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[Doug Smock]

Thanks guys!!!

Jim, Brian made the same observation. I will add some more negative (approx 1 degree now) and do some more testing Friday during open water. Man, can you say down to the wire?? lol
Thanks again!!
Doug

[Jeepers]

good thing you went with the adjustable strut!

[jcald2000]

Also, do you the weight at 60% sponsons and 40% strut, it does make a difference!

[Doug Smock]

Also, do you the weight at 60% sponsons and 40% strut, it does make a difference!

Jim, I was delighted to see that I am very close the way the boat is set up with a 13.25" CG. I am just a tad heavy at the sponsons. That should improve some when I get the 4200 that I have on order for this boat. Right now I have a 5500 in it.

Thanks again sir!
Doug

[teach]

Was it just the video or was the water a little choppy?

That thing corners!!

Also a newguy question. Why cut down such a large prop instead of cutting down maybe a 45mm prop? Sorry I'm doing my best to learn props.

[Doug Smock]

Teach the water was a bit choppy, wind was blowing and yes, this thing is on rails!!!!

I am by NO means a prop expert!!! Hand raised high in the air!!

I think typically when the diameter of props is cut down it's because the application needs more ''push" (blade area) with less diameter. My SAWs monos for example don't like big wheels, bad things happen. lol
This prop was tuned for a mono by Andy Brown.
I ran the prop because it was the best prop I had for baseline data with this boat.

This is my first rigger, I am having a blast and learning a ton!!! Can't wait to get back to the pond.

Doug

[Doug Smock]

I went to our good friend Phil Pace at Vac-u-Boat to see if he would be interested in making some cowls for the JAE 21 FE. See Pics.

I really like the look of the "Stealth" cowl! If there is enough interest I'm sure Phil will make these available.
If your boat is already built, it shouldn't be hard to remove the sub deck above the 2nd bulkhead so you can use the cowl.
What do you think??

Doug

I have one in paint and will post pics again when it's on the boat.

[sailr]

Love the stealth cowl! That is one purty lil booger Doug!

[teach]

I think typically when the diameter of props is cut down it's because the application needs more ''push" (blade area) with less diameter.
Doug

Great info, thank you for that.

Could the nitro guys use a cowl like that? They seem to be hunting cowls for the .12 and .21. Maybe the folks at Vacu-boat could make a little money with them as well.

[HOTWATER]

I like the streamlined one Doug! Seems to go well with the rest of the lines that the JAE has...
I think the rounded one looks like the Rigged Insanity too much (which I have...great kit!)
...I would be interested.....Let me know when you get more info/ pricing...

Thanks!

-Kent

[Jeepers]

I went to our good friend Phil Pace at Vac-u-Boat to see if he would be interested in making some cowls for the JAE 21 FE. See Pics.

I really like the look of the "Stealth" cowl! If there is enough interest I'm sure Phil will make these available.
If your boat is already built, it shouldn't be hard to remove the sub deck above the 2nd bulkhead so you can use the cowl.
What do you think??

Doug

I have one in paint and will post pics again when it's on the boat.

yeah!!!! that looks sweet!

[Chilli]

Doug, Funny you brought up the cowls idea. I just got a couple cowls in the mail today that I ordered from Osborn Models (used on the Rigged Insanity). As it turns out, they were allot bigger than I thought and are a bit too wide for the JAE. That stealth cowl is da bomb! Goes great with the lines of the JAE. It looks so cool, the nitro guys will be jealous.


Also, I'm curious how you came up with the target 13.25 CG? Is that 40% of the distance between the tail end of the ski and the tail end of the sponsons riding surface? Would that give us the 60/40 weight bias that the JAE Gods say we need to strive for?

Thanks again for sharing your knowledge and making life easier for us newbies!

[Doug Smock]

Mike, first off..... this is my first rigger, I am just ahead of you in the newbie line LOL

I ask for that figure from a individual who has done well with the boat. As it turns out my boat is almost dead nuts 60/40 with the CG at 13.25" measured from the transom.
This is with a Hyperion 5500 that I don't intend on running in it. I am just a tad heavy at the sponsons.

My opinion: CG at 13.25" will give us a real good starting point. However, if you have a couple of scales, use them.

Phil did a great job on the cowl and the vinyl windshield, I love it, glad you guys do too!!!
Here is my finished boat. The only thing I am going to change is the prop. I should learn a lot this weekend.

Thanks fellas!
Doug

[dbuck]

Great info, thank you for that.

Could the nitro guys use a cowl like that? They seem to be hunting cowls for the .12 and .21. Maybe the folks at Vacu-boat could make a little money with them as well.

