Mamba XL X

[MarkF]

I have blown up 3 Neu 2230 on my sf300 at saw events and it still works. That's why I think Rays 300 may have been on the way out. But, we will see how mine does on my motor. I will also bring my castle 160 with me to test as well. It's anybody's guess how many amps a boat set up is going to pull. My motor is only rated at 180 amps for constant running so I hope it's not too much of an amp hog.

Mark

[rayzerdesigns]

The mamba xlx I have pulled over 300 amps.. I have seen brian pull over 270 on his .. the 160 and xlx are same board basically.. and if u go into setup both have same limits

[MarkF]

The good thing about the 160 is I can go in and get a ruff guess on amps pulled.

Mark

[RandyatBBY]

It's the same case as the xl2 so easy to convert to water cooling.. Does have 4 more caps that make overall length longer.. As far as performance.. I like the adjustable bec.. And running the 2 back to back it runs on average 30 to 40 degrees cooler than the xl2 with same exact setup in same boat and motor and prop..and have spiked it well over 275 amps.. Just wish they were a bit more waterproof

How do you know? the castles have no data recall.

[raptor347]

Castle ESC's have had data logging since the Ice series was introduced. XLx has logging.

[RandyatBBY]

thanks for the response Brian.

So the Mamba Monster 2 is a older ESC than the ones with data logging

[raptor347]

Yes. It's based on the older Monster design. The Monster X has data logging.

This is from memory, the original Monster was from the same era as the original hydra design.

[Raydee]

Hate to revive an old thread but I know if I start a new one I will get hammered. I recently picked up a telemetry radio that works with any of the Castle X series controllers. I have been running the 200 amp Castle Ice controllers in my boats with good success and wondered how you guys were making out the the Mamba XLX controller in the boats. I don't run saw so I am sure I won't be pushing them that hard.

[MG1234]

I’m wanting to convert a castle ESC to water cool but can’t find the post from last year where a guy made one clean in a solid epoxy cube ,my question is do I need to add special cap banks ? Planing on using XLX ,thanks

[dasboata]

I’m wanting to convert a castle ESC to water cool but can’t find the post from last year where a guy made one clean in a solid epoxy cube ,my question is do I need to add special cap banks ? Planing on using XLX ,thanks

KFX guy has a post around here showing that !!!

[ray schrauwen]

Although I've never tried one I've seen people convert these to Water cooled esc's. It's board layout is the same as the Castle series like the XL-2 but it's a knock off. Sometimes these go on sale for less than $100.

Sky RC https://hobbyking.com/en_us/turnigy-...o-car-esc.html

[MG1234]

Thanks ,now for caps,can I get a cap bank from the store here and properly install it ? Is it nessesary? I’ve seen some for sale that didn’t have caps added ,I’ll add them I just don’t know how to make sure they are correct if it’s really that close or can I over kill it and be safe?

[dmitry100]

So the mamba XL X’s are rated at 160amp? Figured they were same as the edge 200

[Brushless55]

Although I've never tried one I've seen people convert these to Water cooled esc's. It's board layout is the same as the Castle series like the XL-2 but it's a knock off. Sometimes these go on sale for less than $100.

Sky RC https://hobbyking.com/en_us/turnigy-...o-car-esc.html

for a while now I have been tempted to try one of those in P and Q.

[dmitry100]

I wouldn't bother with SkyRC version -- too many bad reviews with smoke. Concept looks good tho. Trackstar appears to be the more reliable version.

I've realized with these china/hobbyking controllers... even with the $200 ones is that there always is a "deficiency"... where they use cheap PCB/design, knock off/obsolete/used/old surplus Fets -- all to obtain maximum profits.

They have to make a controller for $100 and STILL be able to make a profit. It has to come from somewhere. Most modern brand name Fet chips cost as much as the controllers are being sold for.

Firmware is a whole other story. Bad firmware adds to the low performance... (unless its a clone of a brand).

BUT that doesn't mean we can't modify and improve them a bit to make them less prone to smoke. Gonna try flashing the firmware of some of my cheap controllers just to see if theres any improvement with using opensource firmware like BLHeli and SimonK.

[RandyatBBY]

Some times the cheap ESC can be used for light duty. Case in point I have the new Whiplash with a Pro Boat 1500Kv and a 52MM aluminum Prop. I added the 10 Capisitor capbank I build to the setup and have been running flawlessly. Now I would not trust this to a real full Psetup or a hot P LTD setup. I am running the CoolRC 90Amp ESC the low prifile made it work in my boat. Later in the year I will replace with a MGM when I can afford it.

[Speedfreek]

Here are two i have converted for mine but haven't used them yet still building my Mystic 138.
20180524_104734.jpg
Used the silicon conformal coating to water proof the board, see how it goes, i have used the XLX in a Slash 4x4 speed rig and went up to 378 amps
and i love the data loging it is very easy to use

[dasboata]

we have gotten 330 -350 amps on 8s,,, out of our XLX in cars ,,, The XLX is a way better esc , then the XL2

[dasboata]

Here are two i have converted for mine but haven't used them yet still building my Mystic 138.
20180524_104734.jpg
Used the silicon conformal coating to water proof the board see how it goes, i have used the XLX in a Slash 4x4 speed rig and went up to 378 amps
and i love the data loging it is very easy to use

Man I like that !!!!

[Raydee]

Yeah they came out great. My buddy machined some plates for our Egde 200's and it made a huge difference in esc temp.

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[MG1234]

Those are cool ,what about cap banks? Needed on those?

[MG1234]

Does your buddy have a CNC machine he can scan those plates and crank out some more?

[Raydee]

I have never run a cap pack and so far I haven't needed them. I always check my ripple current and it's always been pretty low.

My buddy did these on a small machine and we are looking to do a small run but I doubt he will sell them.

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[Speedfreek]

Man I like that !!!!

Thanks ,if a 40mm fan can cool this the water cooling will definitely make it a ice machine

[Speedfreek]

Yeah they came out great. My buddy machined some plates for our Egde 200's and it made a huge difference in esc temp.

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That will work no problem and make it more compact as well, i have ample room in my 138 so i just milled the fins out and set the cooling blocks in ..
Looking sweet