Boat build forum, why the name change?

[Ken_NJ]

Why was the Boat Build forum changed to "Boat Building Q & A"? It's not a Q&A forum, it's a place to document boat builds.

The "Fast Electric RC Boating Questions and Answers" forum should cover questions and answers boaters have about boats n things.

Makes no sense to me.

[Diegoboy]

The build forum was never intended to be what it has become. It's intent was to be a place where people do a build from start to finish in a "how to" format with pictures and no comments like
"Cool" or "Awesome" or ""

It has become a place where people show what they've got to build and ask for direction on what to do
It has become a place where people show the completed steps in pictures without direction on how they got to that point
It has become a place where others must sift through page s and pages of comments before they get to the next step in the process
It has become a place where people hijack the build thread because they've done one or are doing one too

The new section will be just that. Only the OP will be able to post till completion then it will be opened up for comments at the end.

[Ken_NJ]

IMO, I think it's rather difficult for anyone to post a build where they build the boat step by step like instructions out of a kit box without interaction from others. I certainly might not know the next step to take with a scratch build project without asking or getting opinions from others that might have experience with something that I don't, but I'm willing to learn. If I am building a boat from start to finish I would not post it in a forum where I get no response or feedback. If that's that case I guess all of the builds in the "Boat Building Q & A" are more suited in a forum with that title. I'm building a boat with no instructions and winging it in my head day to day. Like I said, my opinion. Was curious about the change. So be it. Thanks Danny.

[Diegoboy]

Just imagine you're about to build a boat and you're not sure exactly how. You navigate to the new build section and see that someone who knows more had already built what you want to build. You follow along in his thread and duplicate his results and didn't have to sift through a ton of commentary. That's what we're trying to get to.

You're welcome Ken!

[tlandauer]

So if one intends to just build without any interaction ( like a tutorial) then one should post in the "new" section, but if one is going along like what Ken is saying, ( often times the less experienced guys like myself won't mind being interrupted and have questions along the build) then one should still post in the " Boat Building Q and A" section?
I mean it all makes sense but I don't want to start a thread in the wrong place.
BTW, thanks Danny!

[kfxguy]

Just imagine you're about to build a boat and you're not sure exactly how. You navigate to the new build section and see that someone who knows more had already built what you want to build. You follow along in his thread and duplicate his results and didn't have to sift through a ton of commentary. That's what we're trying to get to.

You're welcome Ken!

with all do respect, what about the guys that build something no one else has before? example, olwarbirds drag hydro..... so everytime he has a question about it, he should post a new thread? I'm not so sure thats a good idea.......I think people like the feed back they get during the process, I know I do. I think if you just want people to stop posting builds, this move will head it in that direction. No one like talking to themself. maybe have a seperate forum for each way then. If someone wants to post a build and have no feedback or discussion...post in this section.. If you want feedback...post in this section.

[Diegoboy]

So if one intends to just build without any interaction ( like a tutorial) then one should post in the "new" section, but if one is going along like what Ken is saying, ( often times the less experienced guys like myself won't mind being interrupted and have questions along the build) then one should still post in the " Boat Building Q and A" section?
I mean it all makes sense but I don't want to start a thread in the wrong place.
BTW, thanks Danny!

Yes that's exactly correct.

with all do respect, what about the guys that build something no one else has before? example, olwarbirds drag hydro..... so everytime he has a question about it, he should post a new thread? I'm not so sure thats a good idea.......I think people like the feed back they get during the process, I know I do. I think if you just want people to stop posting builds, this move will head it in that direction. No one like talking to themself. maybe have a seperate forum for each way then. If someone wants to post a build and have no feedback or discussion...post in this section.. If you want feedback...post in this section.

That's why the name change to "Boat Building - Q & A", and the (Step by Step) board is in it's own separate section. Steven will be setting up the new section to allow only the OP to be able to post, then when it's complete, a MOD will open it up for discussion.
Darin Jordan does a lot of the "ideal step by step" builds, if the comments were removed.

[Ken_NJ]

To me 'Fast Electric Rc Boating Questions and Answers' and 'Boat Building - Q & A' sound like they are the same thing. For the most part this is a FE forum and both are under 'OffshoreElectrics FE Boating Forums'. Someone has a question on FE boats? Which forum would they go to? Regulars would know but new members might be confused. IMO the name should be something more identifiable than 'Boat Building - Q & A'. Something like 'Fast Electric Boats builds' with a description of 'Open discussion of scratch or kit builds'. I posted my one and only build so far as a discussion, not to ask questions to others.

If someone has general questions about FE boats or parts, go to 'Fast Electric Rc Boating Questions and Answers'
If someone wants an open discussion about a build they are doing, go to 'Fast Electric Boat builds'
If someone is going to create a step by step process on a boat, go to one of the 'Build Guides' section.

[Diegoboy]

Just a few examples to help explain...

I have a boat that suddenly changes it's behavior while I run it. --> FE Q & A
I have a boat that I can't get to run as fast as it should. --> FE Q & A
I have a boat that runs hot even in winter water --> FE Q & A
I would like to know where is the best place to install the motor --> Build Q & A
I have a hull and want input on weather or not to offset my drive line --> Build Q & A

I hope this helps

[ray schrauwen]

Yes it does, thanks

[Ken_NJ]

Again... IMO... I still think that one forum name & description falls short. My build, and others in that forum are there to show others what they are building, how they are doing it, and want to show how and what from start to end. Sure there may be questions along the way, which end up being discussed, but they are not one off questions about where to put the motor or how long to wait for paint or fiberglass to dry. My last words about it. Love the forum, enjoy seeing what others are doing and sharing what I do.

[srislash]

So Danny, we will be looking for more 'instructional' build threads in the future? I tried this style on another forum and viewership sucked. I know I am not supposed do it for my ego but I do like the feedback and occasional conversation.
That being said it would be good to have a 'documented' section and I will have a go at it.

Can we have something in regards to the search button or 'feel free to read' put on the forum Front Page?

[Diegoboy]

Ken,
I understand your concern, would a name change to "Boat Building talk" make more sense? I'd be happy to call it that.

Shawn,
Thank you for having a go at it! Anyone new to RC Boating will appreciate your efforts too.
Let me know how you feel about traffic or visibility to the new section after the new layout is implemented.

[srislash]

I'd be glad to help Danny. I'll have a Daytona Twin/Single? here that I have been wanting to do just this with. Thanks for the speedy reply.

[kfxguy]

I guess here's what I'm thinking.....

Guy a) may want to just post his build, seasoned pro...does not want or need input, advice, discussion or questions in his thread. I could see that for a few people.

Guy b) not a seasoned pro, likes the advice given, discussion and comments along with ideas as he posts his build.

So maybe, in humble opinion, think we should have a closed type build section like original and then a build section like we just had where people can talk, interact and motivate the builder along. I think it's been going well that way. I agree sometimes it may stray a little off the beating path, but that's part of the fun and the interaction between members. Just my .02