Rio EP my thoughts

[Diesel6401]

If you're buying a package (esc and motor) you'd be much better suited buying one made for boats. You'll get a water-cooled esc. You could get yourself a feigao 540 s motor and run a sv27 esc for fairly cheap. It would be overkill, but you could run the whole sv27 package in this hull. Keep in mind, lower kv, higher voltage will be much more reliable than high kv and lower voltage. If any of you guys need a smallish 3s lipo, I have one listed in the swap shop for $20.00 bucks.

I kinda wanted to get it to one battery in the hull, that's why I liked the WM setup. Any suggestions to which exact motor would be best ?!?!?! I'm also running NIMH and don't wanna go lipo

[SweetZ28]

I kinda wanted to get it to one battery in the hull, that's why I liked the WM setup. Any suggestions to which exact motor would be best ?!?!?! I'm also running NIMH and don't wanna go lipo

I tried 3300KV to slow I say the vxl 3500KV will be a good motor.

[Rumdog]

Just curious, why no lipo?

[Rumdog]

The Feigao 8 or 9s would work well with 7.2 volt nimh. kv x volts equals rpm. Shoot for 30-35k rpms.

[SweetZ28]

The Feigao 8 or 9s would work well with 7.2 volt nimh. kv x volts equals rpm. Shoot for 30-35k rpms.

The S cans are short won't they not have a lot of tork like the traxxas long can VXL?

[Rumdog]

For the Rio ep, you would only need a S size can. The larger motors will have too much physical mass for that hull and may hinder the handling. You could use an L size can, but it's unnecessary.

[Diesel6401]

Just curious, why no lipo?

I already have money in nimh batteries and the charger I have is a great charger, but it's not for lipo's. The big reason is I just run boats by myself for fun and I don't need to worry about LVC and charging/storing my batteries a major deal. NIMH are just way easier and suit my application way better. Who knows I may switch sometime down the road, but for now I'm happy.

[Diesel6401]

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbycity/s...dProduct=10331
http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...?prod=fei-540S
8s
You guys think this is ok?

[Rumdog]

On ebay type in seaking esc. The 60 amp is VERY affordable and waterproof/watercooled.

[Brushless55]

For the Rio ep, you would only need a S size can. The larger motors will have too much physical mass for that hull and may hinder the handling. You could use an L size can, but it's unnecessary.

The stock motor in these little hulls is a 550, so it would be the same as the L cans..

[Rumdog]

AHHH sweet! that does leave more options.

[Diesel6401]

On ebay type in seaking esc. The 60 amp is VERY affordable and waterproof/watercooled.

This is what i'm thinking for my RIO:

http://cgi.ebay.com/HOBBYWING-Seakin...item2a025cae34

http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...?prod=fei-540L
6L (4116kv)

On my batteries that i run i should reach between:
29,635rpm on my 7.2v nimh and about 34,574rpm with my 8.4v nimh. Sound ok?

[SweetZ28]

This is what i'm thinking for my RIO:

http://cgi.ebay.com/HOBBYWING-Seakin...item2a025cae34

http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...?prod=fei-540L
6L (4116kv)

On my batteries that i run i should reach between:
29,635rpm on my 7.2v nimh and about 34,574rpm with my 8.4v nimh. Sound ok?

I don't know i think that's way to muchKV i would stay 35 to 37KV.

[Diesel6401]

I don't know i think that's way to muchKV i would stay 35 to 37KV.

What could happen if I have to much rpm?

[SweetZ28]

What could happen if I have to much rpm?

I tried my novak 4300 and it stunk it reved way to much you would have to use a really small prop I think i tried a 38 or 35mm prop and it was slow because it reved so much you would need even way smaller of a prop...and also on NIMH packs the more KV the more strain and heat on all parts and battery packs.

[Diesel6401]

I tried my novak 4300 and it stunk it reved way to much you would have to use a really small prop I think i tried a 38 or 35mm prop and it was slow because it reved so much you would need even way smaller of a prop...and also on NIMH packs the more KV the more strain and heat on all parts and battery packs.

