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    Default Seaking 180 amp

    Note: merged threads.

    Hi guys...
    We tested 6 new seaking 180 and all of them shut off at full throttle on 6 cells and 4082 1600kv motors. The big issue is that we instaled the older one back and had no problems.

    It apears the new overload breaker is to sensitive. Also notice that once shutoff was activate the first time ......it kept going off sooner every next time.

    If you have experience similar results please say so.

    Several dealers did not believe our claims.
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    It is pretty common among the V3 esc's that they have sensative low voltage cutoff over the V2

    Few questions:
    What batteries are you using?
    What is your LVC set at in the esc?
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    cocos710 go to [ Hobby Wing (Seaking) ESC's Q & A] Look up [Electronics Talk] then [ESC] and you find other complaints.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tamelesstgr View Post
    It is pretty common among the V3 esc's that they have sensative low voltage cutoff over the V2

    Few questions:
    What batteries are you using?
    What is your LVC set at in the esc?
    We tried all programing changes possible with the new 180 and had no luck.
    Even on 4 cells it would not hold a x448 with out shutting off.

    Batteries were very good 100C on 4s and 6s.

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    We tried all programing changes possible with the new 180 and had no luck.
    Even on 4 cells it would not hold a x448 with out shutting off.

    Batteries were very good 100C on 4s and 6s.

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    Did you consult the manufacturer?
    Or in HOBBYWING North America?
    There are already 3 or 4 users with the same problem, right?

    https://www.hobbywingdirect.com/coll...king-v3-manual
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    Have you tried running them with the lv cutout switched off?
    I always switch it off in mine for my race boats.

    Also. What is the answer to the question of what setting you have the lvc set at?

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    Hey fellas,

    This seems to be wide spread. A good number of guys have tried everything to resolve this. Too bad too as these have been good controls up until now. I have one for a build I'm doing that I will test this weekend.

    I'm going to merge this thread with the other one(s)

    It would be great if we could get a manufacturer representative to come weigh in on this.
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    "Low Voltage Cutoff Protection:

    When the battery voltage falls below the preset cutoff threshold for over 1 second, the ESC will cut off the output and stop working, then the Red LED blinks slowly. The controller can be reoperated at the halved power after the throttle returns to zero.

    Overheat Protection:

    when the ESC temperature goes above the factory preset value, the ESC will cut off the output and stop running, then the Green LED flashes slowly. The controller can be reoperated at the halved power after the throttle returns to zero, the output will resume if the temperature decreases below 80°C.

    Throttle Signal Loss Protection:

    When the receiver detects no throttle signal (from the transmitter) for over 0.1 second, the ESC will cut off the output. The controller will not resume running until the signal is detected again. Hereby, we suggest users setting the no signal protection (or F/S protection value) on the TH channel (on the transmitter) to “Output off” or “Neutral position”."

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    Moved from another thread.
    Quote Originally Posted by Giezel View Post
    Hello, someone who can help me has had problems with the Esc seaking 180 the problem we are having is that they are knocking down you put the boat to run and when you are going to accelerate to the maximum it stops working you remove the trigger and accelerate again and when you go to Max is the same It is not temperature It is not a signal It is not voltage and it is not programmed to be programmed of all the ways and they are finished to buy taken out of the box I have a friend already it takes 5 with the same problem and the other takes 3 with the Same problem to me I spend as recent as yesterday someone knows that is happening thanks



    Moved this thread to " Hobby Wing (Seaking) ESC's Q & A forum"
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    Quote Originally Posted by golfito View Post
    Did you consult the manufacturer?
    Or in HOBBYWING North America?
    There are already 3 or 4 users with the same problem, right?

    https://www.hobbywingdirect.com/coll...king-v3-manual
    A couple of us have contacted Charlie at Hobby Wing. I did send a few emails back and forth to him. Nothing he said seem to help me out. He never offered for me to send any of them in to be checked out either.

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    I just sent ANOTHER email to Charlie trying to explan our situation, and I included a link to this thread.

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    Dang, that was quick!

    Just heard back from Charlie. They are aware of the problem and are working on a fix. Here is part of the email he sent me.

    "
    Hi Don,

    Good news is, we have been working on this exact topic. Bad news is that I am un clear as to exactly "when" and "how" we're going to initiate the fix for current owners and users. I need a bit more time, as we're still "confirming" the fix is working in the field, but, as soon as the testers report back, we'll be working on getting updated units exchanged for customers.
    "

    For anyone having the issue, I suggest that you email Charlie and get you process started charlie@hobbywing.com B

    edit... They call the problem "Early Shut Down issues". When communicating with them, I would use this term to describe your problem. Might save you some time trying to explain things!

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    Finaly ....That is great News!!!

    Thank you so much for the info!!!

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    Thanks for the merged thread and update. I have the Turnigy T180 and fortunately have not experienced any issues with it.
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    I'm curious. Does your turnigy have six (6) caps on the power leads?

    only the newest batch of seakings hav 6, and they are the only ones that give the problem.

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    My turnigy version has 3 caps on the main body and then 4 caps on the power leads.
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    yeah, that's not the bad one. They only have two little caps on the main body.

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    Apologies, the V3 that I have does have 2 smaller caps. I also have a V2 which has 3 larger caps.

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    Ah ha, The top pic is the correct one, but on the power leads, red and black, are there 2 or 6 caps?

    If just two your good, if 6, then you got a problem. But if you have run it, you would know this.

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    I have 4 caps on my power leads, I'll try and get a pic later
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tamelesstgr View Post
    Apologies, the V3 that I have does have 2 smaller caps. I also have a V2 which has 3 larger caps.

    20160816_222827.jpg

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    The bottom picture is a V2 - They are OK

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    I got it! The fix for the problems would simply be to go back to the V2 version that worked well. I have two that get a lot of use and have even been dunked but still keep going. The V3 version isn't as good so dump it and remake V2's. That's some consumer feedback for Hobbywing.
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    Here is the full picture of the V3

    The caps are under the shrink on the power wires.
    It also has a switch wired to the ESC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donhuff View Post
    Dang, that was quick!

    Just heard back from Charlie. They are aware of the problem and are working on a fix. Here is part of the email he sent me.

    "
    Hi Don,

    Good news is, we have been working on this exact topic. Bad news is that I am un clear as to exactly "when" and "how" we're going to initiate the fix for current owners and users. I need a bit more time, as we're still "confirming" the fix is working in the field, but, as soon as the testers report back, we'll be working on getting updated units exchanged for customers.
    "

    For anyone having the issue, I suggest that you email Charlie and get you process started charlie@hobbywing.com B

    edit... They call the problem "Early Shut Down issues". When communicating with them, I would use this term to describe your problem. Might save you some time trying to explain things!
    Great news. Guys Steven is on this as well.

    Thank you Charlie & Co!
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    Good thing they're dealing with the problem.
    Is there anything that identifies which batch of fa is defective?

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    Yes, they have SIX caps on the power leads.

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    Hobbywing answered me yesterday and told me to start a couple of RMA's.

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    Hi...Were can we find the correct RMA Form?

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    What I did was send Charlie [charlie@hobbywing.com] an email about the Seaking 180 v3 esc early shut down issue and Hobbywing sent me the info. and directed me in what to do.

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