Obama the worst president ever ?

[Flying Scotsman]

What do you guys think of this twit and his latest plan to save jobs in the USA.

Douggie

[sailr]

At least it's a plan. What do the Republicans have to offer? NOTHING!

[detox]

Can't
Understand
Normal
Thinking

[T.S.Davis]

Sometimes I wish we could dig a hole and push DC into it. Can't trust any of them bastards. What?!......I can dream.

[m4a1usr]

What do you guys think of this twit and his latest plan to save jobs in the USA.

Douggie

He's desperate Douggie. Plain and simple. Theres only 14 months to go before the next election and he has a dismal record, so to try and attempt a re election bid he is going to have to dig deep. This is but one idea he has to get behind. The jobs issue here in the states in numero uno to the grass roots folks. He cant do whats right for America. His puppet masters wont let him. Too bad because even though I would never vote for him, I actually think he is a caring President. Under the right conditions, this guy could have shined bright. He just took charge of a sinking ship without the right knowledge or experience to bring home the bacon.

But I took notice in his speech last night how he repeatedly mentioned taking this new package of his to the "People" around the country. Sound like re election dribble? You bet your news polls it was. This is his last shot at proving his worth. He has to stay in the headlines in a positive spin. This will get him by for awhile as he has the blame card to still play.


John

[Flying Scotsman]

I had great hope for this man but he, well fell off the rails...an orator..yes ....a president NO

Douggie

[dmwilson09]

Everytime the Republicans have a plan, it get shot down because the democrats think its to extreme and a month or five down the road something finally gets passed that does not come close to the original plan. One day America will learn that you are going to have to step on a few toes to get something done that will better America. (Ex. - Republicans wanted to reform welfare, medicaid, and some other entitlement programs in the last debt bill, programs that kill our budget every year and the dems wanted nothing to do with it. Why, was it to extreme or do the dems know that if a bill like that gets passed, many of their constituents may be effected. Many of their voters will have to get off the couch and find a job because that check isnt coming anymore and heaven forbid if that ever happens.) Seems like today, we are to worried about hurting someones feelings vs. putting together a plan that might do some good.

[Eodman]

Not for nothing - I don't think he's done a good job! But who makes the laws ----- there's 250 some other clowns in DC that can't/Won't work as team either!

Me - come election time my vote is going to anyone that is not an incumbent! Rookies can't screw it up any worse than the present a**holes have!

[murphy3428]

Time to clean house ALL OF THEM NEED TO GO........

[sanyijr]

545 vs. 300,000,000 People
-By Charlie Reese

Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them.

Have you ever wondered, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are against deficits, WHY do we have deficits?

Have you ever wondered, if all the politicians are against inflation and high taxes, WHY do we have inflation and high taxes?

You and I don't propose a federal budget. The President does.

You and I don't have the Constitutional authority to vote on appropriations. The House of Representatives does.

You and I don't write the tax code, Congress does.

You and I don't set fiscal policy, Congress does.

You and I don't control monetary policy, the Federal Reserve Bank does.

One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one President, and nine Supreme Court justices equates to 545 human beings out of the 300 million are directly, legally, morally, and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country.

I excluded the members of the Federal Reserve Board because that problem was created by the Congress. In 1913, Congress delegated its Constitutional duty to provide a sound currency to a federally chartered, but private, central bank.

I excluded all the special interests and lobbyists for a sound reason. They have no legal authority. They have no ability to coerce a senator, a congressman, or a President to do one cotton-picking thing. I don't care if they offer a politician $1 million dollars in cash. The politician has the power to accept or reject it. No matter what the lobbyist promises, it is the legislator's responsibility to determine how he votes.

Those 545 human beings spend much of their energy convincing you that what they did is not their fault. They cooperate in this common con regardless of party.

What separates a politician from a normal human being is an excessive amount of gall. No normal human being would have the gall of a Speaker, who stood up and criticized the President for creating deficits. The President can only propose a budget. He cannot force the Congress to accept it.

The Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land, gives sole responsibility to the House of Representatives for originating and approving appropriations and taxes. Who is the speaker of the House? John Boehner. He is the leader of the majority party. He and fellow House members, not the President, can approve any budget they want. If the President vetoes it, they can pass it over his veto if they agree to.

