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  • Raydee
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • May 2007
    • 1603

    #1

    Castle Hydra Firmware

    Ok something is funny with Castle's Hydra firmware and so far I am not the only one to notice it. I am hoping some of you guys can try a little experiment and see if its a software problem.
    Here is the deal, I set my boat up with the older version 1.3 firmware and ran my hull. With a 637 prop the boat ran pretty good. I decided to update my firmware to the latest 1.4 version and with the same setup the boat was very slow. Not only was the boat slow but everything was cold after a 2 min run. I ended up working my way all the way up to a 445 prop before the boat was as fast as it originally was with the old firmware and the 637 prop. Last night I decided to revert back to the older 1.3 firmware and run my boat again. I knew that it ran good on a small prop before so I threw on a 642 prop and ran it for about a min. It ran great but when I pulled it out of the water everything was much hotter than it ever ran in the past. The motor was about 138* the ESC was 150* and the cells were 135*. My lipo's have never been over 125* ever after longer runs. Now the big question is do I just run a smaller prop with the older firmware or run the new firmware with a larger diameter prop? Why is there such a difference between the two firmwares?
    If one of you guys would like to give it a try, run your boat on the normal prop that you like and then update to the new Firmware and see if the speed changes or not. Maybe it is just a problem with my Hydra or maybe there is a problem with the firmware. If you decide to try this let me know what you find so I can post this to Castle and see what they think. One thing to remember is Castle relies on the boaters for feedback and if there is a problem we need to let them know.
    Team Liquid Dash
  • Doug Smock
    Moderator
    • Apr 2007
    • 5272

    #2
    Thanks for the info Raydee. Please let us know what CC has to say.

    Doug
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    • Mich. Maniac
      Banned
      • Apr 2007
      • 1384

      #3
      The only thing that catches my eye is that it says initial HV hydra firmware. Is that what you have or just low voltage hydra?

      The 1.4 that is.

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      • Raydee
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • May 2007
        • 1603

        #4
        Yeah it is the Standard Hydra 120LV
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        • Eyekandyboats
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Apr 2007
          • 1921

          #5
          i agree Ray. i have done this with my boat.
          i ran 48mph on a 642 with 1.3.... i changed to 1.4 and i ran not even 43 mph.
          i proped up to a M445!!! and got 49.5 mph and then a 646 at about 54 mph.
          every thing is cool with 1.4 but the 445 and the 646 were about the same tep as the 1.3 on the 642... but why is the props so damn large
          1.3 is a much better system . don't know why but it is kinda annoying.. i would revert back to the 1.3 software. if only the CC240 hydra has not of fried...... due to no reason at all. cool temps all round the board.
          EYEKANDYGRAPHICS

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          • Raydee
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • May 2007
            • 1603

            #6
            I plan on bringing my Laptop to the pond tomorrow if the weather holds up and do some more testing.
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            • Flying Scotsman
              Fast Electric Adict!
              • Jun 2007
              • 5190

              #7
              Raydee, this is very interesting, it seems CC are limiting amp or voltage draw with there new firmware update.

              Douggie

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              • Raydee
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • May 2007
                • 1603

                #8
                Douggie, I thought that also but I would like to see if others notice the same thing. It is very possible that I just have a faulty controller.
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                • Flying Scotsman
                  Fast Electric Adict!
                  • Jun 2007
                  • 5190

                  #9
                  PS, I still have not updated and run 1.3 no problems

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                  • Flying Scotsman
                    Fast Electric Adict!
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 5190

                    #10
                    I hate to say this, is CC bumping up their cell and li-po ratings to placate many pis...d off boaters with an esc that does not meet advertised demands and then change the software.

                    Douggie

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                    • SweetAccord
                      Speed Passion
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 1302

                      #11
                      Sorry, you all are confusing me? The Castle Hydra 120 has no connections for any firmware upgrading? Am I missing something???

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                      • Jeepers
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • May 2007
                        • 1973

                        #12
                        Originally posted by SweetAccord
                        Sorry, you all are confusing me? The Castle Hydra 120 has no connections for any firmware upgrading? Am I missing something???

                        yep the Castle Link!

                        I have been wanting to try this but I dont have a lap top.................................... yes I do my dad has one, just remebered.
                        Last edited by Jeepers; 06-22-2008, 07:17 PM.

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                        • Doug Smock
                          Moderator
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 5272

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Flying Scotsman
                          PS, I still have not updated and run 1.3 no problems
                          Me too.
                          MODEL BOAT RACER
                          IMPBA President
                          District 13 Director 2011- present
                          IMPBA National Records Director 2009-2019
                          IMPBA 19887L CD
                          NAMBA 1169

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                          • Lakefrontlivin
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 176

                            #14
                            hydra 120 setup

                            Hi,
                            Just started programming my Hydra 120.
                            Should I use the 1.03v or the 1.04v. ?
                            Also what should I have for settings.?
                            I'm running this in a Viper Hydro with a 12L motor and 2S1P in series...
                            What should the low voltage shutoff be set at?
                            Thanx in advance...
                            Tom H.

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                            • Raydee
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • May 2007
                              • 1603

                              #15
                              Tom I send you a Email but I would stick with the 1.3 for now.
                              Set timing to normal, Cutoff at 3.3v per cell or 13.2 volts.
                              Team Liquid Dash

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