*** 2017 Atlanta Spring Nationals Now Accepting Entries ***

[HUFFRACING]

Hey Gang,

The Atlanta Model boaters are proud to host the 2017 Spring Nationals on April 22nd and 23rd, 2017.

Entries are now being accepted via http://www.rcracingevents.com

We hope to see you there!

Thanks,
Lamar

[T.S.Davis]

10th scale! Thanks Lamar! You guys are gonna dig that class.

Any talk of opening up the spec for limited? The next generation of limited is simply "spec" based on can size. 37mmx62mm. Sorta like nitro has a size limit. Every existing setup stays legal but more choices are available.

[photohoward1]

10th scale! Thanks Lamar! You guys are gonna dig that class.

Any talk of opening up the spec for limited? The next generation of limited is simply "spec" based on can size. 37mmx62mm. Sorta like nitro has a size limit. Every existing setup stays legal but more choices are available.

That would be great. I could put the race on my schedule then. Otherwise I only have 3 classes to run and 2 are Gas. How about any open classes. Mono or Hydro. P Sport or Q sport too maybe?

[Doug Smock]

Hope I'm not stepping on your toes boss!

We're working on it fellas..........we aim to please!

Howard you can run any legal IMPBA boat in the "Unlimited" class.

We have 30 classes offered now, any more and we'll have to push so hard to get done at a reasonable time nobody will have fun.

Having said that. If some of the other classes don't make we can offer more FE.

Stand by......................

[T.S.Davis]

Doug, I mentioned this in my PM.

Some of us feel that the new motor limitations are the future but we also have no interest in jamming it down your clubs throats. We want guys to see the merit in the change and not feel like they're being forced into anything.

If some compromise makes more sense and is more palatable we're all ears too. Our thinking is to expose guys to the motors over time and see how they measure up.

Not everyone in our club is convinced either BTW. Some guys have taken the stance that until they start getting beat they aren't changing jack.

[donhuff]

Hi Terry,

What is the "merit" of the change? I understand more motor options, but is that it?

[Ken Haines]

That would be great. I could put the race on my schedule then. Otherwise I only have 3 classes to run and 2 are Gas. How about any open classes. Mono or Hydro. P Sport or Q sport too maybe?

I hope that you decide to run open Mono & Hydro as usual.
Unlimited would end up mixing those 2 types and although
the hydro's are faster the holes made by the big mono's
could make things a mess.
Just my opinion, I do plan on making this event either way.

[tjcast]

Not everyone in our club is convinced either BTW. Some guys have taken the stance that until they start getting beat they aren't changing jack.

Raises Hand !!

[T.S.Davis]

Don,

A number of issues with the old limited spec.

Some will argue but since the proposal was written by Dave and proposed by me I get to soap box. Haha

Part of the equation was to make classes that you could get from the local hobby shop. Many of those are gone. AQ isn't developing anything. When the open market stops buying them they'll be gone. When they go so does the 2030.

Proboat has discontinued some of their motors that are on the list. They came out with new stuff that isn't legal so a newb has to swap out the motor to race.

New companies like TFL and Promarine have come along with boats that fit right into our class accept.....anyone that wants to race has to junk the motor that comes with it and hunt down a spec motor from a competitor.

Another advantage to these other motors is that they tend to be more forgiving. If I guess wrong and put too much prop on a 2030 I need a new 2030. If a water line plugs up I likely need a new 2030. If I overheat a TP1950 repeatedly I could damage it but one time at a 190 degrees and I'm fine. Done it.

The biggest thing with the change is planning for the future. These companies, (pick one) must, have to, and will always make discisions based on the bottom line. If not they won't be in business for long. We've already seen fluctuation in the AQ motors suppl quality. We've seen Proboat just drop motors right out from under us. If we don't start figuring out what the future is we could well find ourselves with 1 or 2 motors. Or maybe no motors in the perfect storm.

Going to a size limit makes our classes more like other fuel sources too. A nitro 67 is a 67. M spec should/could be 4s lipo with a max can size.

That's what we're trying and the justification there of.

[HUFFRACING]

Gents,

We have decided to go with the following rules for the P-Limited classes at the 2017 Spring Nats:

"P Limited Classes: Motor can size not to exceed 37mm x 62mm. Any number of poles, any KV, & any manufacturer.
No restrictions on the speed control."

Additional classes may be added as we get closer to the event date. We are currently offering 29 classes and if all those classes make we will be at capacity for a 2-day event. Early entry patterns suggest we may be able to drop a few of the initial offerings and add additional classes closer to race day.

Thanks for the support!

Lamar

[Doug Smock]

Thanks Lamar!

[Doug Smock]

Mike Pags has entered. Should I warn the club?

[photohoward1]

Doug are you allowing the TP Motor 3630 for the race? I did sign up.


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[donhuff]

Yes Howard they will be legal for this race. See the post Lamar Huff made, we are saying any motor 37mmx62mm or smaller will be legal.

My TP 3630 is 36x57.