It seems inconceivable to me that a nation of 300 million cannot replace 545 people who stand convicted -- by present facts -- of incompetence and irresponsibility. I can't think of a single domestic problem that is not traceable directly to those 545 people. When you fully grasp the plain truth that 545 people exercise the power of the federal government, then it must follow that what exists is what they want to exist.

If the tax code is unfair, it's because they want it unfair.

If the budget is in the red, it's because they want it in the red.

If the Army & Marines are in Iraq and Afghanistan it's because they want them in Iraq and Afghanistan ...

If they do not receive social security but are on an elite retirement plan not available to the people, it's because they want it that way.

There are no insoluble government problems.

Do not let these 545 people shift the blame to bureaucrats, whom they hire and whose jobs they can abolish; to lobbyists, whose gifts and advice they can reject; to regulators, to whom they give the power to regulate and from whom they can take this power. Above all, do not let them con you into the belief that there exists disembodied mystical forces like "the economy," "inflation," or "politics" that prevent them from doing what they take an oath to do.

Those 545 people, and they alone, are responsible.

They, and they alone, have the power.

They, and they alone, should be held accountable by the people who are their bosses.

Provided the voters have the gumption to manage their own employees...

We should vote all of them out of office and clean up their mess!

[sanyijr]

What do you guys think of this twit and his latest plan to save jobs in the USA.

Douggie

Douggie, Now I understand why you pose this question. You want to know how many jobs the US will be moving to Canada as part of the New Jobs Plan. I would think Canadians are thrilled. The Chinease sure are!

Or is this just too much of a low blow.

[Flying Scotsman]

Well, we will welcome your technical and other skills but not your politicians , as they can all jump into the Boston harbour.

Douggie

[sailr]

nice comment. typical

[sailr]

Anyone who pays attention to Charlie Reese has poop for brains!

545 vs. 300,000,000 People
-By Charlie Reese

Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them.

Have you ever wondered, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are against deficits, WHY do we have deficits?

Have you ever wondered, if all the politicians are against inflation and high taxes, WHY do we have inflation and high taxes?

You and I don't propose a federal budget. The President does.

You and I don't have the Constitutional authority to vote on appropriations. The House of Representatives does.

You and I don't write the tax code, Congress does.

You and I don't set fiscal policy, Congress does.

You and I don't control monetary policy, the Federal Reserve Bank does.

One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one President, and nine Supreme Court justices equates to 545 human beings out of the 300 million are directly, legally, morally, and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country.

I excluded the members of the Federal Reserve Board because that problem was created by the Congress. In 1913, Congress delegated its Constitutional duty to provide a sound currency to a federally chartered, but private, central bank.

I excluded all the special interests and lobbyists for a sound reason. They have no legal authority. They have no ability to coerce a senator, a congressman, or a President to do one cotton-picking thing. I don't care if they offer a politician $1 million dollars in cash. The politician has the power to accept or reject it. No matter what the lobbyist promises, it is the legislator's responsibility to determine how he votes.

Those 545 human beings spend much of their energy convincing you that what they did is not their fault. They cooperate in this common con regardless of party.

What separates a politician from a normal human being is an excessive amount of gall. No normal human being would have the gall of a Speaker, who stood up and criticized the President for creating deficits. The President can only propose a budget. He cannot force the Congress to accept it.

The Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land, gives sole responsibility to the House of Representatives for originating and approving appropriations and taxes. Who is the speaker of the House? John Boehner. He is the leader of the majority party. He and fellow House members, not the President, can approve any budget they want. If the President vetoes it, they can pass it over his veto if they agree to.

It seems inconceivable to me that a nation of 300 million cannot replace 545 people who stand convicted -- by present facts -- of incompetence and irresponsibility. I can't think of a single domestic problem that is not traceable directly to those 545 people. When you fully grasp the plain truth that 545 people exercise the power of the federal government, then it must follow that what exists is what they want to exist.

If the tax code is unfair, it's because they want it unfair.

If the budget is in the red, it's because they want it in the red.

