So this is what hes going to do if he gets in

[ReddyWatts]

We also use natural gas to produce power, but I was told it is soon to be in a major short supply or run out in the next ten years. They already have to store it up in underground caverns during off peak usage to have enough for winter load.

[sjslhill]

Hydro plants are going up along the Ky. river, should be nice....

Darn coal puffers are everywhere here.

Natural Gas would be better......

I'd love to build my own Nuclear power plant, aero plant, hydro plant, solar plant anything but a damn oil or coal plant

[RCprince]

We also use natural gas to produce power, but I was told it is soon to be in a major short supply or run out in the next ten years. They already have to store it up in underground caverns during off peak usage to have enough for winter load.

That my point Reddy, this backwards thinking generation and the couple prior. Sun, Rain,Air and fusion is abundant...I once believed those elements we removed from the earth will cause us great harm oneday.

[ReddyWatts]

The kicker is the electric user pays a higher price for the clean power. The new equipment and operation costs are added to your electric bill. Power lines and substations from the wind gen farms have to be build to transfer power to the cities. We have an open electric grid here. You can buy electricity from about 25 different competitive companies. Open competition should lower your bill right? Ours has increased by 50% since competition started.

[Doozie870]

I have heard that neo magnets from a hardware store (when stacked up) can slow down, stop, or in some instances with the proper placement make the meter run backwards. I personally would never try such a dirty thing.

[ReddyWatts]

Electric billing technology is changing. It is going to microprocessor meters with no mechanical disks. They will communicate with all your home appliances and air conditioner for realtime usage readings that the customer can view 24/7. It can also transmit your meter reading over the power lines to the main office and disconnect your electric service remotely .

It wont be long until someone will be trying to reprogram it for a cheaper rate. ha

[RCprince]

hackers are salivating....

[Ocean Racer]

Sorry if it sounds like im mad. But man what a thread i start it with a picture and then it changes to motors. Owell at least i dont care to much what you guys post on here or talk about just stay withn the member rules. Im not like some guys who make you stay on subject. Im fine with you guys changing subject. Currently this is my most productive thread thank you all for the post keep it going.

[Bill-SOCAL]

Am I the only one struck by the irony of comments about staying "On Topic" in the "Off Topic" forum.

It has been some fun!

[Dr. Jet]

Hey what about the Brett Favre deal?

[Doug Smock]

I thought this was cute.....

[Doozie870]

Lol

[Ocean Racer]

That is a sweet shot of obama there D.Smock. Like i said i dont realy care what you guys talk about just keep in the R.O.S and will be good.

[Dr. Jet]

This is very well written and I recommend everyone take a little time to read this entire write-up. You won't be disappointed!


Dear Friends:

My name is Joe Porter . I live in Champaign , Illinois . I'm 46 years old, a born-again Christian, a husband, a father, a small business owner, a veteran, and a homeowner. I don't considerable myself to be either conservative or liberal, and I vote for the person, not Republican or Democrat I don't believe there are "two Americas" - but that every person in this country can be whomever and whatever they want to be if they'll just work to get there - and nowhere else on earth can they find such opportunities. I believe our government should help those who are legitimately downtrodden, and should always put the interests of America first.

The purpose of this message is that I'm concerned about the future of this great nation. I'm worried that the silent majority of honest, hard-working, tax-paying people in this country have been passive for too long. Most folks I know choose not to involve themselves in politics. They go about their daily lives, paying their bills, raising their kids, and doing what they can to maintain the good life. They vote and consider doing so to be a sacred trust. They shake their heads at the political pundits and so-called "news", thinking that what they hear is always spun by whoever is reporting it. They can't understand how elected officials can regularly violate the public trust with pork barrel spending. They don't want government handouts. They want the government to protect them, not raise their taxes for more government programs.

We are in the unique position in this country of electing our leaders. It's a privilege to do so. I've never found a candidate in any election with whom I agreed on everything. I'll wager that most of us don't even agree with our families or spouse s 100% of the time. So when I step into that voting booth, I always try to look at the big picture and cast my vote for the man or woman who is best qualified for the job. I've hired a lot of people in my lifetime, and essentially that's what an election is - a hiring process. Who has the credentials? Whom do I want working for me? Whom can I trust to do the job right?

I'm concerned that a growing number of voters in this country simply don't get it. They are caught up in a fervor they can't explain, and calling it "change."

Change what?, I ask.

Well, we're going to change America , they say.

