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Thread: X646/3 for 29" Sprint Cat on 6s?

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    Default X646/3 for 29" Sprint Cat on 6s?

    Last year I ended up buying or horse trading for a B/S X646/3 for my 29" Sprint Cat that is a dedicated 6s boat. On paper, the pitch and diameter looked pretty good so I went ahead and grabbed it. The prop showed up and seeing it in person was a whole different story. While the prop was perfect (no complaints with the seller), it was quite a bit larger in pitch and overall blade surface than I was expecting. I normally run an M545 or X448 and the X646/3 is huge in comparison!

    Needless to say, things got cool last Fall and the dock got pulled where I normally run my boat. I never had a chance to run things to give it a try. Looking at this big honking prop is giving me concern about being too much pitch/ blade surface.

    My setup is a 1600 kv Leopard 4082 with 5.5 mm bullets used for the motor to esc, and battery to esc connections. ESC is a Sea King 180 v2. Batteries are 2x Nanotech 45c, 5000 mah, 3s packs wired in series for 6s. Normal runtime for the M545 is 2:15 with remaining cell voltage (no load) 3.75 volts on average.

    Temps are usually in the 90 degree range for the ESC, and 120's for the motor after a 2:15 run. Average summer temps for the lake is in the low 80's so I don't get much cooling effect in July/ August. Temps are better in May/ June before the water gets too warm.

    Will the X646/3 be too much prop, or will I be OK?

    As always, thanks for the input.

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    A 3-blade is generally going to put more load on your setup. Based on the OSE calculator 5000 mah and 135 second run time you are pulling about 130-135 amps with that M545. The 5.5 bullets are typically rated for 150 amp duty. While the ESC should handle the headroom of a larger prop, I am thinking a 646/3 is going to be getting really close in amp ratings, and possibly de-solder a connection. You can try it for 30 seconds or so and check temps, but I have generally heard if going to a 3-blade prop you should step down in overall diameter from the 2-blade you are running. Example, X442 2-blade, step down to X440 3-blade.
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    I figured it might be right on the edge of the systems safe limits.

    Might just sell it in the classifieds since it's never been used at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by champion221elite View Post
    Last year I ended up buying or horse trading for a B/S X646/3 for my 29" Sprint Cat that is a dedicated 6s boat. On paper, the pitch and diameter looked pretty good so I went ahead and grabbed it. The prop showed up and seeing it in person was a whole different story. While the prop was perfect (no complaints with the seller), it was quite a bit larger in pitch and overall blade surface than I was expecting. I normally run an M545 or X448 and the X646/3 is huge in comparison!

    Needless to say, things got cool last Fall and the dock got pulled where I normally run my boat. I never had a chance to run things to give it a try. Looking at this big honking prop is giving me concern about being too much pitch/ blade surface.

    My setup is a 1600 kv Leopard 4082 with 5.5 mm bullets used for the motor to esc, and battery to esc connections. ESC is a Sea King 180 v2. Batteries are 2x Nanotech 45c, 5000 mah, 3s packs wired in series for 6s. Normal runtime for the M545 is 2:15 with remaining cell voltage (no load) 3.75 volts on average.

    Temps are usually in the 90 degree range for the ESC, and 120's for the motor after a 2:15 run. Average summer temps for the lake is in the low 80's so I don't get much cooling effect in July/ August. Temps are better in May/ June before the water gets too warm.

    Will the X646/3 be too much prop, or will I be OK?

    As always, thanks for the input.
    send me the prop cover the shipping and I will reduce the diameter this will make it safer to turn

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    List for comparing the prop pitch. It can help in deciding which prop to try next.

    PROP Pitch/inches

    X437/3-- 2.072
    X438---- 2.100
    X440---- 2.198
    X440/3-- 2.198
    Y536---- 2.200
    Y537/3-- 2.279
    X442---- 2.310
    X637---- 2.368
    X445---- 2.478
    X640---- 2.512
    X447---- 2.590
    X447/3-- 2.590
    X642---- 2.640
    M545---- 2.655
    X448---- 2.660
    X450---- 2.758
    X450/3-- 2.758
    X645---- 2.832
    Y547---- 2.849
    X548---- 2.850
    X452---- 2.870
    X452/3-- 2.870
    X646---- 2.896
    X646/3-- 2.896
    X455---- 3.038
    X455/3-- 3.038
    X648---- 3.040
    X457---- 3.136
    X457/3-- 3.136
    M650---- 3.190
    X460---- 3.304
    Y557---- 3.449
    X560---- 3.540

    X427---- 1.498 0.125
    X430---- 1.652
    X431---- 1.708
    X432---- 1.764
    Y531---- 1.877
    X435---- 1.932
    X632---- 2.016
    Y534---- 2.059
    Y535---- 2.125
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    Great list. Thanks for posting that.
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    That list is very helpful. PM inbound Chris.

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