Zelos Fast List!!

[dasboata]

IMHO is not so "stock" use 4.35v/cell...

not stock ? everyone has a choice to put whatever batteries they want in the boat ,, the boat don't come with batteries and the stock boat had 420 5000 in it ?

[banixj]

ESC spec is 4.2v/cell so no stock
higher voltage = higher power so it's a mod
but i don't want to fight... final result is astonishing and i'd like to try 4.35V/cell too!!!!

[MADRCER]

not stock ? everyone has a choice to put whatever batteries they want in the boat ,, the boat don't come with batteries and the stock boat had 420 5000 in it ?

I agree Chris. The boat calls for 6s to each esc and that's what I put to it... 6s with (2) 3s lipos capable of safely being charged to 4.35 volt per cell.

ESC spec is 4.2v/cell so no stock
higher voltage = higher power so it's a mod
but i don't want to fight... final result is astonishing and i'd like to try 4.35V/cell too!!!!

"Originally Posted by fweasel

MADRCER, are you charging your Revo 435 LiHV packs to 4.35V?

Cool! Carbon fiber inlay's, OSE flex cables, wire drives, sharpened rudders, polished flex shafts, and aftermarket props all are mods as well if you look at it that way. Keagan can put me back down to my previous best which was 77.05 mph (which isn't a bad run at all) if it's a problem with my boat not meeting the specs to be considered a "stock electronics boat". That number has stood for a few months without anyone coming close to it and that run was on (4)-3s lipos charged to 4.2v per cell (the maximum for the 3s Gens Ace 5500mAh). The real eyebrow raising question is going to come up when me or someone puts the new Zelos twin 3831 motors (which I already have waiting to be installed in mine) and possibly set a blistering pace....Will that be a considered a modified run? or will one have to buy a new boat just so it comes out of the box with the new 3831 motors installed from the factory like they are shipping now and make a run with that boat instead of the boat I currently run? IMHO I would also propose that runs that beat someone's speed for the top spot must be required to show video proof with the GPS cleared and in the boat before and after the run or you must have the gps with the logger software that show where the boat was running in the lake with the speed stamped on the map in order to be 100% qualified for a top spot trophy. Please let me know everyone's thoughts.

[CraigP]

Are these the LipoGraphene packs? Do you feel the voltage is holding up like a normal pack? I've been waiting for some actual field experience, you know, that they don't turn into flares!

[CraigP]

Usually we think of puffed batteries has a rather permenant change. So these batteries puffed, then returned to normal size? If you see that again, could you grab some pics and post? These batts are going to be a learning process for us all. With the volt gain, if they're robust, I'm sure they will dominate in competition. Thanks!

[vinnyp]

[QUOTE=MADRCER;698507 Cool! Carbon fiber inlay's, OSE flex cables, wire drives, sharpened rudders, polished flex shafts, and aftermarket props all are mods as well if you look at it that way. Keagan can put me back down to my previous best which was 77.05 mph (which isn't a bad run at all) if it's a problem with my boat not meeting the specs to be considered a "stock electronics boat". That number has stood for a few months without anyone coming close to it and that run was on (4)-3s lipos charged to 4.2v per cell (the maximum for the 3s Gens Ace 5500mAh). The real eyebrow raising question is going to come up when me or someone puts the new Zelos twin 3831 motors (which I already have waiting to be installed) in mine and possibly set a blistering pace....Will that be a considered a modified run? or will one have to buy a new boat just so it comes out of the box with the new 3831 motors installed from the factory like they are shipping now and make a run with that boat instead of the boat I currently run? IMHO I would also propose that runs that beat someone's speed for the top spot must be required to show video proof with the GPS cleared and in the boat before and after the run or you must have the gps with the logger software that show where the boat was running in the lake with the speed stamped on the map in order to be 100% qualified for a top spot trophy. Please let me know everyone's thoughts.[/QUOTE]

I am with you on this one. Compared to you guys I am only an amateur. It would take me a looong time to be able to run those speed numbers, if at all. We all screw around with our boats, that's what its all about. As for me, after I install my new 3930's, I will be on the bottom of Keagans modified list.

