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    Default Legg Lake 5-Day Super SAW Event Wed Nov 5th-Sun Nov 9th

    The Amigos are hosting a 5-day SAW event at Legg Lake in South El Monte Wednesday November 5th through Sunday November 9th. We are anticipating an international gathering of a selection of the fastest radio control model boats. We encourage all to participate or just come out and watch some of the fastest model boats worldwide.

    https://www.google.com/maps/place/Le...8657a5d140fedf

    We ask all contestants to pre-register with Mark Grim so we can get a head count particularly for food. Kim Grim will be serving up her 5 star BBQ several of the days and it’s reason enough to come even if you don’t run.

    The event is open to all NAMBA legal classes Nitro, Gas and Electric. NAMBA membership and proof of current standing is required so please bring your card. Single event coverage is available onsite.

    Contact: Mark Grim
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    mgrim@mindspring.com

    Due to its size and expected high speeds we are adding several specific rules to the event.

    1. All boats will go through a pre-tech to check for general rules compliance
    a. Hull classification
    b. NAMBA numbers, appropriate lettering per class specifics
    c. Radio/electrical tidiness (i.e. solid connections, good mounting, no rats nests)
    d. Mechanicals (pushrods, mounts, etc)
    e. General battery tech for FE boats
    2. At the beginning of each day we will define a running order for all the contestants.
    a. The “on deck” and “in the back-up” will be called for each run.
    b. The CD may amend per conditions as necessary.
    c. A driver may pass on a run, but must wait till the next turn to run.
    d. A driver may run multiple boats within the 5 minute window
    e. A driver may relaunch within the 5 minute window
    f. Drivers cannot switch spots in line.
    g. It is suggested if you are helping a competitor and are a contestant you space yourself by several people in the running order.
    3. Contestants will have 5 minutes from the time their name is called to launch and run their boat.
    a. FE boats should be taped in advance
    b. Some leniency will be granted to drivers where the previous driver has skipped a turn.
    c. The CD has the right to amend as necessary.
    4. Contestants must have a launcher/spotter. This may be different people, but a spotter is absolutely required for any pass. The host club will be happy to assist any contestant or appoint a local racer with sufficient knowledge of the lake.
    5. No High Voltage cells will be allowed at any time
    a. FE boats will be subject to a pre-tech before they tape up. Individual cell voltages cannot under any circumstance exceed 4.23V/cell. A simple cell checker will be used. If any cell is at 4.23V, a Fluke DVM will be used as a secondary check to confirm.
    b. There will be random checks in the pits for excessive charging. Competitors must be willing to show the maximum voltage charge per cell in their charger to an inspector.
    6. Safe Charging and lipo handling
    a. Prewarming is allowed, but limited to 140F.
    b. Prewarming must be performed in a safe manner no exceptions.
    c. Charging in Lipo Bags or fireproof container is recommended.
    d. Lipos when unconnected will have at minimum one lead covered by a cap or shield to prevent accidental shorting to the opposite lead.
    7. FE Pre-tech:
    a. Prior to a run a FE competitor will request a pre-tech before they tape up.
    b. An inspector will walk to the contestants pit area when they will check cell voltages for compliance prior to a run.
    c. The inspector will have a pre-filled card for that boat to verify it was checked prior to a run.
    d. The card will be used again for the post tech.
    8. Following a record run boat
    a. A nitro or Gas boat will be tagged by the CD. The contestant can continue to run, but may not teardown the motor or remove from the boat unless in the presence of an inspector appointed by the CD.
    b. An FE boat must be placed near the timing table and untapped in the presence of an approved inspector. The inspector will verify pack voltage and electrical connection per class rules. The tech card will be filled out and approved.
    9. Priority runs towards the end of the event.
    a. Starting Saturday afternoon we will initiate a priority list for running for those close to their respective records to take advantage of prime water.
    b. Previous runs during the event will qualify a contestant for the “short list”
    c. We will use a 5% rule for proximity; however the CD may alter as necessary.
    We reserve the right to amend these rules so check back prior to the event.


    NAMBA SAW Rules Nov 5th-9th Legg Lake 2014-09-30.pdf
    Tyler Garrard
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    I commend the Amigos and friends for their focus on the letter of the rules and on safety. I am so looking forward to this event!


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    Nicely Done, Amigos!!
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    Great job Amigos/Tyler

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    Nice write up Tyler. The only thing I can think of is fire extinguishers at every pit. Maybe we can supply these to people from out of town.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluid View Post
    I commend the Amigos and friends for their focus on the letter of the rules and on safety.


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    Once we get the confirmed head count we need to confer to find out exactly what pit equipment needs to be supplied for the out of town entrants.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkF View Post
    Nice write up Tyler. The only thing I can think of is fire extinguishers at every pit. Maybe we can supply these to people from out of town.

