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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Scotsman View Post
    Hmm, I think there was a state called California and run by some Austrian guy who did not know where the zipper was on his trousers. I hate to say this but we depend on your austerity and as the leader in the world, but the wheels are falling off in your position to that honour.

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    Z Austrian should stick to movies and women and out of government..... Yaaaa?

    But that feeling is not limited to him.

    Moonbeam should stick to only movies. I don't want to see him in Govermnent or Women!

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    Do anybody's employers pay for your vacations besides your by week vacation pay? Why are the tax payers paying for Obamas outragouse vacations let him use his own money
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    Outrageous vacations? Thats funny. He must be the only pres. who's ever taken a trip. Oh, I know, his vacations are the reason for the debt, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sailr View Post
    The right has been making stuff up for years with the help of the radical news media and limbaugh, etc.
    Name some! Name some of these "made up stuff" that have had major impacts on our economy, and the tone in this country.

    And spare me the "WMD" claim... unless you want to convict the majority of Western Society of having been involved in that "lie"...

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    Alot of strange occurrences in the 911 deal too. All the war and loss of American lives for no good reason - to the tune of a trillion five a year. That would buy everyone in this country a new house and a Cadillac in the driveway.
    Bring our troops home and let them take on the border and the Mexican mob.
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    Why do some of you hate the rich? Are you succumbing to the divisions that the socialists play out to keep us fighting amongst ourselves? Some very obvious facts glare in the face of what alot are aware of. The rich pay FICA (you know social security, medicare) yet they will always make too much to gather a cent of what they are paying in. Yet you condomn them for the tax rate they pay? I thought we were a Democracy? You dont bad mouth the poor, who pay nothing, yet garner federal dollars, and will continue for probably for the rest of their lifes. (Thats a 100% liability BTW) Where is that fair? Because they have nothing? What measuring stick do you use? I find this most disquieting. You use one standard for one type but openly prejudice against another? Open minds allow for all the facts. Not just the ones that fit.

    While we are on the subject of taxing the rich lets look at some history. http://www.ctj.org/pdf/regcg.pdf And we have allowed them to benefit from market conditions, but thats what should be fixed by the Government. So its the Federal Governments job to get busy and tax them appropriately. When you have the ultra rich like Warren Buffet speaking about the disparity openly, there must be some basis to reconsider our current position. The tax breaks for the rich should sunset soon. But as well we should consider that they pay more then their fare share and should not be demonized or put at arms length as if they have no rights either.

    There is plenty of data about giving the rich tax credits or lower rates to stimulate business growth. But the problem is more complex as the rich have discovered its is far less risky to make a modest amount of money by leveraging debt or stock market investments by making bullish or bearish market choices. We have allowed them to circle their wagons and just put up with the occasional indians riding by tossing in a few arrows. If I can wax poetically.

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    There is no one thing that caused the deficite and there is no one sulotion to fix it either, but when your country is in the *!***!***!***!** state its in and all you see is the lower town and state workers teachers and so on being layed off and your so called leader going on 2 billion dollar vacations on the tax payers tab. How many of those lost jobs could have been saved with that 2 billion? Rumdog you have every right to your opion of obama as do I dont get me wrong Obama isn't the only problem this goes back to regan but OBAMA has done nothing except cause more problems.
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    http://damianmann.wordpress.com/2008...-accomplished/

    http://www.democraticunderground.com...ss=132x4578207

    Take a good look and maybe some of us may learn something!
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    That the Smartest people are full of doubts while the stupid ones are full of confidence.::tt2

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    Quote Originally Posted by mappo View Post
    http://damianmann.wordpress.com/2008...-accomplished/

    http://www.democraticunderground.com...ss=132x4578207

    Take a good look and maybe some of us may learn something!
    Reading is fundamental.
    Thank you so much. You are right. Reading is fundamental to understanding what this person is responsible for aiding with. Obama did indeed aid voter fraud. This article is a very obvious representation of what he believes. http://www.democraticunderground.com...ss=132x4578207

    ACORN was to be charged with voter fraud by the DOJ and members of the organization were supposed to be charged with known and intentional fraudulent intent in taking of taxpayer monies to commit such crimes. There was a very nice 60 minutes story on this topic. And Obama was involved with this organization. It cant be proved he was aware of the groups methods and activities. But none the less. He made sure that they got funded, to lie/steal/cheat the American taxpayer out of money to commit feloneous acts against the American population in creating voting fraud. Nice little piece of American history to add to his accomplishments.

    BTW ACORN is reformed under a new name as a title 501 recipient of taxpayer funds to continue its mission of gathering new voters for the Democratic National Commitee. After all. It wouldnt be fair for voters to have a mind of their own and decide to vote on their own behalf. Nope. Lets take taxpayer money and make a choice for them so they are not left without a voice. Like I said. Great article.

