What motor for higher speed, castle 1515 or castle 1717?

[jasoncyclone]

That was a great explanation 6boost!

6boost, why do you call yourself that? Do you have a boosted 6 cylinder? I do..

[properchopper]

Kyle, WOW ! You just stated what I've been holding back saying. Kudos. And Kris, please know the frustration some of us experience when we see a well-intentioned new friend begin a project that has a high probability of negatives. What do we do ? Sit back and watch as you crash and burn ? Or maybe try to guide you into a more realistic direction ( and get slammed for butting in). I'll take the high road here and do what I can to see if I can save some of your time and money, and dislike me if you must. Taking the gloves off, know that :

The Genesis hull, like most Chinese graphic-intensive knockoffs of European products, is a low-budget construction. While looking sharp (with the marketing intention of being purchased by the "buy with your eyes" customer), is constructed with lightweight materials, has little reinforcement where it counts, and will have almost zero chance of remaining intact under duress. And please know with knowingness that cats achieving the speeds that you are wishing to run, will almost always experience blowovers, cartwheels and barrel rolls. Like Kyle experienced, there goes all that work and $$. So proceed if you must. I seriously wish you the best. And keep in mind the words of an early Bob Dylan song : " There's no success like failure, but failure's no success at all"

Oh, and Terry, you said you'd stay away. You must be a glutton for punishment. I like that (the glutton thing) Don't Go !!

Tony

[Flying Scotsman]

Agreed, if it was the OLD DOUGGIE who has now mellowed, I would have been banned.

Douggie

[properchopper]

Agreed, if it was the OLD DOUGGIE who has now mellowed, I would have been banned.

Douggie

C'mon Sir Douggie, what would life be if some of us wouldn't have the stones to stand up and remind others that "the Emperor has no clothes" ?

[Flying Scotsman]

LOL, and yes I am still a cranky old fart and I was upset on hearing of the death of Christopher Hitchens...what a great intellectual....and apologies to digress from the subject matter.

Douggie

[T.S.Davis]

No, I owe sk8onwater an apology. I'm sorry for typing like such a prick. To be honest my frustration isn't with you or your quest for 70. It's with the on-line community. It's like it has no conscience some times. The on-line community as a whole has no problem recommending setups to get you to any speed you can dream up. No concern for what you know, how you run, where you run. That silly setup I mentioned could get you to a hundred....in theory, on paper, in a perfect world of perfect balance, and perfect props, and candy canes, and gum drops. In reality the first flip and you'll have a yard sale inside the boat at best or it will just explode when it lands at worst. Call the diver. How have I helped you then?

I recognize that sk8 had some rc experience. Didn't sound like much FE experience though. Going 70 with an electric boat takes more than just power. It takes tweaking and adjusting. I'm not suggesting sk8 isn't capable of that. But I don't "KNOW" what he's capable of. Will the boat survive the third tumble with the strut adjusted a little off? Can't say, depends on how it lands but sketchy. 70 really gobbles up ponds quick, will he be running it on a nice safe pond or an open lake? I don't know. Is he a safety kind of guy? I don't know. At 70mph he better be because if not someone could get hurt. Maybe he is. I hope he is. I simply do not know. Neither do these guys that are recommending the setups to get him to 70 for his first brushless boat. I know guys I've been racing with for years that I wouldn't encourage to run 70 mph.

Sometimes I swear that the buffer of the Internet clouds peoples better judgement. On-line we'll spew out setups with no regard for where they're going to land. Boarders on irresponsible.

[6BOOST]

That was a great explanation 6boost!

6boost, why do you call yourself that? Do you have a boosted 6 cylinder? I do..

It's a very long story Jason but the general wash up of the explaination is yes lol. It started off as a number plate on my first boosted car about 13 years ago, which turned into my forum username as is common to use your vehicle number plate to do on automotive forums, then my business name and is now just ingrained in my life and who I am. Google 6boost turbo manifolds, I've never finished my website (always to busy) but you'll get the idea;-)

As far as recommending setups that are potentially dangerous TS, ultimately we have to assume the best of people. Hey he could drive like a mad man and do far more damage on his way home from the shops in his daily driven car, far more than a Rc boat, sure he has more experience driving a car, but the first time he ever drove it he didn't and still had the ability to do insurmountable damage with it. I've come to love OSE and it's many talented and information filled members, I've hit nearly 70mph in my first hour of RC boating with all the info on this site then nearly 80 in my rigger, we aren't all bad=) Hopefully Sk8 after the last 6-8 posts you feel everyone's love for the hobby and the desire to make sure you have a long life in FE boating, especially seeing as how your on a budget. We are all behind you, just wield the information at your own discretion, accidents happen to even the most experienced boaters, have a look at the "subbed 102mph mono thread", $2-3000 worth of damage in one crash, it's very easy at these speeds to break thing. Be sure to put up a build thread and let us all know how you go:-)

Regards, 6BOOST

[sk8onwater]

Thanks for the helpful info guys. The reason I had left boating before was that brushed electric was to slow and just not enjoyable. My gas car is a 60+ mph road car. I love it. We go to Lake of the Ozarks Shootout every summer and they have started doing a mini shootout which is no holds barred drag race. So that is my main purpose for that with a side of running it in the local pond an creek

[sundog]

Thanks for the helpful info guys. The reason I had left boating before was that brushed electric was to slow and just not enjoyable. My gas car is a 60+ mph road car. I love it. We go to Lake of the Ozarks Shootout every summer and they have started doing a mini shootout which is no holds barred drag race. So that is my main purpose for that with a side of running it in the local pond an creek

Yeah, I'm thinking of doing the Mini Shootout next year as well. The setup I suggested earlier is what I'll be running in my Genesis. Like Tony said it is a lightweight hull, and that can work for or against you. I'm hoping they will start the mini races earlier in the morning in future events, before the lake gets choppy. But I think the length, (low) weight and narrow beam of the Genesis will cut headwinds better and may be a winning combination at that SAW-esque event. We'll see!

[sk8onwater]

Cool. Maybe I'll see you down there. There are going to be three of us with similar boats.

[sk8onwater]

Cool. Maybe I'll see you down there. There are going to be three of us with similar boats. Should be a good time

[sk8onwater]

Sorry, drunk double posting

[twissted]

Here is my thoughts on the matter. get the 1717' it is easer to detune than it is to sqeeze power out of a motor. you can use smaller props and and lower voltage until the boat is at the point you want or you move on to another boat. If winter slows your build, it gives you time to bid on ebay for some great deals. You my want to look here as well. good deals can be had here as well.

[nobbiworld]

Twissted. Did you look at the date of this thread? Dead 2 years ago.