[Erroneous]

I can vouch for the gopacks over the old silver labels. The IRs are lower, run slightly cooler and no minor puff on hard runs. Ive slammed these things in my 1/8 monster buggy (TP4050 2100kv, quickrun150 and geared for 90mph) in 108* Sacramento heat and taken them down to 3.2v/cell doing it. I just had to know before lining up 4 packs in a boat.... On the flip side I feel everone is looking for a "bulletproof"LIPO... Not possible... These things dump a ton of power in a short time, abuse this and pay......... To add, I only charge them to 4.275 at 1c...

[Keagan-Z06]

ESC timing for me is not considered a mod. So the structure of the list remains the same, it would be very hard at this point to go back and find what everyone ran. Batteries are a free for all option IMO. As long as the motors and ESC remain the same, it's considered stock.

[Keagan-Z06]

Ok, so who has those 1715's in stock?

[MADRCER]

Either everyone is hoarding them up or they aren't available. I may have some info that could help. If you haven't found any and are still looking PM me.

[vinnyp]

Ok, so who has those 1715's in stock?

Keagan,
I got my 1814's from these guys. Not exactly sure which you are looking for, but they have this 1715 but only left handed.
https://www.modellbaucenterlorenz.de...-45-2-cll.html

[dasboata]

Keagan,
I got my 1814's from these guys. Not exactly sure which you are looking for, but they have this 1715 but only left handed.
https://www.modellbaucenterlorenz.de...-45-2-cll.html

Are those ABC brand ???

[vinnyp]

Are those ABC brand ???

Yes they are ABC's..

[MADRCER]

I had to give the Z a little loving today and I had a couple of pretty good test runs with my new 1716 props from Chris (Dasboata). On this run the motor mount came loose and caused the flex to bind up and rub with the tight Teflon liner and caused the ESC to go into thermal shutdown, so I had to limp back to the shore with only full power to one motor. Everything appears ok except the flex. The top recorded speed on this run was 80.77mph (130kmh). Also a BIG THANKS to my "Propsmith" (Chris) again for another AWESOME set of blades! Keagan can you update me? Below are the results from my best run today.

Member MADRCER
MPH: 80.77mph (130kmh)
Prop: ABC 1716-17-45 Dasboata
ESC: Stock with timing 7.5
Motor: Stock
Batteries: 4x3s Gens Ace 5500mAh 45c (11.1v)

80.77mph zelps 8-25-17.jpg 80.77mph zelps 8-25-17.JPG 2.jpg 80mph record run zelos.jpg 80mph pic in boat.JPG

[REDLINE1]

I had to give the Z a little loving today and I had a couple of pretty good test runs with my new 1716 props from Chris (Dasboata). On this run the motor mount came loose and caused the flex to bind up and rub with the tight Teflon liner and caused the ESC to go into thermal shutdown, so I had to limp back to the shore with only full power to one motor. Everything appears ok except the flex. The top recorded speed on this run was 80.77mph (130kmh). Also a BIG THANKS to my "Propsmith" (Chris) again for another AWESOME set of blades! Keagan can you update me? Below are the results from my best run today.

Member MADRCER
MPH: 80.77mph (130kmh)
Prop: ABC 1716-17-45 Dasboata
ESC: Stock with timing 7.5
Motor: Stock
Batteries: 4x3s Gens Ace 5500mAh 45c (11.1v)

80.77mph zelps 8-25-17.jpg 80.77mph zelps 8-25-17.JPG 2.jpg 80mph record run zelos.jpg

What are yr plans for the repair. Can u re epoxy the mount?

[Keagan-Z06]

MADRCER updated! Nice!

[vinnyp]

Great run Mark..

[MADRCER]

Great run Mark..

Thanks VP!