    Mark
    Yes, those are a basic NAMBA rule. I plan on the Amigos/SoCalFE helping out here. I know I have a couple extras.
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    Sounds great gents. I am not sure if Kris and Aaron are at this one I think they are. If so could someone make sure they get some video of the Aussie boys. Be nice to see them running and hopefully bring more people over in the future.

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    This is CERTAINLY the one Andrew!!

    Appreciate the help USA boy with extingushiers and tables :) and maybe a power supply...Do I need my own charger for my 4s stuff? or has someone got a hyperion charger i can borrow? Just trying to stay light and bring the important stuff :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kris Flynn View Post
    This is CERTAINLY the one Andrew!!

    Appreciate the help USA boy with extingushiers and tables :) and maybe a power supply...Do I need my own charger for my 4s stuff? or has someone got a hyperion charger i can borrow? Just trying to stay light and bring the important stuff :)

    I can cover you with Hyperion Charger(s)* & power supply. Should have plenty of gen power available.

    * what connectors & polarities are on your batts so I'll have charging cables to match?
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    I know I offered to help with an EZ-up but the garage it was in caught fire and I'm not sure how long insurance will take. It smells like smoke so I guess it's a loss, looked ok to me but gotta play da rules

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    Quote Originally Posted by properchopper View Post
    I can cover you with Hyperion Charger(s)* & power supply. Should have plenty of gen power available.

    * what connectors & polarities are on your batts so I'll have charging cables to match?
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    hmmmmm I have a 4s rigger that I got from a guy named brian............................
    We call ourselves the "Q"

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    I suggest you throw it in a suitcase and take the family to LA and make it go fast. If it doesn't there is always Disneyland!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaceMechaniX View Post
    I suggest you throw it in a suitcase and take the family to LA and make it go fast. If it doesn't there is always Disneyland!
    "Ummmm.. John, I agree"....

    Mike... You'd have a BLAST!!
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    Mike I'd be happy to supply bubble gum on days you don't want to kick ass.

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    I picked up this Voltage Checker from Horizon this week. Seems to work really well. Plugs into the voltage taps of some batteries directly (Align style taps), or through a universal adapter board, like shown in the video.

    Provides "ALL" voltage, as well as each cell.

    Retails for $9.99 at Horizon Hobby. Compact and seems to be very simple to use.

    I'd consider this a great tool for the racers as well as officials.

    I'll bring it to this SAW event for review.

    http://www.horizonhobby.com/li-po-ce...hecker-dyn4071


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    The only downside I see Darin is it only reads to 2 decimal places compared to the Hyperion checker and clones which go to three places for cell voltages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaceMechaniX View Post
    The only downside I see Darin is it only reads to 2 decimal places compared to the Hyperion checker and clones which go to three places for cell voltages.

    TG
    I have 2 Hyperions + 2 Clones (all go to 3 decimal points to the right ) + a Fluke 77.

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    At less then half the price of a Hyperion they do the trick. Also we( shop I was working at) had a hard time keeping the hyperions in stock. We got them from Empire and they seemed to be on BO often.

    We brought some of the ones in like what Darin posted. I used one just about every day and never had an issue. First it reads total pack voltage, then scrolls threw the cells. Not much to report on it.

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    I hope to make it out this time.... If I dont race, I have a pop up tent loaner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaceMechaniX View Post
    The only downside I see Darin is it only reads to 2 decimal places compared to the Hyperion checker and clones which go to three places for cell voltages.

    TG
    Ummmm... if we need to start reading to 3... we might want to re-evaluate just how seriously we are taking this hobby...
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    I am going to pay special attention to you 1 cell guys! Every millivolt counts and seeing the third decimal place is the difference between 4.239 and 4.230. Just trying to eliminate any possible doubts.
    Is that second boat built yet Darin?

    TG
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaceMechaniX View Post
    I am going to pay special attention to you 1 cell guys! Every millivolt counts and seeing the third decimal place is the difference between 4.239 and 4.230. Just trying to eliminate any possible doubts.
    Nice... I'll make sure and charge things up "REAL GOOD" just so you'll have something interesting to check!

    Quote Originally Posted by RaceMechaniX View Post
    Is that second boat built yet Darin?

    TG
    I'm still trying to finish up the first one! Hoping to have the clear-coat on it tonight though...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darin Jordan View Post
    Nice... I'll make sure and charge things up "REAL GOOD" just so you'll have something interesting to check!



    I'm still trying to finish up the first one! Hoping to have the clear-coat on it tonight though...


    Best to use an anti-static mat when testing for three decimal places. I know that if I comb my beard too fast the second hand on my watch picks up speed..
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    Darin,

    Your boat design?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Caruso View Post
    Darin,

    Your boat design?

    Mike
    Yes... based on many years of getting help from the best out there... started with a blank piece of paper and hopefully have come up with what I need to meet my goal.
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    Great job coming right along.
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