New EKOS C1 Pre-Use Checklist

[FighterCat57]

Learning the hard way sucks. I see I'm not the only one here who has with this tug.

So I'll start a list of what I've learned the hard way and recommend before use:

* Buy two (or more) 1/8th collars for the prop shaft. Install them between the shaft tube and the coupler. Make sure to use blue loctite and careful not to strip the set screws. Do not run the boat without the collar! (use the opportunity to lube the shafts) This will help prevent lost drive shafts.

* Check Motor Mount bolts to make sure they are the correct length, if they appear long, add washers or replace if necessary. They are loose from the factory. Secure them with blue loctite and dab silicon around them to keep them from coming loose from vibration.

* Check coupler set screws, use blue loctite, careful not to strip them out. Optionally, use a 4mm tap and re-thread the couplers to use 4mm stainless set screws.

* Check the servo mount and apply more epoxy as required. Use blue loctite to secure screws, careful not to strip the aluminum threads.

* Replace the bare steel set screws on the prop dogs and the rudder set screws with stainless steel. They rust almost instantly.

* Use the cheap props util the setup has been proven, then risk the expensive ones.

* Make sure to seal the hatch completely. There is no bailing system.

Hope this helps!

Note* Admin please edit, re-write or make adjustments where appropriate.
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[forescott]

I've got 2-more
* As with any F.E. boat, stop and check your temps after a few minutes run-time. If any one or more components are too hot, stop immediately. Dont burn a hole in your hull!!
* Dont make any attempts to run 4s packs with the factory electronics. No matter what the venom videos show, or what venom claims. And if your motors still work after a few minutes on 3s, consider yourself lucky!!

[Igoreski]

Remove motors before running and send back to Venom for Ammo or Feigao replacements!!!

[forescott]

Remove motors before running and send back to Venom for Ammo or Feigao replacements!!!

Anyone looking to buy the ekos, if you can wait....,the ekos is supposed to get twin outrunners. Hopefully better quality than the current inrunners. Well see once the p-1 is released how its single inrunner holds up.

[FighterCat57]

Anyone looking to buy the ekos, if you can wait....,the ekos is supposed to get twin outrunners. Hopefully better quality than the current inrunners. Well see once the p-1 is released how its single inrunner holds up.

One word. TRAXXAS!

I've run Revo's for years, they have their act together and will dominate if they so choose to do so.
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[scubasteve95]

I WISH I COULD AGREE WITH ALL THIS ................BUT
I HAVE HAD NOTHING BUT GREAT RESULTS FROM MY EKOS AND FROM
VENOM TECH SUPPORT
I HAVE BEEN RUNNING 4S 5000mah
SINCE DAY 1....8mins @ WFO NO PROBLEMS TO DATE...
CHECK THEAD TO SEE.
I WOULD LIKE TO ADD 1 MORE THING TO THE FE/EKOS CHECK LIST
AFTER EACH AND EVERY RUN,NO EXCEPTIONS,EVEN IF YOU JUST COME IN TO CHECK HEAT...SPARY WD-40 OR
SOME TYPE OF WATER SHED LUBE ON STINGER BEARINGS...DONT BE SHY WITH THE LUBE EITHER LAY IT ON.

[Rumdog]

How are you fitting 4s 5000's in the boat?

[scubasteve95]

I'M USING DLG POWER 4S 5000mah PACKS
THEY FIT IN WITH NO MODS AT ALL........

[FighterCat57]

How are you fitting 4s 5000's in the boat?

Yeah, please tell me more. My 5k's don't fit in the battery tray with the hull hatch on & I really don't want to cut up that tray to fit them. I can only get 50 x 33mm rubbing on the top hatch and use 4k's.

PS- scubasteve you don't have to agree with anything I write. Ever.
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[FighterCat57]

Wow, 20c/pack. That could get really HOT.

I can't get away with 20c packs at 3s. Even 25c gets hot.

What props are you using?
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[scubasteve95]

SO FAR BEN WE HAVE BEEN ON THE SAME PAGE
DON'T WORRY ,I'M SURE THAT WON'T LAST FOREVER.
THE DGL POWER LIPO'S HAVE A PCB INSTALLED FROM THE FACTORY,
NO OVER HEAT,OVER CHARGE,UNDER CHARGE,SHORT OUT, ETC....
PACKS ARE 20C-40 BURST,GO TO DLGPOWER.COM DON'T BUY WITH OUT WHEELING AND DEALING,I PAID $200.00 SHIPPED
FOR 4 -4CELL 5000mah PACKS.
THAT IS CORRECT 4 PACKS DELIVERED.