Yes, There are those of us nitro guys (including me) that are looking for cowls to cover our engines with. Of course they would have to be taller than those in the pics. Those are nice looking cowls, though!

David

[Chilli]

www.zippkits.com

Hmmmmm....... The boat on the right looks familiar.

[Doug Smock]

Yes, There are those of us nitro guys (including me) that are looking for cowls to cover our engines with. Of course they would have to be taller than those in the pics. Those are nice looking cowls, though!

David

Here is the scoop.

Phil is going to do re tool and make a new plug from the prototype plug of the Stealth cowl. He estimates this will take about a week and he can start producing these cowls.
The estimated cost is $10.00 plus shipping. This is a steal when you consider the time it takes to build the plugs, make the cowls, cut the vinyl windshield, invoicing, packing, and shipping.
The cowls are made out of .060 High Impact Polystyrene,( it will sit flush in the deck opening) and will include the windshield.
I will post here on the forum when he is ready to start shipping.

Nitro cowls.
Phil is speaking with Joe about making cowls for the nitro boats. ( dimensions, material, fuel proofing, ect ) Hopefully they can combine efforts and come up with something that will fill that void.
As always the quality of Vac-U Boat products is second to none, you won't be disappointed.

How many of you are seriously interestes in the cowl for the JAE 21 FE? Let's try to give Phil a starting number.

Thanks for your feedback.

Doug

[Chuck E Cheese]

i would take a FE cowl..

[HOTWATER]

Doug, I definately want one...will this fit the kit with the original two hatches, or is it made for the single (long) hatch like the one Joe sent you? Also, will the windsheild decals come on a sheet so we can paint it and then stick them on?

Thanks...these will be great!

-Kent

[Chilli]

Meeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Jeepers]

ok I think I will order the boat and the cowl so I will need one!

[Doug Smock]

Doug, I definately want one...will this fit the kit with the original two hatches, or is it made for the single (long) hatch like the one Joe sent you? Also, will the windsheild decals come on a sheet so we can paint it and then stick them on?

Thanks...these will be great!

-Kent

Kent it is made for the one piece hatch. It should be fairly easy to remove the deck ply above the 2nd bulkhead so that you can use this cowl.
Phil was going to make a 2 piece cowl but Joe is changing the design to a one piece cowl unless something has changed.

The windshield is four pieces of vinyl that will be applied as one (if that makes sense) and will not be applied to the cowl when you receive it.

I'll try to post a pic of the windshield but I am crazy busy trying to wrap up this week, and get ready for the race.
Thanks guys,
Doug

[Buckshot]

Inside the tubs and ski are sealed , one coat of epoxy on the outside of the tub, ski, and sponsons.
We decided to go with a one piece deck, one less thing to keep up with on race day.
Last two pics. Paul, Trini, Louis, then John and the sponson jig he hooked us up with. I'm the good looking one behind the camera.
We are getting closer!!

Doug

What a Motley Crew!

[Doug Smock]

What a Motley Crew!

Well you know how it is Buck. We can't all be as pretty as you sir.

We miss ya man!! See you in April!!!

Doug

[HOTWATER]

Doug, have you heard anything on the JAE vac-u-cowls from Phil? Just curious...

-Kent

[Doug Smock]

Doug, have you heard anything on the JAE vac-u-cowls from Phil? Just curious...

-Kent

Phil said he should finish up the plugs this weekend and start forming next week.

I'll let you guys know when he's ready to pull the trigger,
Doug

[HOTWATER]

Thanks for the update Doug!

Hey...what type of washers did you use between your JAE tub and boom tube collars? Something from McMaster-Carr?

Thanks sir!

-Kent

[Darin Jordan]

Thanks for the update Doug!

Hey...what type of washers did you use between your JAE tub and boom tube collars? Something from McMaster-Carr?

Thanks sir!

-Kent

That seems to be one of they mysteries of Rigger building... It would be nice if there was a known source for this kind of thing. (hint-hint...)

[HOTWATER]

That seems to be one of they mysteries of Rigger building... It would be nice if there was a known source for this kind of thing. (hint-hint...)

...if there was, these forums would not be any fun...

[Doug Smock]

Thanks for the update Doug!

Hey...what type of washers did you use between your JAE tub and boom tube collars? Something from McMaster-Carr?

Thanks sir!

-Kent

5/16 ID X 11/16 OD x approx 1/16" nylon washers. I found them at my local Home Depot.
Doug

[Chuck E Cheese]

why do you need washers? i just push the colars tight against the tub