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    As a Scot/Canadian who started this debacle and has viewed all responses, your country is in a fisccal mess, fix it or we will all suuffer, end of epistle

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    I will give you an example. I wanted to buy a top of the line Dell pc today and I had a few questions. I was sent to Romania, Indonisia and India, each time I asked for the corporate number for Dell and every number issued to me got me back to the same you know what..press 1 for English etc.

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    I don't hate the rich, but there is absolutely no reason they need tax cuts.

    Obama and ACORN. That's one example of right wing propaganda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumdog View Post
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    Obama and ACORN. That's one example of right wing propaganda.
    WOW! I suppose the comments by Maxine Waters are just completely hype as well? Or the corrupt actions she too to direct stimulus funds to a failing bank that her HUSBAND owns?? Or the White-House involvement in this Solyndra scandle??? Or all the FACTs showing how data has been manipulated to favor a "Man-Made Global Warming" ruse??

    I need some of that Kool-Aide you are drinking... Life would be Gooooo-ooooo---ooood!

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    What about Newt for Pres...? In my opinion, the most Qualified Rep Candidate, and was Speaker during the Clinton era (The good ole' days) He has the experience and the insider connections to get the job done.

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    Hey guys, I'm trying to have some fun.
    There is no reason to bring politics, religion, philosphy to this forum.
    Write your newspaper editor, facebook, twitter, political blogs instead

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    Quote Originally Posted by RCKong View Post
    What about Newt for Pres...? In my opinion, the most Qualified Rep Candidate, and was Speaker during the Clinton era (The good ole' days) He has the experience and the insider connections to get the job done.
    Unfortunately, while he WOULD tear Mr. Obama up in a debate and with his ideas, he has a LOT of skeletons in the closet. Doesn't help that he made that damn commercial sitting next to Nancy Pelosi and perpetuating the myth of the "Global Warming" community...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RCKong View Post
    Alot of strange occurrences in the 911 deal too. All the war and loss of American lives for no good reason - to the tune of a trillion five a year. That would buy everyone in this country a new house and a Cadillac in the driveway.
    Bring our troops home and let them take on the border and the Mexican mob.
    I love the bring the troops home BS why do you think we can strike anywhere at anytime its because of our established supply routes from having bases strategically placed all over the world. There is an old saying strategy wins battles Logistics wins wars. Before you think your going to argue with me about military logistics I have been in the Navy for 14 years working logistics for everything from Haiti relief to forward deployed ships and MEU 22, and 24. People say bring them home because the dont understand what we are there for.

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    Interesting, I have a profound admiration for you Yanks but at times you have made bad political descions......did not enter the first or second world wars at the start of these declarations by other countries, but your final contributions were huge.....Vietnam was a disaster.....Irag also....Afganhistan also as have many countries discovered, that nation is corrupt and let them fight their own tribal wars. The United Nations is a mess and I am glad that I am too old fight now but my sons and other family members do and I respect their dedication to descions they do not make....they follow orders!!

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    Canada may be a good place to live once the US folds up, you taking in new citizens?

    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Scotsman View Post
    Interesting, I have a profound admiration for you Yanks but at times you have made bad political descions......did not enter the first or second world wars at the start of these declarations by other countries, but your final contributions were huge.....Vietnam was a disaster.....Irag also....Afganhistan also as have many countries discovered, that nation is corrupt and let them fight their own tribal wars. The United Nations is a mess and I am glad that I am too old fight now but my sons and other family members do and I respect their dedication to descions they do not make....they follow orders!!

    Douggie

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    The writing is on the wall for the USA, we are finished. The establishment has destroyed the country and it's a matter of time before the Gov. is forced to take everything from everyone. I am not sure if we will have a revolution or just turn into a 3rd world country, time will tell us.

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    It will depend on what the folks on welfoare, social security, disability and government employees will do when the taxed have no more to give. Will it be like Greece?

    Quote Originally Posted by sjslhill View Post
    The writing is on the wall for the USA, we are finished. The establishment has destroyed the country and it's a matter of time before the Gov. is forced to take everything from everyone. I am not sure if we will have a revolution or just turn into a 3rd world country, time will tell us.

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    "When you rob Peter to pay Paul, you get Paul's vote"...

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    You guys all know we're going to have 4 more years of OH Bummer right? Newt has a ton of baggage despite being right more often than not. His delivery is harsh on some topics too. Romney is an easy kill for the class warefare tactics of the left. They get hung up on the percentage he pays. The claim is that the 13% he pays is less than the 15% his secretary pays. Apparently mathmatics works different on the left.

    I am always shocked when people I think I know are wrong headed when it comes to politics, finance and an even basic understanding of economics. Ignorance got us Obama and ignorance is going to give us more of the same.

    The taxed wont run out of money to "give". They'll run out of money to TAKE. Canada, are you ready for a massive influx of capital when those that still have anything cut bate and flee for their lives? You guys will have the only safe harbor that even resembles freedom.

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