New BJ Owner without maiden voyage

[snaychev]

Hi, first Happy Holidays to all members and a happy new year.

I had this boat - a BJ 26 BL as a gift one month ago.
It is still new. I tried to program it with the program card but with another battery 7.2v 650 mah from 2ch heli toy charged on half ( in order not to burn something) as i used the port from the card to supply the power because still dont have any batteries. First connected the battery to the terminal of the program card. Then swiched power on and... nothing? no beeps at all.
Is this normal?
Hope that i did not melt anything before the first voyage
And one more question- it came with some cracks on the front part of the hull, i already restored it completely whit epoxy and fiber glass. Can i use a clear white gelcoat mixed with 2% hardener( used for full size boats) to respray the hull fully?
Or i should use some kind of paint?
BRGDS
Slavi

p.s.
sorry for my level of english but i am from Bulgaria and still learning

[G-UNIT]

well i have'ent tryed powering the card with a alternitive power supply but i would belive that you also need to connect the esc to the card also ( right side of card ) you have power going into the card but you are not sending any signals to the ecs.
when you get some batterys, plug the esc to the card note where the brown wire is, it should be on the bottom terminal, with switch off connect the batterys turn switch on, you should hear one beep.
turn switch off disconnect one battery and reconnect it, you should have steering
and throttle, hope this helps.

[Duclover]

Well, without going into detail as far as the hull repair I can tell you the the voltage you are using is fine, however, the amperage is considerably short as it it not recomended to use any less than the low 3000's if you are using lipos and the programming module. Can you elaborate moreso on what type of power supply you RE USING (NiMh or lipo as NiCad is NOT recommended)? a photo, if possible, would be most helpful to see your setup.

The Duc

[snaychev]

Thanks for the reply, boys.
Everything was connected propperly i checked it 3 times.
The battery that i used was from a cheap hellicopter toy NiMh 7,2v 650 mah
The ESC was connected also to the card on the proper place and correct color scheme.
For the alernative power supply from ProBoat reccomend maximum 5 volts but nobody said anything about the amperage?
The hull repair is done perfectly, asking about the finishing coat?
Gelcoat or normal paint?
When i am ready will post some photos.
BRGDS

[G-UNIT]

normal paint with a clear coat should be fine.
check the other threads in this forums.

[snaychev]

Hi all, finally she is alive I did the programming of the ESC without problem.

Last week was lucky to by 5000 mah HI- Energy NiMh sub-c 6 cell , 2packs
and two chargers Robbe peak 400 from Ripmax.
Have a starting signal - low plus hi tone and 5 times hi-tone after all.
Now waiting for the new paint . looking for some bright blue color with white ghost flames and scull on her made with airbrush.
Best regards to all members

[LiPo Power]

...any chance for few pictures of your set up please?

[snaychev]

...any chance for few pictures of your set up please?

I do not understand exactly what do you mean?
The hardware is completely stock and esc is set up to:
1. Batt. - Ni-MH
2. Cutoff voltage - Low
3. Cutoff type - slow down
4. Brake - off
5. Timing - low
6. Throttle - logarithm
Just waiting for my godfather to paint her with fresh shiny bright blue color and the Jolly Roger as a ghost in white all over the hull


and some photos of the repair
last one is me and my "vehicle"

[snaychev]

the colour scheme will be something mixed between these photos
as the first is as colour and second is as grafics.

[snaychev]

Hi again.
Today i stripped the hull to be ready for painting tomorrow and analized that it was impossible to remove the turn fins and outdrive too. Something like a thread lock was in all bolts.
Finally have cutted them with micro disc on my grinding micro tool.
What a pain to do it .
So tomorrow is coming the new paint!
Fingers crossed please
Wish me luck.
Will post photos as soon as possible.
Best regards to everyone.

[G-UNIT]

Best of luck on your new paint.
what kind of paint are you going to use? spray bombs or gun with air brush?
I'm just going to use spray bombs, more of a graphic type of paint scheme,
did you see my drawings under paint ideas?
Remember, patience is a vertieu.

[G-UNIT]

Best of luck on your new paint.
what kind of paint are you going to use? spray bombs or gun with air brush?
I'm just going to use spray bombs, more of a graphic type of paint scheme,
did you see my drawings under paint ideas?
Remember, patience is a virtue.

[snaychev]

My godfather is going to use professional spray gun first with automotive bright blue metalic. Then the airbrush and finally several layers of clear coat.
Yesterday he sprayed the filler and now she is totally black . After the sanding is coming the new paint. For the airbrush we decided one big scull (ghost white like smoke effect ) and lightnings all over the hull.