What are yr plans for the repair. Can u re epoxy the mount?

REDLINE I should have said the screws came loose in the motor mount and caused it to shift on the previous run, I didn't mean the motor mount came loose from the boat. I am going to have to add epoxy around the stuffing tube where it ends in the black plastic motor mount because it has some melting from the heat from the flex but it will be fine.

[dasboata]

I had to give the Z a little loving today and I had a couple of pretty good test runs with my new 1716 props from Chris (Dasboata). On this run the motor mount came loose and caused the flex to bind up and rub with the tight Teflon liner and caused the ESC to go into thermal shutdown, so I had to limp back to the shore with only full power to one motor. Everything appears ok except the flex. The top recorded speed on this run was 80.77mph (130kmh). Also a BIG THANKS to my "Propsmith" (Chris) again for another AWESOME set of blades! Keagan can you update me? Below are the results from my best run today.

Member MADRCER
MPH: 80.77mph (130kmh)
Prop: ABC 1716-17-45 Dasboata
ESC: Stock with timing 7.5
Motor: Stock
Batteries: 4x3s Gens Ace 5500mAh 45c (11.1v)

80.77mph zelps 8-25-17.jpg 80.77mph zelps 8-25-17.JPG 2.jpg 80mph record run zelos.jpg 80mph pic in boat.JPG

Thank you Mark for the mention great job,,, with the plastic stuffing mount I clean it up with a exacto knife and cut a 1/2 moon circle in a Popsicle stick and squeezed/pushed JB weld into the voids then covered it with more JB weld,, seem like the stock stuffing boxes heat up like that after a certain speed

[MADRCER]

Chris, No problem and Thanks! I will definately be using the method you mentioned on the stuffing box mount.

[MADRCER]

Here is the video of my Top speed run of 88.23mph (142kmh) with the NEW Dynamite 3831 Zelos twin motors. This was my first run with the new motors and I flipped on my second pass coming back into a slight wind at around 70mph. I have attached photos of the GPS logger software details at the end of the video and you can see that I hit my top speed of 88.23mph (142kmh) about ¾ the way on my first pass so this proves this boats capabilities with the new motors. Also, I believe from slowing down and stopping so quickly at the end of my first pass all the “water drag force” forced my left drive to move up significantly out of adjustment and helped cause the flip on the way back. My backup run after the flip (on struts out of adjustment on the same battery charge) was 85.12mph (137kmh). The highest temps I saw over my first test which was two or three passes each were 104° on the ESC & 106° on the motors (the ambient temp was around 68°). Last but least thanks to Chris Hoffmann (Dasboata) for the Awesome set of ABC 1716’s props!

Member MADRCER
MPH: 88.23 mph (142kmh)
Prop: ABC 1716-17-45 Dasboata
ESC: Stock with timing 7.5
Motor: Stock (3831's)
Batteries: 4x3s Gens Ace 5500mAh 45c (11.1v)

88mph 142kmh.jpg88mph logger.jpg88mph zelos 2.jpg

[Keagan-Z06]

Thanks MADRCER, for making this a bit more complicated! Lol. Nice run man, I can't wait to get back in the waters.

[banixj]

Really huge improvement thanks to Jeff wires !!! Same setup + Jeff wires = +9kmh = +5.6mph
121kmh.jpg

Now motors reach the top rpm!!! ...and no water inside...

Member: BanixJ
MPH: 75.20
Prop: TFL CNC 4314
ESC: Stock with timing 7.5
Motors: Keda Saker SKF-3668 4 poles 2160kv 1650W
Batteries: 2x Zippy Compact 3300mAh 6s 60C
Mods: JEFF wire shafts

Air temp: 22°C 72°F
Water temp: 17°C 63°F
ESC temps: 55°C 131°F
Keda motors temp: 80°C 176°F
LiPo temps: 56°C 133°F

[vinnyp]

banixj,
Nice run and speed increase.

[banixj]

Thank u so much dear!

