Project Genesis!

[Make-a-Wake]

I would hope that the motor could run at 35k rpms which is what it would turn unloaded on 8s. Comments on the motor on hobby king has people running it on 10-12s in planes. However, i'm not buying into it running over 40k.......its just not a high quality motor.... sort of mid-grade. Make sure you prop it on the low side and use a full water jacket......the long one.

http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...ose-mjacket-XL

[FighterCat57]

I would hope that the motor could run at 35k rpms which is what it would turn unloaded on 8s. Comments on the motor on hobby king has people running it on 10-12s in planes. However, i'm not buying into it running over 40k.......its just not a high quality motor.... sort of mid-grade. Make sure you prop it on the low side and use a full water jacket......the long one.

http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...ose-mjacket-XL

Ah, so volt rating is in part based on Kv (max RPM).

This could be a good cheapie to experiment with and most likely blow up at some point. Doesn't say max watts, so we'll see just how many watts can be squeezed out of it!

I'm guessing using a short water jacket on an XL motor would allow some parts of the windings to overheat while other parts stay within operating range?
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[Make-a-Wake]

Ah, so volt rating is in part based on Kv (max RPM).

This could be a good cheapie to experiment with and most likely blow up at some point. Doesn't say max watts, so we'll see just how many watts can be squeezed out of it!

I'm guessing using a short water jacket on an XL motor would allow some parts of the windings to overheat while other parts stay within operating range?

Somewhat i guess................ If it was a 5000kv motor it wouldnt have a 6s rating, whereas a 1500 most likely would.

Probably in the 1000 watt range.

[FighterCat57]

1k watts doesn't seem worth while or worth the extra $ for the setup. Was a fun idea though!



Back to the 1521/1.5d setup; I'm thinking that this would make a great setup for the Genesis:
6s2p 60c 10k, T180a, m445/447, possibly x452
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[tiqueman]

I think your esc is only going to handle the 445. And Id imagine even at that, your esc is going to be about at its max in every way possible. Im not saying dont try it, but Id ease into it (prop wise) and see what happens..

1k watts doesn't seem worth while or worth the extra $ for the setup. Was a fun idea though!



Back to the 1521/1.5d setup; I'm thinking that this would make a great setup for the Genesis:
6s2p 60c 10k, T180a, m445/447, possibly x452

[FighterCat57]

I think your esc is only going to handle the 445. And Id imagine even at that, your esc is going to be about at its max in every way possible. Im not saying dont try it, but Id ease into it )prop wise) and see what happens..

Hmm. That was the Castle recommended starting prop. Perhaps I'll start with a 40, 42 then see how it goes from there... Thanks!
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[tiqueman]

Hmm. That was the Castle recommended starting prop. Perhaps I'll start with a 40, 42 then see how it goes from there... Thanks!

On the motor though right? The motor will have no problems swinging a 445 at all.... but your esc may not like it, and certainly wont like anything bigger. You will be pulling more than 180A.

[FighterCat57]

On the motor though right? The motor will have no problems swinging a 445 at all.... but your esc may not like it, and certainly wont like anything bigger. You will be pulling more than 180A.

Ah! Got it. I'm guessing the Hydra 180 has a much higher capacity than the Turnigy 180.


I have a Castle MMM that I'm not using. It's a killer car ESC. I wonder if I could adapt it to the boat?

Some conformal coating and a water cooled heat sink? (warranty void I know)
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[Make-a-Wake]

1k watts doesn't seem worth while or worth the extra $ for the setup. Was a fun idea though!



Back to the 1521/1.5d setup; I'm thinking that this would make a great setup for the Genesis:
6s2p 60c 10k, T180a, m445/447, possibly x452

The 1521 1.5d would make it really move out nicely on 6s..............i too would watch the props and personally would never even consider a 452................

Be careful with the Castle..........its only good for about 120a

[mudl]

Hello

i recived yesterday my Genisis.
First i want to test it with the original Hardware before i build it with two motors.
So here my Question
Has anyone a programming manuel for the original esc.
Maybe someone can help me

thanks from germany
mudl

[Alfa Spirit]

@ FighterCat57 : 10S is too much, 6S is good with a 1500kV motor like Feigao 580L 8 turns or 9 turns, if you want to run 8S you will need an expensive HV esc.

May be a twin setup is cheaper, 5S per 540XL/9 motor and 2 Turnigy 120A esc. The problem with twin are stingers they must be long enough, more than 10cm

[FighterCat57]

See Alfa's post.
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[FighterCat57]

The 1521 1.5d would make it really move out nicely on 6s..............i too would watch the props and personally would never even consider a 452................

Be careful with the Castle..........its only good for about 120a

The MMM? Yeah, I only see it at about 130-140 peak on the tell tale, haven't looked at the specs on it and don't know the constant.



The next question is drives. The 1521 is an 8mm shaft. The current drive is 4mm. Which might not be strong enough for the power of the 1521.