In what way? I query.

We want someone new and fresh in the White House, they exclaim.

So, someone who's not a politician?, I press.

Uh, well, no, we just want a lot of stuff changed, so we're voting for Obama, they state.

So the current system, the system of freedom and democracy that has enabled a man to grow up in this great country, get a fine education, raise incredible amounts of money and dominate the news and win his party's nomination for the White House - that system's all wrong?

No, no, that part of the system's okay - we just need a lot of change.

And so it goes. "Change we can believe in." Quite frankly, I don't believe that vague proclamations of change hold any promise for me. In recent months, I've been asking virtually everyone I encounter how they're voting. I live in Illinois, so most folks tell me they're voting for Barack Obama . But no one can really tell me why - only that he's going to change a lot of stuff. Change, change, change. I have yet to find one single person who can tell me distinctly and convincingly why this man is qualified to be President and Commander-in-Chief of the most powerful nation on earth - other than the fact that he claims he's going to implement a lot of change.

We've all seen the emails about Obama's genealogy, his upbringing, his Muslim background, and his church affiliations. Let's ignore this for a moment.

Put it all aside. Then ask yourself, what qualifies this man to be my president? That he's a brilliant orator and talks about change?

CHANGE WHAT?

Friends, I'll be forthright with you - I believe the American voters who are supporting Barack Obama don't have a clue what they're doing, as evidenced by the fact that not one of them - NOT ONE of them I've spoken to can spell out his qualifications. Not even the most liberal media can explain why he should be elected.

Political experience? Negligible.
Foreign relations? Non-existent.
Achievements? Name one.
Someone who wants to unite the country? If you haven't read his wife's thesis from Princeton, look it up on the web. This is who's lining up to be our next First Lady? The only thing I can glean from Obama's constant harping about change is that we're in for a lot of new taxes.

For me, the choice is clear. I've looked carefully at the two leading applicants for the job, and I've made my choice.
Here's a question - where were you five and a half years ago? Around Christmas, 2002. You've had five or six birthdays in that time. My son has grown from a sixth grade child to a high school graduate. Five and a half years is a good chunk of time. About 2,000 days. 2,000 nights of sleep. 6, 000 meals, give or take.

John McCain spent that amount of time, from 1967 to 1973, in a North Vietnamese prisoner-of-war camp.

When offered early release, he refused it. He considered this offer to be a public relations stunt by his captors, and insisted that those held longer than he should be released first. Did you get that part? He was offered his freedom, and he turned it down. A regimen of beatings and torture began.

Do you possess such strength of character? Locked in a filthy cell in a foreign country, would you turn down your own freedom in favor of your fellow man? I submit that's a quality of character that is rarely found, and for me, this singular act defines John McCain.

Unlike several presidential candidates in recent years whose military service is questionable or non-existent, you will not find anyone to denigrate the integrity and moral courage of this man. A graduate of Annapolis, during his Naval service he received the Silver Star, Bronze Star, Purple Heart and Distinguished Flying Cross. His own son is now serving in the Marine Corps in Iraq. Barack Obama is fond of saying "We honor John McCain's service...BUT...", which to me is condescending and offensive - because what I hear is, "Let's forget this man's sacrifice for his country and his proven leadership abilities, and talk some more about change."

I don't agree with John McCain on everything - but I am utterly convinced that he is qualified to be our next President, and I trust him to do what's right. I know in my heart that he has the best interests of our country in mind. He doesn't simply want to be President - he wants to lead America, and there's a huge difference.
Factually, there is simply no comparison between the two candidates. A man of questionable background and motives who prattles on about change can't hold a candle to a man who has devoted his life in public service to this nation, retiring from the Navy in 1981 and elected to the Senate in 1982.

Perhaps Obama's supporters are taking a stance between old and new. Maybe they don't care about McCain's service or his strength of character, or his unblemished qualifications to be President. Maybe "likeability" is a higher priority for them than "trust". Being a prisoner of war is not what qualifies John McCain to be President of the United States of America - but his demonstrated leadership certainly DOES.

Dear friends, it is time for us to stand. It is time for thinking Americans to say, "Enough. " It is time for people of all parties to stop following the party line. It is time for anyone who wants to keep America first, who wants the right man leading their nation, to start a dialogue with all their friends and neighbors and ask who they're voting for, and why.