If the Army & Marines are in Iraq and Afghanistan it's because they want them in Iraq and Afghanistan ...

If they do not receive social security but are on an elite retirement plan not available to the people, it's because they want it that way.

There are no insoluble government problems.

Do not let these 545 people shift the blame to bureaucrats, whom they hire and whose jobs they can abolish; to lobbyists, whose gifts and advice they can reject; to regulators, to whom they give the power to regulate and from whom they can take this power. Above all, do not let them con you into the belief that there exists disembodied mystical forces like "the economy," "inflation," or "politics" that prevent them from doing what they take an oath to do.

Those 545 people, and they alone, are responsible.

They, and they alone, have the power.

They, and they alone, should be held accountable by the people who are their bosses.

Provided the voters have the gumption to manage their own employees...

We should vote all of them out of office and clean up their mess!

[Flying Scotsman]

Douggie beeing Douggie and I trust that no animals were hurt in this discourse.

Love you all

Douggie

[detox]

This tread has been locked.

[sanyijr]

This tread has been locked.

What do you mean locked? Editted for sure.....

Yikes Sailr, what's with the name calling? I was actually trying to point out things I thought most people could agree with.... Just trying to be light hearted.

[sanyijr]

What do you guys think of this twit and his latest plan to save jobs in the USA.

Douggie

Douggie, you testing the proven fact of what happens when you throw a lit match on a puddle of gasoline by chance? It still goes

[Jacked1]

Well I just lost $2500 bucks today because the airforce is cutting spending so they are taking away my tuition assistance I have been working 40 hours a week for all summer. Didn't he say something about wanting more engineers last night? All the STEP students in the Air Force Reasearch Lab are also losing their jobs pretty soon.

Is welfare getting cut at all? I might need to go beg for money in the poor neighborhoods in order to pay for school.

[ilovethis]

can anybody remember g w bush when Obama came to office the state was messed up all ready he was trying to fix thing's so he's not fully the blame

[m4a1usr]

Well I just lost $2500 bucks today because the airforce is cutting spending so they are taking away my tuition assistance I have been working 40 hours a week for all summer. Didn't he say something about wanting more engineers last night? All the STEP students in the Air Force Reasearch Lab are also losing their jobs pretty soon.

Is welfare getting cut at all? I might need to go beg for money in the poor neighborhoods in order to pay for school.

I hope you dont have to stoop to that level. But you are right. The cuts are not going to be fair if they truely are appearent to most of us. My job has been blessed but a recent addition of young Engineering students like yourself, who bring better learning practices, better engineering tools and current technology as well as new blood to the dieing herd of us old timers who have been in place now for decades without any interns to train and pass on the "corporate knowledge". We need you far more then you need us. You want a career. We need to pass on the experience we gained when dollars where good and we had time and staffing to gain what we have as people.

What bothers me most about Obamas latest jobs proposal is he wants to extend the employee tax contribution. Yes folks. Thats our social security retirement fund taking it in the shorts! But wait. It gets better. Last time (earlier this year) Obama just cut 2% out of the 6.2% self contributed SS benefits. Now he want not only your 3.1% contribution but your employers 3.1% contibution as well. So you young guys listen carefully.

This dipstick is cheating you out of your future retirement benefits by reducing member AND employer contributions. By 50% in todays dollars. Who knows what the hell that will be in 40 or 50 years? My guesstimate is something like 250 to 300% when you compound the interest over decades. What is this idiot doing to the average worker? Is he so blind by power he doesnt care about us lowly dirty low lifes who count on some form of federal assistance in our last few years of hanging on to these mortal coils?

John

[dana]

you dont get a bad hamburger at Mcdonalds, and blame ronald mcdonald.

[m4a1usr]

you dont get a bad hamburger at Mcdonalds, and blame ronald mcdonald.