I'm beginning to think that a wire drive might work better. (Jeff, this is your queue)
Any suggestions?
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[Alfa Spirit]

Hello

i recived yesterday my Genisis.
First i want to test it with the original Hardware before i build it with two motors.
So here my Question
Has anyone a programming manuel for the original esc.
Maybe someone can help me

thanks from germany
mudl

Here is it

[mudl]

Hello

Thanks for the manual

For building the cat with two Motors i think also about drving 8s Lipos.
Maybe i put in two scorpion Motors .
But the problem is that 8s Lipo is in my opinion to heavy for this cat.
Better is to drive fast to make a light setup
Two Lehners oder tenshocks with 4s lipo for both motors
then i think the cat can reach over 80 mph.Maybe faster
I try

greetings from germany

mudl

[FighterCat57]

Hello

Thanks for the manual

For building the cat with two Motors i think also about drving 8s Lipos.
Maybe i put in two scorpion Motors .
But the problem is that 8s Lipo is in my opinion to heavy for this cat.
Better is to drive fast to make a light setup
Two Lehners oder tenshocks with 4s lipo for both motors
then i think the cat can reach over 80 mph.Maybe faster
I try

greetings from germany

mudl

Yes, 10s, 8s, too much and too heavy.
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[FighterCat57]

OK, I've asked Jeff to make a 4mm 078 wire drive and an 8mm->.078 coupler. This should be way cool.

What ESC should I use with the 1521 1.5d on 6s? The Turnigy 180a, Castle Hydra 120a or the Turnigy Monster 200a? I'm planning on using four 3s 30c 5000mah packs. (6s2p)

I already have a Turnigy 180a, but have another use for it. I'd have to order the Hydra or the Monster.
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[Make-a-Wake]

The MMM? Yeah, I only see it at about 130-140 peak on the tell tale, haven't looked at the specs on it and don't know the constant.



The next question is drives. The 1521 is an 8mm shaft. The current drive is 4mm. Which might not be strong enough for the power of the 1521.

I'm beginning to think that a wire drive might work better. (Jeff, this is your queue)
Any suggestions?

It comes in a 5mm shaft which is all you need.................

[FighterCat57]

It comes in a 5mm shaft which is all you need.................

Yeah, but this one came at a good price!
https://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/...ad.php?t=14671
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[Make-a-Wake]

Oh......forgot you alreagy got one.............

[FighterCat57]

Oh......forgot you alreagy got one.............

Yeah, but is good to know they come in 5mm shaft too! Never know, if I like it that much, I might get another one!

EDIT: it's a 1527 1.5d, not 1521 and Castle Recommends the Hydra 180 HV or 240.

Any advice on the ESC? I'm a little concerned about the Turnigy 180a being adequate for this... Don't want to cook the ESC.
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[Make-a-Wake]

Whoa! A 1527 is gonna make that baby sing!!!!!!!!!!!! Knowing that, you probably can run a bit larger than a 45.............they like prop.

I think you will still be fine with the 180a..............unless you throw that big 52mm airplane propeller on it

[FighterCat57]

Whoa! A 1527 is gonna make that baby sing!!!!!!!!!!!! Knowing that, you probably can run a bit larger than a 45.............they like prop.

I think you will still be fine with the 180a..............unless you throw that big 52mm airplane propeller on it

Yeah, sorry for the confusion, I just had 21 on the brain.

Cool, if the 180a will work, then I'm good to go! I just found an 8mm - 4mm coupler and am ordering the 8mm - 078 coupler & wire drive.

This should be a ripper!
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[Make-a-Wake]

My friend Justin just got his in. Here is a vid of the maiden...........vid is of actual first time in the water, we filmed it today...........didnt know what to expect...................Nice boat live in person, well built and laid out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z_KNRFSbr4

[FighterCat57]

Ha! Those little trailers are neat. I could just see driving that to the boat dock (.5 miles away) and using the dock!
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[Rumdog]

The seaking will work, depending on what prop and voltage you're going to run. What is your idea?If you run 5s and a 50mm prop or under, you may be safe. I have pushed the hell out of my seaking 180s. When I ran my 1527 1.5d it was with a CC240 lv on 5s2p. I ran up to a x455 and Things were starting to get a little warm. That motor is a freaking beast!

[FighterCat57]

The seaking will work, depending on what prop and voltage you're going to run. What is your idea?If you run 5s and a 50mm prop or under, you may be safe. I have pushed the hell out of my seaking 180s. When I ran my 1527 1.5d it was with a CC240 lv on 5s2p. I ran up to a x455 and Things were starting to get a little warm. That motor is a freaking beast!

Hmm. The plan was to use 4 x 3s1p 30c 5kmah packs in series/parallel for 6s2p 60c 10kmah.

I'm planning to start with a small prop, probably a 40/2 and work my way up from there. I have a feeling that the 1527 will make this guy a little top heavy, so will see how it handles. By breaking up the 6s packs, I'm hoping to even out the weight distribution and help lower the COG by installing them in the sponson bellies.

I haven't seen the motor/sizing physically (38.8 x 101.6mm) to know what motor mount I'll end up using, but will try to get the motor as low and straight as possible. I have a 40mm mount that should work, but will see soon. This is already a long skinny hull, so who knows what the result will be. One thing's for sure, it's going to be FAST.
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[FighterCat57]

Ah, take no chances... Just ordered a Hydra 240 to run this bad boy.

OK, my wallet hurts. Think I have all the parts I need on the way... Time to take a break.
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[HYDROJERRY]

Man you got alot of builds going right now,,,

[FighterCat57]

Man you got alot of builds going right now,,,

Yep. 5 of them. The 57" Gas Fighter Cat, the 34" Single Turnigy-Castle Apparition, the 40" Single Hydra-Castle Genesis and the 41" Twin Turnigy-Castle Sprint Cat. Oh yeah, almost forgot, and the EPOS-king of sh*ts.
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