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As I mentioned at the beginning of the thread, I'm not trying to start any argument. Our club knows first had just how much work and money goes into putting on a large event like nationals. Vegas seems like a great place for the venue, kinda middle of the country. It will be sad that they can not possibly offer every class, but that would take weeks for all fuel types. We are scheduling a full week on the lake just for FE classes, and we will run any class we get enough boats for. I am just saying that if this is the last FE exclusive National event, ya might want to participate. End of an era type thing. I hope that all fuel types continue to race for many years to come. We have some great sponsors that I would also like to see be successful.
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The only thing that has to be done is not to exclude anything, spread the classes out and not separate days that Nitro Gas and FE run. you will have cross over if mixed. The Nitro and Gas need to respect FE time of quite to run, tune and setup FE. I and several others run all three.Comment
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My favorite pit guys are Nitro and Gas guys. Finally I could go to a Nats and not be racing all by my self.Comment
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That's been the issue with the NATs in general the past 4 or 5 years... That's why they ended up back out here on the West Coast again. No other club wanted to step up, or so I was told.
I can understand why. Seems like a lot of work, and, let's face it, FE guys don't seem to travel.
I'll be interested to see what the leadership comes up with. I have zero issues running at a combined event. If I had the time and resources, I'd race FE, Gas, and Nitro, so it's all fun to me.Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
"Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."Comment
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Well yeah. If I had that I'd race with every club in NA.
Of course then my marriage would go........
She would finally get rid of me as I've suggested for years.
Getting clubs to host a NATS is harder than it sounds. If you do it right, the idea is to not generate a single penny on the gig. If we come out with +$1 that's good enough for us. You would think people would want it in their back yard. They do but it always falls on the shoulders of a very small circle once a club commits. Everyone is gung ho but only a few know what to do. Some guys are willling to do leg work or labor but again.....someone has to cypher the whole thing out. FE clubs are typically small and usually relatively young. There aren't years and years of hosting experience to tap. If you go to a mixed event you wont believe how well run they are. I notice the logistics at a race. I'm sure it's just me. I noticed the organization at the CanAm for instance. Those guys got it down. Right down to delegating retrieve duties on a schedule. Very sweet. Atlanta was pretty stellar too. Atlanta members not racing at all. Just there to worship their guests so to speak. Each of those venue had people dedicated to the race itself. You see that less with FE. I think that may be partly a result of there being so few FE races to attend on a regular basis. FE guys like those that run M Cup races want to race too. Pretty tough to CD all the heats each day, race a few boats (poorly), cook the scores, do registration in the morning, answer every question that comes up, have 10 minutes to talk to anyone, make snap calls to piss everyone off. So you're frustrated. Someone is whining or grumbling. Now have a problem with your boat. You're scratched out of any class that you have a boat issue. There's no time to swap out even an RX unless someone does it for you. This is especially so if that circle putting it together is small. It's exhausting.
Ray of sunshine. Sorry.
Ken and I talked about this the other day. What clubs east of the Mississippi river could handle hostind a NAMBA FE nationals? MMEU, Morris County (if we could talk them into it), Wave Blasters and that's about it. Last time Morris County hosted was 2006. Skeleton crew. I don't think they loved it. Only one guy from the west showed. He showed up mid day to boot. MMEU hosted 3 times in 10 years. Plus a half dozen Cup races. Plus we traveled to two nats in that span. 2700 rules debates. That's about all the stepping up I got in me.
.................think I need a nap.....Noisy personComment
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So we can count u in Darin for gas.. Fe.. And nitro?? Lol.. It's not an easy task terry for sure..and u can bet Scottsdale vlub will be in bidding for nats in 2018 if all goes well on revamping of pond..maybe in discussion we should do some sort of a combined cup.. Have to race at least 1 class of each. Nitro gas and fe.. Like I said up for suggestions.. This will be a big event.. Sure not everyone will be happy with what classes are offered in all 3..Comment
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Give out a narbled look'n old wooden stick if you win one class of each fuel type. Call it the staff of diversity. hahahaNoisy personComment
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For 15 years I went to every Nats no matter where it was. Then when I had the Nats I could count the participants that showed up from the mid west and east coast on my fingers. So I understand the travel thing. Now as I am approaching 70tie it is hard to leave the district. So off to work on the "Rolling Ghetto".Comment
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I feel yer pain Randy. Also appreciate your support over the years.
You took a hit because of who was your front man that year. It's hard to get guys to travel to begin with. If people don't actually want to hang out with you in the first place it makes it even harder to convince them to attend.
I would race with you any time Randy. We've had our disagreements but I have no beef with you at all.Noisy personComment
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