540 XL vs 580 L vs neu castle vs neu

[video200]

getting realy currius.

how much of a difference are there between the motors ? and is the difference in chost realy worth it for a sport runner ?

with OSE beeing out of the 12 XL i was looking for earlyer i had time to explore the alternatives. but are the chost of a neu 1515 worth it compared to a 540 XL ?

klaus

ps for my mutilation of the english language

[Raydee]

The 1515 Neu motor will run cooler than a Feigao and will run for a longer time on a charge because they are very efficient. The Castle/Neu motors are a little cheaper and I was told there is just a minor performance difference between them and a actual Neu 1515. For the money I would go with the Castle/Neu if you are a sport runner.

The 12XL motor and the Neu 1515 don't compare, the 1515 is 2200KV so keep that in mind too, the 7XL motor is more of a comparison to the 1515. I have owned both and while the 7XL was fast it rn way hotter and could not turn a larger prop like the Neu could.

[Jeff Wohlt]

I am kinda liking these.

http://www.lightflightrc.com/HTML/pr...36-65&75mm.htm

[Raydee]

Hmm I bought one of the ARC motors for my flying wing, from what I hear they are nice motors.

[video200]

The 1515 Neu motor will run cooler than a Feigao and will run for a longer time on a charge because they are very efficient. The Castle/Neu motors are a little cheaper and I was told there is just a minor performance difference between them and a actual Neu 1515. For the money I would go with the Castle/Neu if you are a sport runner.

The 12XL motor and the Neu 1515 don't compare, the 1515 is 2200KV so keep that in mind too, the 7XL motor is more of a comparison to the 1515. I have owned both and while the 7XL was fast it rn way hotter and could not turn a larger prop like the Neu could.

i was looking at the 1515 1.5y is also 1500kv so they should be able to compare in rpm but the neu is a better motor for shure. but is it worth 3X as much.

[Raydee]

Depends on the person I guess, they are to me but not to others. After running Neu's in my hulls I can't see running anything else.

[video200]

i havent been running any of the high end motors. but i am connsidering it more and more.
and a neu seems like a better choise then the german motors even with the low € now a days

[Steven Vaccaro]

The castle motors have been doing real well in boats.

[Make-a-Wake]

"but is it worth 3X as much."

Considering i fried a 580L and a KB45, then went to a 15271Y with a larger prop, im gonna say yes, they are worth it...........stupid low temps and lots of power.

[Raydee]

Hey Steven, any plans for a cooling jacket for the 1717 motors?

[video200]

The castle motors have been doing real well in boats.

but OSE dont reccomend them over 4s lipo
but sinse you "online" steven. when do you exspect the neu 1515 1.5y to be back in store ? ( and the 12 XL that i was originaly looking for when i strayed of the budget path )

[Steven Vaccaro]

"but is it worth 3X as much."

Considering i fried a 580L and a KB45, then went to a 15271Y with a larger prop, im gonna say yes, they are worth it...........stupid low temps and lots of power.

But please remember to make apples to apples comparisons. A 580L or kb45 cant be and are not advertised to be in the same power range as a 1527.

[Steven Vaccaro]

Hey Steven, any plans for a cooling jacket for the 1717 motors?

There is a sample running around somewhere. I'm pretty sure its a forum user that has it

[video200]

hopfully a 1515 should be more then able to push a DF 33 and\or a 26" drifter s

[Steven Vaccaro]

but OSE dont reccomend them over 4s lipo
but sinse you "online" steven. when do you exspect the neu 1515 1.5y to be back in store ? ( and the 12 XL that i was originaly looking for when i strayed of the budget path )

Which one am I saying is 4s that you want to run 6s on?

Neu motors arrive all the time, there isnt a date given to me when I order.

[Make-a-Wake]

But please remember to make apples to apples comparisons. A 580L or kb45 cant be and are not advertised to be in the same power range as a 1527.

Yes, i agree.................

[video200]

i was thinking 6s on both.
running a 13xl in my df now and it comes back around 95-104 so i figured it was ready for a little upgrade :)

[JMSCARD]

I have (3) neu 1515 1.5y's with very low use.... I could be coaxed into selling one.... I just put one in my Toysport triton but I also have one in my Aeromarine Titan and my mean machine... all 1515 1.5y's:) they are good motors for sure.. heres one of em' in my triton:)

[sailr]

Has anyone ever actually tried one of the ARC motors? The guy selling them makes claims they are as good as a NEU. Hard to believe.

I am kinda liking these.

http://www.lightflightrc.com/HTML/pr...36-65&75mm.htm

[crabstick]

i was thinking the same Sailr, they look like a neu, but whats inside??

[m4a1usr]

i was thinking the same Sailr, they look like a neu, but whats inside??

Me too. I bet they are 2 pole, either way they are the size of 1415. Not a 1515 Neu.

John

[sailr]

Also considering that when the 580L fails it wipes out your ESC! One of my friends had two 580's take out two castle escs! I had one take out a Seaking 180. Problem is they run really hot, demagnetize, and then demand too many amps and the esc fails. By the time your figure up the carnage, the NEU 1527 is cheap!

"but is it worth 3X as much."

Considering i fried a 580L and a KB45, then went to a 15271Y with a larger prop, im gonna say yes, they are worth it...........stupid low temps and lots of power.

[video200]

if the 1527 is cheap then the 1515 and 1521 im connsidering would be a bargen

[Make-a-Wake]

Me too. I bet they are 2 pole, either way they are the size of 1415. Not a 1515 Neu.

John

They list them as 4 pole on the site. They may be just a tad better than a feigao, or run just a bit cooler.............maybe not. Lets let somebody run one and post results.

[BHChieftain]

I just swapped out a feigao 540 9XL (1850ish KV) for a neu 1515 1.5y (1500 KV). The feigao had a bad bearing, and ran hot. The neu runs nice and cool...

I also noticed that on the feigao, there was quite a bit of forward/backward play in the rotor, whereas in the neu there was virtually none.

-Chief

[Make-a-Wake]

Hey Chief..............since you have ran both, how does the 1515(40 x 68mm) compare to an XL Feigao(36x74mm) performance-wise?

[m4a1usr]

They list them as 4 pole on the site. They may be just a tad better than a feigao, or run just a bit cooler.............maybe not. Lets let somebody run one and post results.

With 4 poles that means the rotor is most likely a laminated design. If the iron is quality as well as the magnets then they might be worth a try for someone trying to get performance on a budget. The problem is at the price they are listed for you can spend just a few bux more and get a real Castle/Neu. Not to mention you could try one of those xerun motors (1515 1.5Y castle/neu copies) for $28 less. At $120 the arc doesnt seem worth the bother.

John

[BakedMopar]

Did anyone actually have success running a 580l? I keep hearing sailr and rummy having problem but I'm sure there's more than two people running these.

[DISAR]

I have a 580 8L comparing in same hulls with castle and neu 1515, the 580 runs hotter and has a prop limit. if you don't ask too much and you find its limit you are ok. In my opinion the castle or even the hpi tork really worth the money, small difference with the 1515 but the 1515 has more kv options.
video 200 which hull?

[video200]

DF 33 cyber and\or drifter S
both on 6s