There's a lot of evil in this world. That should be readily apparent to all of us by now. And when faced with that evil as we are now, I want a man who knows the cost of war on his troops and on his citizens. I want a man who puts my family's interests before any foreign country.

I want a President who's qualified to lead.

I want my country back, and I'm voting for John McCain.

[Doozie870]

I am leaning towards McCain at this juncture. No disrespect, but the middle east is childs play compared to what is going to happen in the Orient in particular with China.

[Dr. Jet]

........the middle east is childs play compared to what is going to happen in the Orient in particular with China.

[hebner]

It truly is a great barnyard -



"Cluck, cluck", said the little red hen.....



She called all of her barnyard neighbors together and said, 'If we plant this wheat, we shall have bread to eat. Who will help me plant it?'' Not I,' said the cow. 'Not I,' said the duck. 'Not I,' said the pig. 'Not I,' said the goose. 'Then I will do it by myself,' said the little red hen, and so she did.



The wheat grew very tall and ripened into golden grain. 'Who will help me reap my wheat?' asked the little red hen. 'Not I,' said the duck. 'Out of my classification,' said the pig. 'I'd lose my seniority,' said the cow. 'I'd lose my unemployment compensation,' said the goose. 'Then I will do it by myself,' said the little red hen, and so she did.



At last, it came time to bake the bread. 'Who will help me bake the bread?' asked the little red hen. 'That would be overtime for me,' said the cow. 'I'd lose my welfare benefits,' said the duck. 'I'm a dropout and never learned how,' said the pig. 'If I'm to be the only helper, that's discrimination,' said the goose. 'Then I will do it by myself,' said the little red hen. She baked five loaves and held them up for all of her neighbors to see. They wanted some and, in fact, demanded a share. But the little red hen said, 'No! I shall eat all five loaves.'



'Excess profits!' cried the cow (Nancy Pelosi).

'Capitalist leech!' screamed the duck (Barbara Boxer).

'I demand equal rights!' yelled the goose (Jesse Jackson).

The pig just grunted in disdain (Ted Kennedy).



In addition, they all painted 'Unfair!' picket signs and marched around and around the little red hen, shouting obscenities. Then the farmer (Obama) came. He said to the little red hen, 'You must not be so greedy.' 'But I earned the bread,' said the little red hen. 'Exactly,' said Barack the farmer. 'That is what makes our free enterprise system so wonderful. Anyone in the barnyard can earn as much as he wants. But under our modern government regulations, the productive workers must divide the fruits of their labor with those who are lazy and idle.' And they all lived happily ever after, including the little red hen, who smiled and clucked, 'I am grateful, for now I truly understand.' But her neighbors became quite disappointed in her. She never again baked bread because she joined the 'party' and got her bread free. And all the Democrats smiled. 'Fairness' had been established. Individual initiative had died, but nobody noticed; perhaps no one cared...so long as there was free bread that 'the rich' were paying for. EPILOGUE Bill Clinton is getting $12 million for his memoirs. Hillary got $8 million for hers. That is $20 million for the memories from two people, who for eight years, repeatedly testified under oath, that they could not remember anything. IS THIS A GREAT BARNYARD OR WHAT

[Quicksilver]

Question

Am I the only one here that feels a bit alienated by this and several other threads. I really like this site, but honestly I wish I never read this thread. I know it doesnt violate terms of the forums but it's definitely not healthy for it. Hell, I'm undecided in this election to be honest, but if you're gonna throw info up let it be facts and not propaganda. Since that's essentially what it is, have you guys actually looked at Obama's tax plan. It's not really that bad, I feel it's exaggerated.


you guys all make over $600k?

[RCprince]

I make about 2 million lol.....Quick in the end it's all your decision and no one else is, do your research because in the end no matter who wins you are responsible for your life, surrogate politicians are given to much control over our lives. A man once said "Read everything, listen to everyone, but believe nothing unless you can prove it in your own research" the sad part about that is the latter of that statement is the reason we are in the financial crisis we are in, we vote for people and give them a 2, 4 and 6 year pass without any accountability. I think it's time for "Operation Clorox" clean house, the Senate, The Congress and The White House.

[Ctonez]

Question

Am I the only one here that feels a bit alienated by this and several other threads.

nope.

I really like this site, but honestly I wish I never read this thread. I know it doesnt violate terms of the forums but it's definitely not healthy for it. ... if you're gonna throw info up let it be facts and not propaganda.

...well stated Quicksilver.