[scubasteve95]

I'M USING THE 36mm FIBER PROPS(STOCK)
I WILL BE USING 36mm VENOM PRO PROPS NEXT TIME OUT
SO FAR THE BOAT IS STOCK WITH ALITTLE EXTRA COOLING

[scubasteve95]

Scrach that web site,just go to ebay type in the search member space
(dlgpower) and go to there store they have as many as you need....

[FighterCat57]

So a PCB prevents the battery pack from getting hot from current draw?

Please, tell me more.
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[scubasteve95]

YES......................

[scubasteve95]

the pcb stops all failures...at least thats what they tell me and so far it works perfect.

[scubasteve95]

the packs get to about 120 degrees and start to shut down, the good news is thats about all the pack has left in it, cells are @ about 3.40v across the board.

[Rumdog]

That is impossible.If my motor is pulling 120 amps continuous and the packs are 20c 5000 mah, they are only capable of 100 amps of continuous power, They WILL get hot, voltage will drop below lvc settings of the esc and that equals problems. How can a pcb on a battery stop my motor from pulling amps? How can it STOP heat?

[Rumdog]

The system shuts down because the lvc in the esc is kicking in. How can a pack "start" to shut down?

[Brushless55]

That is impossible.If my motor is pulling 120 amps continuous and the packs are 20c 5000 mah, they are only capable of 100 amps of continuous power, They WILL get hot, voltage will drop below lvc settings of the esc and that equals problems. How can a pcb on a battery stop my motor from pulling amps? How can it STOP heat?

[scubasteve95]

a pcb can do what ever it is designed to do.
if you are pulling 120 amps you should not be using a 20c 5000 pack to start with.
once battery gets to any of the cut off points it shuts down...its that simple.
just like a pcb in a lvc stops voltage from geting to low.

[Brushless55]

I've got 2-more
* As with any F.E. boat, stop and check your temps after a few minutes run-time. If any one or more components are too hot, stop immediately. Dont burn a hole in your hull!!
* Dont make any attempts to run 4s packs with the factory electronics. No matter what the venom videos show, or what venom claims. And if your motors still work after a few minutes on 3s, consider yourself lucky!!

and sell it quick!

[scubasteve95]

I don't know why you guys have so much anger built up,can't someone that has nothing but good with this boat share it with others?

[scubasteve95]

GO TO THE VENOM 4S 5000mah LIKE BUTTER THEAD AND SEE HOW THIS 1 BOAT ACTS.

[Rumdog]

It's not anger, just questions. Seems you are the only one having any luck with this boat at all. Therefore we want to know your setup details and why it may be working.

[scubasteve95]

No problem............ask away..............

[Brushless55]

GO TO THE VENOM 4S 5000mah LIKE BUTTER THEAD AND SEE HOW THIS 1 BOAT ACTS.

not good with the pickup on the bottom of the sponson like you have

[Brushless55]

I WISH I COULD AGREE WITH ALL THIS ................BUT
I HAVE HAD NOTHING BUT GREAT RESULTS FROM MY EKOS AND FROM
VENOM TECH SUPPORT
I HAVE BEEN RUNNING 4S 5000mah
SINCE DAY 1....8mins @ WFO NO PROBLEMS TO DATE...
CHECK THEAD TO SEE.
I WOULD LIKE TO ADD 1 MORE THING TO THE FE/EKOS CHECK LIST
AFTER EACH AND EVERY RUN,NO EXCEPTIONS,EVEN IF YOU JUST COME IN TO CHECK HEAT...SPARY WD-40 OR
SOME TYPE OF WATER SHED LUBE ON STINGER BEARINGS...DONT BE SHY WITH THE LUBE EITHER LAY IT ON.

so you only have 8mins of run time?
and you should use grease on the bearings, WD does not lube like grease will

[FighterCat57]

so you only have 8mins of run time?
and you should use grease on the bearings, WD does not lube like grease will

Isn't WD used to clean off good grease? At least that's what I use it for.
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[FighterCat57]

BTW- I'm really glad to hear of your successes and am really looking forward to some video.

=)
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