[snaychev]

Hi everybody again. After a long period of waiing the new paint and scarab lettering are ready. Remaining the skull and lightnings.
Nice and shiny like new after the repairwork

[G-UNIT]

Nice color blue, should be cool when you get the air brush work done.
post pics!!!
g-unit / aka bobby g

[animigan]

Just a heads up - make sure you fill in the hole in the hatch (for the antenna). The stock hole is obscenely big and will let your boat fill up in seconds.
Andre

[snaychev]

Do not worry Andre, i have special rubber seal for that case. It fits in the hole very tight
Slavi

[snaychev]

I have some questions boys.
1. When you use your BJ do you have a grease on transom and on steerable drive after the run?
Or this is because i use some kind of different grease ?
2. Any water from the stuffing tube inside the hull (only if use pro boat grease)?
And the last one - what is the difference between the normal clear scotch tape and that tape that model stores sell to seal the hatch? Is there any difference?

[snaychev]

Some photos from today Now waiting for the clear coat only.

[tiqueman]

Ehh, its ok....

Thats ridiculously awesome! Great job!

I have some questions boys.
1. When you use your BJ do you have a grease on transom and on steerable drive after the run? YUP
Or this is because i use some kind of different grease ?
2. Any water from the stuffing tube inside the hull (only if use pro boat grease)? Most of the time just a drop or two
And the last one - what is the difference between the normal clear scotch tape and that tape that model stores sell to seal the hatch? Is there any difference? I would think the Hobby type has a better bond.. but scratch both and get 3M clear electricl tape. Was turned onto it about a year ago and thats all I now use. And its CHEAP!!!!!

[snaychev]

http://vbox7.com/play:78dc9067
http://vbox7.com/play:4a359d56
http://vbox7.com/play:44ecd166
Some video from first voyage
one from the batts was melted on the second day
Motor was cool , ESC was cool , batteries- very very hot? Any idea?

[tiqueman]

I gave up waiting for the vids to load... I though Youtube was sometimes bad....

What batts are you using. Sounds like they arent powerful enough to handle the draws. If they are lipo, 20C minimum... but get the highest C rating you can afford at the time. I run 30C mostly, but can tell quite a temp difference in my BJ between 20 and 30C.

[snaychev]

http://img413.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=01042010008.jpg
small album with final clear coat and assembled

[snaychev]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTGWpJ3lO6c

[snaychev]

I gave up waiting for the vids to load... I though Youtube was sometimes bad....

What batts are you using. Sounds like they arent powerful enough to handle the draws. If they are lipo, 20C minimum... but get the highest C rating you can afford at the time. I run 30C mostly, but can tell quite a temp difference in my BJ between 20 and 30C.

Hi -Energy NiMh 7,2 volts 5000 mAh from Ripmax, not mentioned anyting about draws on the stickers neither 15, 20 or 30C - nothing.

[tiqueman]

Get yourself some Lipos and you will have a whole new boat. HobbyCity.com, Turnigy Lipos. A pair of 2S 5000mah 30C would be a great start. And they are right around 30 dollars each. You will not be sorry.

[G-UNIT]

Nice paint.
I have been following your posts and I really thought you have up graded your
hardware and batts.
saw your vids and to be honest, not impressed.
I know $ is tight these days, but take your time and build your boat the way you think.
Hell it took me a while to get A GOOD charger, and I'm still waiting on LIPOS.
The paint i'm doing won't come close to yours, I'm more graphics then detail I guess,
Although my harley had bolts like that, w/o the skull.
GOOD LUCK AND GET LIPOS , THEN YOU WILL SEE SOME REAL SPEED.
LATER BOBBY G
/ AKA G-UNIT

[snaychev]

Thanks for the comments boys!
I really think to get serious Lipos and chager.
Already waiting for new hardware without u-joint , but sitting on same place with same holes - a friend of mine workig on laser cutter and will be ready soon i guess.
Also looking for an octura X442 sharped and ballanced and new flex shaft.
For now i am happy, because the boat was sitting too long without a water and she already made her first run without a drop of water inside the hull.
Best regards to all and big thanks to G-Unit for the bolts
p.s. because that was the first run the esc was programmed to deliver 80% power - in logarythm mode.

[snaychev]

Waiting for IMAX B6 AC charger and pair of 7,4v Flightmax 4500 mAh 30C Li Po from Hobby King and propeller octura X642 sharpened and ballanced by "egneg".

[egneg]

The paint is very nice.