Maybe I'm taking your comment out of context, and I appologize if thats true but Barack Obama is the cook, who is making my burger, he is adding my lettuce/toppings/wrapping on what I paid for. SO if your anology is as I surmise. He is at fault for the quality of the burger I wanted and did not deliver. He has no right to screw my children or my grandchildren. His failure to predict the future economic trends that are obvious to even a 10th grade level educated minor (yes I am being generous considering academic and regional requirements of our nations education systems) demonstrate he wants quick fixes to satisfy those attentive only to their I-Phone, or Blackberry, or I-pad or whatever electronic devices America has strapped to their intellictual arses on a regular schedule for their "reality check" of the day.

Who gathers bonofide/accurate/acceptable decision making information off a mobile device that can have profound/ serious effects based upon 20 or 30 seconds of button pushing acceptance of data? Didnt we teach unbiased research in some form or manner in the early education of our chlidren? Or did they gleefully quit making sober, honest, rational decisions because (like lab rats) they became ingrained to accept a certain manner to which information was passed along? Media is part of the problem. And Obummer knows this. How the hell do you think he got elected the first time. Dont you remember his words? "We have greater information in our hands today then ever before. Use it".

Now leap forward to today. What did you get with that perfect, unbiased, foolproof, self promoting verbal diarrea spouted by liars? Take a lesson off what happened. Dont let them con you again. Obama wants to invigorate our America again. His testiment of "lets join forces and move forward in making a better America". His words echoeing, We cannot be divided. We can make it better if we all get onboard.

A failed prophecy cannot recover. My gawd America! His ability and actions have already been demonstrated. Dont go quitely into that night. Vote more along the lines against the 2 party system. Both the Rep's and Dem's dont care about us low lifes. They create the problems that divide us. Toss all the idiots out!

John

[Flying Scotsman]

I have great admiraion for many of your citizens, but you have also a mad bunch of idots. You are a great country..... keep it that way with commen sense in your daily endeavours.

Douggie

[sjslhill]

Solyndra is the company of the year for Obama........

[m4a1usr]

Solyndra is the company of the year for Obama........

Yeah. To the tune of 535,000.00 dollars left for the American Taxpayer to absorb. A half a BILLION dollars down the drain for one of his buddies to "make his dream" come true. Another fleecing of America by the Elite.

John

[RCKong]

LOOK !!! OBAMA was handed the keys to the Titanic after it hit the iceberg. The republican leadership drove us of the cliff with made up wars, letting wall street do whatever they want,and Oil Co's do what ever they want .Now we are asking for more of the same ITS CRAZY !!! I would not hire Rick Perry for a used car salesman job, let alone Pres, but yet here he is the leading rep for president... SAD every time the economy starts to get better, the oil Co's. jack up the price of fuel - for no real reason - and kill any hopes of small biz doing any hiring. Small biz is the heart and soul of the US economy, and revolves around fuel and shipping usually. Any would be profits go right into Big oils pocket crushing any chance for a recovery. Over 80,000,000,000 in record profits to big oil last quarter, while the economy flounders, and the rich can't be rich enough according to the republicans. Why can't the rich pay their fair share ?

RCK

[sjslhill]

I got a suggestion as to why jobs are down........do this.
Add up all the taxes that you pay, here are some of mine
23% on cell phone bill
6% sales tax
state income tax
county occupational tax
library tax
county property tax on cars and home (schools)
city property tax
ss tax
cable tax
internet access tax
gasoline tax
capital gains tax
death tax
taxes when you stay at the hotel
taxes on car and home insurance

Before people were living on added money from the housing bubble and now it's gone.
We are taxed to death people and have nothing left to buy with, it's just that simple

The wars are stupid, not drilling for oil here is stupid. We have natural gas. Wind and Sun energy when it makes sense, running it on tax money is stupid.

Schools and public workers have been promised the universe for retirement and benefits and no money was saved to pay for it. Now us others have to pay for ours and re-pay for theirs all over again. You can't have people retiring when they are 50 either, all stupid

[sjslhill]

Don't give me Obama this and that, the guy is a big Government moron that can't lead anything......Perry is not leading anything, the other crook is.

[sjslhill]

Ain't it interesting that the Democrat rich have reason to be rich and others don't.

Yeah. To the tune of 535,000.00 dollars left for the American Taxpayer to absorb. A half a BILLION dollars down the drain for one of his buddies to "make his dream" come true. Another fleecing of America by the Elite.

John