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    Default Aeromarine 43" Challenger Hull

    Hay guys I have a Aeromarine 43" Challenger Fiberglass Hull and want to know wich brushless motor will give me 40mph and on what batts and prop combination.
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    feigao 580L on 6s ....not sure of the prop
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    I do have a 580 9l, maybe on 6s?

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    Hi,

    Found that video on youtube : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbEKi...eature=channel
    I guess the owner is a member of this board.

    Motor : 4035-800
    Cell count : 8S
    Prop : x646/3
    Speed : 41 mph

    Could be an option.

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    Looks like it could be fun, Im just wondering if the 580l would have enough power to push the heavy gas hull.

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    The other problem with the boat on the vid is that the motor spec is 4000W + continiuos. Will the 580l have enough power? Or do I have to install 2 of the 580 motors?

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    Hi,

    I don't know much about the 580 but I think they are too small for this hull, at least on a single motor setup.
    Maybe 2 580 can do the job.

    On my Challenger, I'll use a 4035-800 on 9S. I'm still collecting components at this time, I hope to get it wet by Jan or Feb 2010.

    Last edited by Mathieu; 11-11-2009 at 11:52 AM.

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    I have seen a avenger pro set up with a neu 1527 1.5y and hydra hv 240 x452 or x455 prop on 10s 2p run around 60mph it was a nice easy setup that ran awsome.

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    Looking for information if anyone has recently (2018) built out the bare Aeromarine Challenger hull for FE. Would prefer to use a 4092 1390K Leopard or a TP 4060 1380K and 3/16" shafting to keep costs down. Would prefer to run between 4S and 6S Lipos and not looking for high mph, maybe in the 35+ range. I already have the Leopard 4092 1390K motor - as I was looking forward to purchase a ARTR HK Osprey which seems no longer available. Any recommendations for a stringer or strut/rudder, tabs and turning fins for setting up the Challenger 43?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tebby2 View Post
    Looking for information if anyone has recently (2018) built out the bare Aeromarine Challenger hull for FE. Would prefer to use a 4092 1390K Leopard or a TP 4060 1380K and 3/16" shafting to keep costs down. Would prefer to run between 4S and 6S Lipos and not looking for high mph, maybe in the 35+ range. I already have the Leopard 4092 1390K motor - as I was looking forward to purchase a ARTR HK Osprey which seems no longer available. Any recommendations for a stringer or strut/rudder, tabs and turning fins for setting up the Challenger 43?
    You would be better off with a lower kv motor and higher cell count. That leopard can still pull some amps, and you would have to run a pretty small prop which is not too efficient. If you are going to run 6s go to 1200 or so kv and turn a prop around 48-50mm. You will still need 6s2p for decent run times. Going to 500-700 kv on 10s will be much easier on the amps and you can use a seaking 130 HV esc.
    I am running an Osprey with a TP4060 580kv, SK 130HV esc and run a Prather 240 at around 45mph. The boat is set up for endurance racing and draws an average current of 50A.

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    Peter,

    Thanks for the quick response. My preference is for lower voltage with batteries in parallel. I do have a TP 4060 1050kv which should put me in the 35+ range with a 45 or 47 mm prop. I would be inclined to go with a 3 blade to push the larger boat with less slippage. The Leo 4092 1390kv was a consensus recommendation for an Osprey on an OSE forum a few years ago. The opinion also suggested a X445 or a X447 for 6S Lipos in an Osprey. I'm not familiar with the Challenger 43 hull regarding weight, but assume it weights a little more than the Osprey. Also according to my calcs the 4092 1390kv on 6S with 445 or 447 props should be running around 48 - 50 mph - which I consider too fast for lakes and ponds in my location. I can't begin guestimate to amps pulled by this set up. I do know that the TP 4060 1050kv is rated for around the same amperage as the Leo 4092 1390kv - about 135 amps. I wish that the HK Osprey was still available with the complete running gear, trim tabs and turning fin set up. That is where my real questions are for the Challenger 43. As far as motor selection, I always start with lower voltage battery packs (usually 3S) and move upward in voltage depending on the amp draw as indicated by the radio telemetry.

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    The leopard 4092 and tp 4060 will handle x450 props with easily. Especially a 1390kv 4092 and a tp 4060 1050kv.

    To be honest though the leopard will pull around 130 amps or more with a x450 prop on 6s. Expect 28000 to 29000 rpm under load with a x450 prop on 6s for the leopard 1390kv. Speed would be 48 to 50mph.

    You would need good cells and have everything properly solder to get that performance with the leopard. I would not recommend running hard constantly with this setup.

    The tp 4060 1050kv with the same prop will be slower but have better runtime.

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    That hull is definitely not for 6S, it will run but you will be pushing your equipment. It's not just the weight it's the amount of hull dragging in the water, especially in the turns. A castle 2028 on 8S with a 457 prop will give you 45+mph and will run nice and easy with a 180amp speedo. That setup also gives you a lot of options, go with a BIG prop on 8s like a 465 and go faster or go to 10s when or if you feel like and its a non issue and you can go all the way up to 12s with that motor. The 2028's are pretty much bulletproof and can be found for good prices.That's my opinion, Oh and I've built 12 of those boats and I have tried 6S and it is not worth trying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tebby2 View Post
    Looking for information if anyone has recently (2018) built out the bare Aeromarine Challenger hull for FE. Would prefer to use a 4092 1390K Leopard or a TP 4060 1380K and 3/16" shafting to keep costs down. Would prefer to run between 4S and 6S Lipos and not looking for high mph, maybe in the 35+ range. I already have the Leopard 4092 1390K motor - as I was looking forward to purchase a ARTR HK Osprey which seems no longer available. Any recommendations for a stringer or strut/rudder, tabs and turning fins for setting up the Challenger 43?
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    Hello Jesse

    I ended up putting my Areomarine Challenger 43 together pretty much as Peter A and and fred75 suggested. It is powered with a TP power 4070 440KV motor running on 12S (two Turnigy 10,000mAh Lipos in series) The running gear is a Speedmaster 21/40 3/16" stinger with a de-tongued Octura X457. The ESC is a high voltage 130 amp Seaking. I'm running with a Speedmaster 4" set back Dual Pickup Tapered Rudder Assembly, OSE-80075 Dual Trim Tab Assembly Large Sized, and OSE - 80067 One set Metal Turn Fins, Extra Large. I also went with a 6 cell NiMh battery pack for the receiver power and use a high voltage (7.5 volt) steering servo. This set up pulls about 50 amps to get on plane, and then cruises easily at 25-30 amps. Top end is 50 - 51 mph according to my Taranis GPS

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    Hello Jesse,

    A few more pieces of info. The Challenger 43 was shipped with 6mm thick stringers for a gasser set up. I removed the stingers, smoothed the epoxied fillets, and then epoxied a full length carbon fiber/ Kevlar 5.5 oz fabric into the inner hull. This was done to facilitate the 10,000 lipos to each side of the motor and to keep the weigh lower in the hull. I also used OSE Qiuck Change Motor Mounts for the TP 4070. The typical TP cooling jacket is somewhat narrow and does not fit well over the motor can , so I went with an OSE Water jacket 40 x 70mm long. My Challenger runs with a high temperature of 95 deg F in 80 deg F pond water. Also my COG is closer to 34%. With the COG at less than 34% my Challenger wanted to come out of the water and fly or go sideways. This was not a very good handling scenario, so I ended up adjusting the COG forward about 1/4. This resulted in a much more stable and easier ride. Check out this OSE forum link for more information on the Challenger 43. https://forums.offshoreelectrics.com...=Challenger+43

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