mine look about the same. It is great to see you are back into boat building.

                                Douggie

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