Ok, very good information. I did not know that. It seems like I keep going away from the Velineon system and looking at other things but at the end of the day it's prob the best fit for me. Just gotta face the fact

[Brushless55]

This is what i'm thinking for my RIO:

http://cgi.ebay.com/HOBBYWING-Seakin...item2a025cae34

http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...?prod=fei-540L
6L (4116kv)

On my batteries that i run i should reach between:
29,635rpm on my 7.2v nimh and about 34,574rpm with my 8.4v nimh. Sound ok?

Wow the shipping is 30 bucks on the esc!
and the motor you want pulls over 100amps, that will cook the esc
better to go low kv high volts, uses less amps

If you have the XVL already, I would use that and see how you like it before buying another esc and motor
the VXL motor makes awesome power!

[Diesel6401]

Hey sweetz, did you say the titan 12t gets like 26000 rpm? When you tested that was that with lipo's or nimh?

[Diesel6401]

Wow the shipping is 30 bucks on the esc!
and the motor you want pulls over 100amps, that will cook the esc
better to go low kv high volts, uses less amps

If you have the XVL already, I would use that and see how you like it before buying another esc and motor
the VXL motor makes awesome power!

No I don't have a VXL I have an XL5 in my boat now. I was just debating on getting the whole VXL esc/motor combo. Trying to get my boat in the 25+mph range.

[SweetZ28]

Hey sweetz, did you say the titan 12t gets like 26000 rpm? When you tested that was that with lipo's or nimh?

Hi it was 26,000RPM witha 7.2V NIMH and my 3300KV showed 22,700RPM
I think a 3500KV should move your boat at about 25MPH

[Diesel6401]

Hi it was 26,000RPM witha 7.2V NIMH and my 3300KV showed 22,700RPM
I think a 3500KV should move your boat at about 25MPH

I'm just gonna bite the bullet and get the VXL system combo. Now all I gotta do is buy it without the wife finding out lol. This should be interesting

[Brushless55]

Keep in mind its more than rpm..
these brushless motors put out way more power and torque than the brushed motors you are replacing

just because the rpms are lower does not mean they will be slower, you can prop them up and get alot more speed if that's what you are after.
25mph+ should be very easy in this hull with a different motor and esc change

[Brushless55]

I've been working on two other boats right now, but I still want to try one of my Team Orion Revolution 13x1 motors on 2s in this hull..
it could be to much rpm though, of about 37-39,000rpm, and around 230+ watts

[Diesel6401]

I've been working on two other boats right now, but I still want to try one of my Team Orion Revolution 13x1 motors on 2s in this hull..
it could be to much rpm though, of about 37-39,000rpm, and around 230+ watts

Let me know how that goes. Curious to see the results. I just ordered an upgraded water jacket and an additional water pickup for my supervee. Pretty soon I'll put the ammo recommended upgrade motor into the supervee. Don't have the extra $$ to do it know since a new video game is coming out on tuesday need the cash for it. (Call Of Duty )

[Brushless55]

Let me know how that goes. Curious to see the results. I just ordered an upgraded water jacket and an additional water pickup for my supervee. Pretty soon I'll put the ammo recommended upgrade motor into the supervee. Don't have the extra $$ to do it know since a new video game is coming out on tuesday need the cash for it. (Call Of Duty )

will do

one thing to try is use a small pointed file and ream out just a little on the water pickup in the stock rudder, that will give really good results with cooling..
My temps never get abouve 120* no mater what prop I use and two weeks ago with a CF45 my temps were only 90* on the motor and only 87* on the esc using the stock rudder pickup and stock water jaket..

[Rumdog]

FYI, there is an xpower 100amp esc watercooled in the swap shop right now for 50 bucks. would be perfect for this boat!!

[Diesel6401]

will do

one thing to try is use a small pointed file and ream out just a little on the water pickup in the stock rudder, that will give really good results with cooling..
My temps never get abouve 120* no mater what prop I use and two weeks ago with a CF45 my temps were only 90* on the motor and only 87* on the esc using the stock rudder pickup and stock water jaket..

I will do the file trick. I'm also going to add the extra water pickup as well though. Y not since I already bought it, cant hurt.

[Diesel6401]

FYI, there is an xpower 100amp esc watercooled in the swap shop right now for 50 bucks. would be perfect for this boat!!

I'm going to go through with the VXL system in this boat. I really wanna c what it will do for this boat, curiosity may get the best of me on this one