[Keagan-Z06]

Banixj updated. Nice job man!

[MADRCER]

Well I figured since no one has posted here in a while I would give this thread a bump! I ran Ole yeller again today and thought that I might have a chance to match or hopefully beat my personal best of 88mph. Finally I got to the lake and the way the wind was blowing I would have been running into it if I ran the way I like to run on my fast passes, so I started not to take a chance, but I ran the boat anyways. My first WOT pass I was running away from the wind and towards the bank and it was a good one but I had to let out earlier than I wanted to because it was difficult to judge the where the boat would end up coming to a stop at running 85+mph and I didn't want to land it on the bank lol. After the first pass I drove the boat back very carefully into the wind for a second pass going as far as I could see the boat for another pass because now I had a good idea where my "safe zone" was at and where I would need to let out of the throttle at and as I was trying to turn the boat around (looking into the afternoon sun) the boat was about 800 feet away in a windy semi choppy area of the lake and.... I rolled it trying to get it turned around to get orientated with it, only doing about 5mph in the choppy area of the lake! Simply side rolled it...Wth.... Then I got out the rescue boat and by then the wind had taken the boat out pretty far on the other side of the lake and when I got it back to the Bank the GPS showed 84mph and the Dynamite Logger had clocked it at 86mph. Oh well there's always next time. Big Thanks to Chris on the props again! Keagan no need to update me on this run we'll see how the next one goes....

86mph Zelos twin 10-16-17.jpg

[vinnyp]

Hey Mark ,
Welcome to my world of WIND!!

[Keagan-Z06]

Well I figured since no one has posted here in a while I would give this thread a bump! I ran Ole yeller again today and thought that I might have a chance to match or hopefully beat my personal best of 88mph. Finally I got to the lake and the way the wind was blowing I would have been running into it if I ran the way I like to run on my fast passes, so I started not to take a chance, but I ran the boat anyways. My first WOT pass I was running away from the wind and towards the bank and it was a good one but I had to let out earlier than I wanted to because it was difficult to judge the where the boat would end up coming to a stop at running 85+mph and I didn't want to land it on the bank lol. After the first pass I drove the boat back very carefully into the wind for a second pass going as far as I could see the boat for another pass because now I had a good idea where my "safe zone" was at and where I would need to let out of the throttle at and as I was trying to turn the boat around (looking into the afternoon sun) the boat was about 800 feet away in a windy semi choppy area of the lake and.... I rolled it trying to get it turned around to get orientated with it, only doing about 5mph in the choppy area of the lake! Simply side rolled it...Wth.... Then I got out the rescue boat and by then the wind had taken the boat out pretty far on the other side of the lake and when I got it back to the Bank the GPS showed 84mph and the Dynamite Logger had clocked it at 86mph. Oh well there's always next time. Big Thanks to Chris on the props again! Keagan no need to update me on this run we'll see how the next one goes....

86mph Zelos twin 10-16-17.jpg

Gotta hate those chops. It happened to me twice already, a small slow turn and one nice wave to flip you over.

[stratus]

Hello to all!I am not posting lately but always coming and see the news here and in mod thread.First of all i want to say Gz to people achieving this greats speeds.The least i can say is impressive!!Today i finally had my first run after a couple of months with my new props (abc 1814) which arrived a couple weeks ago and i balanced and sharped them my self.My speed today was at 72mph which i am really happy because this is just the second set of props i try by myself and just took the boat threw the batteries in and go,even my struts were from summer time at 3mm.From next week will start searching the sweat spot on the batteries placement and see what more i can squeeze out of it (i believe there is more,today was like i really missed it and just wanted to have my fun with it).Keagan when ever you have the chance please update me :) Forgot to mention that my temps was not more then 50°C on both motors and around 45°C on esc around 120°F i believe

Member: Stratus
MPH: 72
Prop: ABC 1814
ESC: Stock
Motor: Stock
Batteries: Turnigy Graphenes 65C 6000 x(4)