[photohoward1]

Great


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[Doug Smock]

Dang Mike you got in Open Offshore and closed the door on the class. Here is our course, entrance buoy on the back straight not shown. You'll love it!

[HUFFRACING]

The door has been opened back up on the OFFSHORE class!

Where are all these 1/10 Scale electrics I was promised?

Thanks,
Lamar

[Todd Fleury]

I am working on the logistics. Trying to find a way to fly down there and get my 1/10 ready

[T.S.Davis]

I haven't registered Tyler and I yet. Bare with us Lamar. I'll let the guys know too.

[HUFFRACING]

I'm just rattling cages Terry!

Later,
Lamar

[Todd Fleury]

I thought you guys ran P Sport at this event.

[Doug Smock]

I thought you guys ran P Sport at this event.

We haven't in the past. BUT, P Sport is on the short list if the nitro entries are as they have been the last few years. Ty said you guys could field the whole class, is that right? We don't have any P Sports in the AMB at this time.
There is some interest in Q mono too.

We'll know in the next few weeks if the nitro racers are going to enter.


Stand by.............

[Todd Fleury]

Yeah, we probably have enough for two heats. Just thought I would ask.

[Ken Haines]

I hope that you decide to run open Mono & Hydro as usual.
Unlimited would end up mixing those 2 types and although
the hydro's are faster the holes made by the big mono's
could make things a mess.
Just my opinion, I do plan on making this event either way.

Crickets ??

[Doug Smock]

Crickets ??

No crickets. We have to hold off a bit and see what the nitro entries look like.

We don't want to end up having to push so hard nobody has fun.
We have run 94 (IIRC) heats in a day before but that's starting the clock when the boat hits the dock ready or not. I was the CD, it sucked!

BTW We ran unlimited one year (that I remember) and I won it with the T mono. A 80+ mph twin doesn't mean jack if you can't keep it on the pins.

D.

[HUFFRACING]

Guys,

Please bear with us. Enter what is available now and if/when we add additional classes you can go back and register for those classes at a later date. We eliminated the additional 1st boat fee this year specifically for this purpose. That way if/when we add the additional classes you don't get hit with the first boat fee twice.

This far out we can't start dropping classes or people will have a hissy fit (TRUST me... Been there... Done that...). We want to keep the heat count manageable for a two day event, so we are being careful not to overextend ourselves by offering too many classes out of the gate. As long as we keep the heat count where we need it to be we are VERY OPEN to adding any class where we have assurances we can hit the 5 boat requirement for trophies to be awarded.

Thanks,
Lamar

[T.S.Davis]

Tyler and I will sit down with your list and figure it out this evening and get registered. If P sport becomes available I'm in.

[Ken Haines]

Guys,

Please bear with us. Enter what is available now and if/when we add additional classes you can go back and register for those classes at a later date. We eliminated the additional 1st boat fee this year specifically for this purpose. That way if/when we add the additional classes you don't get hit with the first boat fee twice.

This far out we can't start dropping classes or people will have a hissy fit (TRUST me... Been there... Done that...). We want to keep the heat count manageable for a two day event, so we are being careful not to overextend ourselves by offering too many classes out of the gate. As long as we keep the heat count where we need it to be we are VERY OPEN to adding any class where we have assurances we can hit the 5 boat requirement for trophies to be awarded.

Thanks,
Lamar

No Problem Lamar.....
I have been a big fan of the open Mono and Open Hydro classes in your club,
and had mentioned that to Mike Paganeli and Tom Baffer at the Arizona race.
I actually forgot that the class was not on this particular slate yet.
Thanks for the consideration.....really hoping to get my SpeedCraft back and
be able to get a rematch against Jessie Lee and the gang

[HUFFRACING]

Thanks for working with us guys. Open Mono, Open Hydro, and P Sport are on the short list of additional classes we hope to offer.

We aim to please gentlemen!

We want this to be a well attended FUN event for all!

Thanks,
Lamar

[T.S.Davis]

45 racers already! I signed up for a class I don't have a boat ready for. That always goes well. haha Hurry up Pete! I got stuff ta build. The class I wanted was full so I picked another.

Guys, for those of you unfamiliar with this kind of race I'd like to share a little.

These guy have their act together. It's not a stretch for them to kill 80 heats in a day. That's about 6.5 minutes a heat including retrieve if we hit the water at 8 and get off the water at 5. I suspect it will be more like 9 to 4 which puts us down in the 5.25 minute range. They can do it without killing themselves. Seen it. Done it. Really appreciate the effort it takes to pull it off. It's these kind of logistics I'm always watching. Much respect ladies and gentlemen.

What the pace means to us is that we have to be on our game. They can't wait for us. Last year if I was in heat 50 and my pit man was in 51..............we brought both boats to the hot pit taped and ready. Sometimes we waited and taped them up in the hot pit. That works well too. If there is no retrieve there is no time to go back to the pit and work on the next boat. You need to be ready right now.

It's totally manageable. Totally doable. Paying attention is key. It's just a different mind set. Once you get used to this kind of deal the FE only races really become a breeze.