Out of all my props the Prather 225 got then most speed without over heating. I got 45mph
What prop should I get? Lucas oil
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Just started with RC boats 3 months ago... Trying to setup my MC with a good prop. Tried using the x442, x642, & m440/3... just wondering if the previous posters were running on 4S or 5S? Thanks...James J.Comment
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Stock 1800kv motor?
The Aquacraft 42x55 or the Octura X642 has been my favorite on 4S with that hull. About 48 mph with the X642.
Get the 2030kv Aquacraft motor with the X642 and you are at 54 mph on 4S.
I would try to stay at that speed or below with a stock hull, a hard flip will crack the seams on that boat.Comment
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Stock 1800kv motor?
The Aquacraft 42x55 or the Octura X642 has been my favorite on 4S with that hull. About 48 mph with the X642.
Get the 2030kv Aquacraft motor with the X642 and you are at 54 mph on 4S.
I would try to stay at that speed or below with a stock hull, a hard flip will crack the seams on that boat.James J.Comment
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Motley crew speeds not what you all are getting!
Stock 1800kv motor?
The Aquacraft 42x55 or the Octura X642 has been my favorite on 4S with that hull. About 48 mph with the X642.
Get the 2030kv Aquacraft motor with the X642 and you are at 54 mph on 4S.
I would try to stay at that speed or below with a stock hull, a hard flip will crack the seams on that boat.
Thanks.TFL Zonda (124mph), Miss Geico Zelos 36 (108mph), Veles 29 (91mph), Zelos Twin 36 (90mph), Miss Geico 29v3 (83.5mph), Sonicwake 36 V2 (83mph), Blackjack 42 (81mph), TFL Pursuit (79mph), UL-19 (75mph), Sonicwake 36 (73mph), Motley Crew (47.5mph), AquaCraft Rescue 17Comment
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Do any of you add any positive to your strut after it is set or do you just adjust the height level or just below the sponsons and roll with that?TFL Zonda (124mph), Miss Geico Zelos 36 (108mph), Veles 29 (91mph), Zelos Twin 36 (90mph), Miss Geico 29v3 (83.5mph), Sonicwake 36 V2 (83mph), Blackjack 42 (81mph), TFL Pursuit (79mph), UL-19 (75mph), Sonicwake 36 (73mph), Motley Crew (47.5mph), AquaCraft Rescue 17Comment
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I have tried 3 props x642 profesionally s&b 38.5mph, x442 s&b 38.2mph, 42x55 not sharpen just for the hell of it and ran 35mph. All on zippy 5000 mah 4s. Strut set at 1/8 up from sponsons batteries all the way back,middle, center every which way imaginable and not getting close to the 45-50 mph speeds you all are getting? What am I missing? I have the strut set level, should I put negative or positive angle at the end of the strut. I watched a video of Mike Z himself and he demoed the boat and said it was capable of running near and up to 40mph?? Not sure how you all are reaching nearly 50 on 4s. Any help would be appreciated. All my test have been on near perfect water. Here is a link to Mike's video.
Thanks.
Out of the box with a stock plastic prop, you are looking at 38-40 mph or so. Get the 42x55 or 642, your speeds should go to 45 mph or so, with some tuning, 47-48 mph is about the limit with the stock 1800kv on 4S. You go with a 2030kv from the UL-1, you should hit 54-55 mph. We have stock 2030kv motors on 5S with Seaking 120/180 ESCs doing 60+ mph.
These speeds are pretty normal from what I've seen. I don't know why are you getting 38 mph with a x642 on 4S, you should be in the 45-47 mph zone. My strut angle is a bit more negative than neutral and the batteries as far forward as possible to keep the nose down, otherwise it blows over really easy.
My only though is your motor has a problem, or your throttle isn't calibrated properly. However, is you are using the stock Aquacraft ESC, it forces you to do a throttle calibration everytime you arm it, so it can't be that.
Maybe take a video and post it for us?Comment
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Here is a video of the first run box stock on 4s. (33.9mph). The Geico was running 42 mph I have a video I will upload tonight of the 38 mph run with x642.
TFL Zonda (124mph), Miss Geico Zelos 36 (108mph), Veles 29 (91mph), Zelos Twin 36 (90mph), Miss Geico 29v3 (83.5mph), Sonicwake 36 V2 (83mph), Blackjack 42 (81mph), TFL Pursuit (79mph), UL-19 (75mph), Sonicwake 36 (73mph), Motley Crew (47.5mph), AquaCraft Rescue 17Comment
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It does look a bit slow. I'm using the same GPS by the way.
I'm assuming you are running the stock flexshaft?
If so, is the brass bushing in the strut free floating, or is it jammed in there? How much friction is there with the flexshaft in the strut?
Sometimes the tolerances on the stub shaft and the brass bushing are off and cause too much friction.
Also, how much gap are you leaving between the drive dog and the end of the strut, you want about 3-4 mm at least. Sometimes under hard acceleration, the flexshaft will compress enough to bind the drive dog to the end of the strut.Comment
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It does look a bit slow. I'm using the same GPS by the way.
I'm assuming you are running the stock flexshaft?
If so, is the brass bushing in the strut free floating, or is it jammed in there? How much friction is there with the flexshaft in the strut?
Sometimes the tolerances on the stub shaft and the brass bushing are off and cause too much friction.
Also, how much gap are you leaving between the drive dog and the end of the strut, you want about 3-4 mm at least. Sometimes under hard acceleration, the flexshaft will compress enough to bind the drive dog to the end of the strut.
4-5mm gap is the setting I use for flexshaft.
Bushing doesn't free float. I sanded it and got it to come in and out of the stuffing tube pretty good, now when push it all the way in it goes inside the strut holder and I leave the 5mm gap then when I give the boat throttle the bushing sucks back out onto the OSE flex right against the drive dog. Is this normal? The bushing seems to stay out of the holder about 5mm because I have than much gap and it is getting pulled out by the flex when the motor spins. Do you have a picture if your strut setting that I can compare to mine? People are saying 1/8 inch BELOW the sponson's and I also read 1/8 inch above the sponson's. Which is correct to be in the ballpark with x642? Thanks for your help!
Here is another running video (38mph) with x642 that you might be able to tell more about it.
Last edited by MADRCER; 06-03-2017, 02:51 AM.TFL Zonda (124mph), Miss Geico Zelos 36 (108mph), Veles 29 (91mph), Zelos Twin 36 (90mph), Miss Geico 29v3 (83.5mph), Sonicwake 36 V2 (83mph), Blackjack 42 (81mph), TFL Pursuit (79mph), UL-19 (75mph), Sonicwake 36 (73mph), Motley Crew (47.5mph), AquaCraft Rescue 17Comment
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Yes, that's perfectly normal for the bushing to move around inside and a little outside during operation, that's what you want to see with that setup.
Attached is my photos of my strut settings, it's what I've been using since I switched to the 2030kv and X642, otherwise the boat will flip over due to the speeds it's getting now.
I would say the bottom of the strut is about 1/8" below the sponson, but also in negative direction. Please note that 3rd photo makes it look like the strut is level, it is not, it's about 1/8th down below sponson, I just wanted you to get a closer look at the negative angle of the strut.
I don't think this will fix your problem, my settings are because of the speeds the boat is getting, your lack of speed seems to be from your lack of power. Maybe borrow a 1800kv motor and see if there is any difference? My UL-1 had a motor issue that caused speed problems, Aquacraft sent me a replacement and fixed the problem.
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