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  • Andy Greene
    Junior Member
    • Sep 2012
    • 18

    #1

    100 MPH Mono

    Shared from the German SAWS -
    Not sure who the pilot was, but it looks like Arnie with him on the dock-
    Congrats to Les Smith on the awesome design of the Raptor 55
    Awesome boat in person......

  • kendt
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2011
    • 557

    #2
    That is crazy. Nice boat for sure.

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    • Doug Smock
      Moderator
      • Apr 2007
      • 5272

      #3
      It was Ralph Moser.
      Congratulations, awesome accomplishment!!!

      Also want to congratulate Mike Whitley (SpeedCraft Boats), Mike Whitney, and Les Smith.

      moved thread
      MODEL BOAT RACER
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      District 13 Director 2011- present
      IMPBA National Records Director 2009-2019
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      • Andy Greene
        Junior Member
        • Sep 2012
        • 18

        #4
        Originally posted by Doug Smock
        It was Ralph Moser.
        Congratulations, awesome accomplishment!!!

        Also want to congratulate Mike Whitley (SpeedCraft Boats), Mike Whitney, and Les Smith.

        moved thread
        Thanks Doug, you know I always need a push in the right direction

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        • Chilli
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Jan 2008
          • 3070

          #5
          First thing I though when I saw the video was, hmmm that looks kind of like s Speedcraft. LOL
          Mike Chirillo
          www.capitolrcmodelboats.com

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          • Doug Smock
            Moderator
            • Apr 2007
            • 5272

            #6
            Originally posted by Chilli
            First thing I though when I saw the video was, hmmm that looks kind of like s Speedcraft. LOL
            The funny thing is Mike (SpeedCraft boats) wouldn't have been upset if the guy had been honest with him. Whatever, I'm glad the boat made a SPLASH.
            MODEL BOAT RACER
            IMPBA President
            District 13 Director 2011- present
            IMPBA National Records Director 2009-2019
            IMPBA 19887L CD
            NAMBA 1169

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            • Ralf
              Member
              • Aug 2010
              • 46

              #7
              Hi,

              i think i will write my opinion to that stuff. First: i am neutral to this stuff, i have no emotions regarding manufacturers or not. I simply buy a hull cause it looks cool and it is simply a basis for running saw. Never had a hull which ran really fine at 100mph...so you buy a raw "block".
              Now from a strictly technical/physical view:

              Is the raptor a killer oval boat? Yes! Drove it at extrem stormy condistions and never had such a safe and fast running mono.
              Is the raptor a good saw boat? No

              Why? Because of her bottom and asymmetric design.
              Hydrodynamic studies for highspeed vessels clearly stated: no negative pressure on the bottom.
              With that convex surfaces are good for displacement and semi displacement hulls, but not for planning vessels (stravitsky etc.).
              And the raptor has a bottom with convex surface on an extrem position relative to the CG.
              This is running really cool at speeds up to 65mph, but it get really critical at speeds above 75mph on calm water (SAW).
              This is clearly visible when looking at the power consumption of the 100mph pass (103 GPS). You also see how wet the boat is running. It is not only wet, it is sucked to the surface. This results in a power consumption of 30% higher than my older boats at 100mph and also reducing speed.

              After 1.5 years working with the hull i tested everything to get it working with the convex shape. Now i am at a point (also related to the next SAW timeline) where i have to give up or do bigger changes in the hydrodynamics of the hull.
              We will see.

              Raptor vs. Speedcraft or the copy stuff:
              Les stated in jrcbd that the hull is modified by 80% related to a speedcraft. And if i look at the proportions of a speedcraft and the vids how they are running without mods in the running surface i would say this statement is correct.
              I also have the opinion that the real big changes for handling are simply not visible by some pictures. Cause you are searching for diffences in 1-2mm areas or way more smaller.

              If the speedcraft is straight or slighlty hooked in the bottom it is definitely a different boat.
              Maybe Doug can provide some data.

              This is my impression, i do not claim it is 100% correct, it is an impression. It is a big distance between myself and the US so i have not much insight in the scene or relationships.

              Regards
              Ralf

              Again, simply technical, i have no interest in stupid wars. And can only laugh about the typical statements "it is a seaducer" only because a hull is having tunnel-design in the deck, a hook or a deep nose....riggers are basically also looking the same all over the world.
              It is like a corvette has 4 wheels and also a ford raptor svt...
              Last edited by Ralf; 04-24-2014, 08:43 AM.
              WR T-Mono 108.95mph

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              • Spartanator
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Oct 2013
                • 1060

                #8
                Sheesh! Can't even express that on my keyboard!
                Why are you bothering me? I want to see your boat!
                32" CF Rivercat--- built by "kfxguy" (SOLD)

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                • Doug Smock
                  Moderator
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 5272

                  #9
                  Hi Ralph,
                  Don't let the noise bother you. It takes nothing away from you, or what you were able to do with the "Raptor".
                  And actually, you wouldn't have read a word about any of this had Wes given credit where credit was due. He failed to do that, and it bothered those of us that watched Mike Whitley work his butt off on his monos. Mike did it right, he started with a pile of sticks, not someone else's design.
                  Enough of that.

                  There is no hook in any of the SpeedCraft monos, 34,48,54, oval, or purpose built oval and SAWs boats. They don't need it to stay on the pond.
                  Perhaps Wes should have kept a higher percentage of Mike's original design.
                  SpeedCraft monos hold five IMPBA records currently, and around ten in total

                  Best of luck to you on your SAW efforts!

                  Much respect,

                  Doug
                  MODEL BOAT RACER
                  IMPBA President
                  District 13 Director 2011- present
                  IMPBA National Records Director 2009-2019
                  IMPBA 19887L CD
                  NAMBA 1169

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                  • Ralf
                    Member
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 46

                    #10
                    Hi Doug,

                    thanks for the information.
                    So the Speedcraft is basically a straight hull in the buttocks?
                    This is something i would expect with the data i saw.

                    Now, for SAW it maybe would have been better left some stuff from the basic. But i can only say, that the Raptor is maybe not the fastest, otherwise has a really cool handling in stormy conditions.

                    It is funny when you are standing at the pond @SAW and you are hoping for more rougher conditions with a 100mph-Mono.
                    Thank you, also good luck for your comps :)

                    Ralf
                    WR T-Mono 108.95mph

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