[RCprince]

I am leaning towards McCain at this juncture. No disrespect, but the middle east is childs play compared to what is going to happen in the Orient in particular with China.

It's to late, Japan and China to name a few are buying up American Banks Debts. That means they will own your currency. Mayer Amschel Rothschild once said "Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes her laws." We are sleeping while our surrogate makes polices and law for us, BUSH senior told us about it in 1991, but we were blinded by the S&L Collapse"Neil Bush was a member of the board of directors of Denver-based Silverado Savings and Loan during the 1980s' larger Savings and Loan crisis. As his father was Vice President of the United States, his role in Silverado's failure was a focal point of publicity. According to a piece in Salon, Silverado's collapse cost taxpayers $1.3 billion in todays standards thats 2.3 billion" , a one world government, No national sovereignty, borderless countries. It's no longer US it's now 6.3 billion people and 1/5 of those people are from a nation buying up our debt.


You can check the current national Debt Here: http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/BPD...application=np

1. Japan owns $578.7 billion, or 22.1%.
2. China owns $506.5 billion, or 19.4%.
3. The United Kingdom owns $272.5 billion, or 10.4%.
4. The next category is oil exporters that own $164.3 billion or 6.3%. The oil exporters category includes Qatar, Oman, Kuwait, Iraq, Iran, Bahrain, Indonesia, Venezuela, and Eqcuador.


This is when it was 2.2 trillion, The national debt on August 25, 2008 totals $9,621,536,885,603.88 trillion







"History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling the money and its issuance."
James Madison (1751-1836), Father of the Constitution for the USA, 4th US President


"We shall have a World government, whether or not we like it. The only question is whether World government will be achieved by conquest or consent."
James Paul Warburg, February 17, 1950, before the U.S. Senate

"We are going to end up with world government. It's inevitable ... There's going to be conflict, coercion and consensus. That's all part of what will be required as we give birth to the first global civilization."
James Garrison, president, Gorbachev Foundation USA; quoted in The Daily Record, Dunn, NC, p.4 10/17/95

"In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happened, you can bet it was planned that way."
Franklin Delano Roosevelt (1882-1945), 32nd US President

"We are at present working discreetly with all our might to wrest this mysterious force called sovereignty out of the clutches of the local nation states of the world. All the time we are denying with our lips what we are doing with our hands."
Arnold Toynbee, "The Trend of International Affairs Since the War", International Affairs, November 1931, p. 809

"The owners and managers of the press determine which person, which facts, which version of the facts, and which ideas shall reach the public."
Commission On Freedom Of The Press

[Steven Vaccaro]

Question

Am I the only one here that feels a bit alienated by this and several other threads. I really like this site, but honestly I wish I never read this thread. I know it doesn't violate terms of the forums but it's definitely not healthy for it. Hell, I'm undecided in this election to be honest, but if you're gonna throw info up let it be facts and not propaganda. Since that's essentially what it is, have you guys actually looked at Obama's tax plan. It's not really that bad, I feel it's exaggerated.


you guys all make over $600k?

First let me say that policitcs is not a clean subject. There will always be poeple with differing oppinions. But we are all grownups. I for one have not read this thread for a while. I suggest you do the same. I have better things to do, than get caught up in a beef over the canidates.

[RCprince]

I for one don't understand why people get upset over politicians, It seems ludicrous to me, like sport teams , like they've siphoned our ability to do for self away from us...This morning I was listening to the News and Alaska senator who was indicted on charges of taking bribery and gifts from the oil companies was put back in office by 63 percent of the vote. I was told once "You wear what you buy". My thing is this, Educated yourself and your children the best way you know how and learn as much as you can, so somebody will need the knowledge you have in your head, because that's what it'll come down to.

[Ctonez]

First let me say that policitcs is not a clean subject. There will always be poeple with differing oppinions. But we are all grownups. I for one have not read this thread for a while. I suggest you do the same. I have better things to do, than get caught up in a beef over the canidates.

too true. good advice Steven.
I just popped-in yesterday after ignoring it for awhile. I think I'd rather not know what political group fellow boaters align with...doesn't affect my boat building or racing any.

[Steven Vaccaro]

I just popped-in yesterday after ignoring it for awhile. I think I'd rather not know what political group fellow boaters align with...doesn't affect my boat building or racing any.

I wont close it unless it gets bad. But I would ask if this one could just die on its own. It just doesn't go well with our "common" goal to enjoy our rc boating hobby.