Rio EP my thoughts

**Brushless55** · 10-17-2009, 11:11 PM

I have two SVs and dig them!

**Diesel6401** · 10-17-2009, 11:30 PM

Originally Posted by Brushless55

They do have some 3000kv motor esc combos for about 80-100bucks

Check this out
http://cgi.ebay.com/eZRun-Brushless-...item5635d61d14

**Diesel6401** · 10-17-2009, 11:48 PM

Originally Posted by soulreaper

Hey guys if you decide to use a motor that has a 5mm shaft just order the 5mm to .130 flex hex coupler the OSE sells. I have this same adapter. Check out the picture I posted in the "Brushless Soon Thread"

Reaper.

Thank, I have it on my watch list and will prob order it next week.

**Brushless55** · 10-17-2009, 11:51 PM

Originally Posted by Diesel6401

Check this out
http://cgi.ebay.com/eZRun-Brushless-...item5635d61d14

That's just the one I was thinking!
That should do just fine, should put this boat in the 30s easy

**chummer** · 10-17-2009, 11:53 PM

Just a suggestion,

If you buy a supervee then you will have to run it on 4s. Do you already have the batteries? If not that is going to be another purchase. Get it working with the 12T since you already have it.

You could post a WTB in the swap shop and see if you can get a used SV27 then you would have the electronics and hardware to put on the Rio at a later date.

I am still waiting on my EP and I have not seen one other than pictures so I can't say for sure but my thoughts are that once you have it converted it will be a better handling boat than the SV. The downside of the Rio is the ABS hull where as the SV is glass.

**Diesel6401** · 10-19-2009, 04:57 PM

I tried a smaller prop a few moments ago and I lost about 1.5mph on the boat and it was a lot slower to get on plane. I need more power, prob gonna grab a 8.4nimh. Not going to lipo yet, just cant efford it at this time

**Diesel6401** · 10-19-2009, 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by chummer

Just a suggestion,

If you buy a supervee then you will have to run it on 4s. Do you already have the batteries? If not that is going to be another purchase. Get it working with the 12T since you already have it.

You could post a WTB in the swap shop and see if you can get a used SV27 then you would have the electronics and hardware to put on the Rio at a later date.

I am still waiting on my EP and I have not seen one other than pictures so I can't say for sure but my thoughts are that once you have it converted it will be a better handling boat than the SV. The downside of the Rio is the ABS hull where as the SV is glass.

I really like the dual rudder set up on the RIO and the over all look of the boat and the 2.4ghz radio system is awesome. If I did buy a sv I would put the RIO radio system in it without a doubt. Im honestly leaning more towards going brushless with my RIO at this moment. We will see how much of a beating the ABS hull can handle.

**soulreaper** · 10-20-2009, 05:58 AM

Update on my Rio. All of my brushless components are in. Tomorrow all items will be installed. I might even get a chance to test the boat also. If not I will test it out Thursday, as long as the weather holds. I will post pictures tomorrow after the components are installed.

Reaper.

**SweetZ28** · 10-20-2009, 09:01 AM

Hi if you don't mind me asking what KV brushless motor did you use?
Thanks

Originally Posted by soulreaper

Update on my Rio. All of my brushless components are in. Tomorrow all items will be installed. I might even get a chance to test the boat also. If not I will test it out Thursday, as long as the weather holds. I will post pictures tomorrow after the components are installed.

Reaper.

**soulreaper** · 10-20-2009, 03:26 PM

Sweetz28, I dont mind you asking the question. I was trying to wait until after I had tested my setup before I posted all the information, but here it is. 2350kv. I'll tell all Wednesday. Hope this helps for now.

Reaper.

**SweetZ28** · 10-20-2009, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by soulreaper

Sweetz28, I dont mind you asking the question. I was trying to wait until after I had tested my setup before I posted all the information, but here it is. 2350kv. I'll tell all Wednesday. Hope this helps for now.

Reaper.

Are you going to run 2S? I ran a 3300KV in my apache 24 on 2S only went like 18.7mph. Sounds like you will be running 3s with that KV?

**Diesel6401** · 10-20-2009, 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by SweetZ28

Are you going to run 2S? I ran a 3300KV in my apache 24 on 2S only went like 18.7mph. Sounds like you will be running 3s with that KV?

That doesn't sound right. I get almost 15mph in a Rio with a Titan 12t brushed with a 7.2 3300mah nimh stick. You should be getting way more speed than that brushless. What type of motor/esc do you have.

**SweetZ28** · 10-20-2009, 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by Diesel6401

That doesn't sound right. I get almost 15mph in a Rio with a Titan 12t brushed with a 7.2 3300mah nimh stick. You should be getting way more speed than that brushless. What type of motor/esc do you have.

Yea i know but i don't in fact i used to have a traxxas titan 12 in my boat? Also i measured motor RPM at 7.2V titan 12 =26,00RPM and 3300Kv =22,900rpm on my slot car RPM checker...so a Titain 12 has much more RPM that's why it's not that much of a differeance..

**soulreaper** · 10-20-2009, 06:49 PM

I will test it out with a 2cell and a 3cell.

Reaper.

**SweetZ28** · 10-20-2009, 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by soulreaper

I will test it out with a 2cell and a 3cell.

Reaper.

Ok let us know how she goes.

**soulreaper** · 10-20-2009, 08:01 PM

Will do

**SweetZ28** · 10-20-2009, 08:29 PM

what prop you using and are you going to GPS for speed?

**soulreaper** · 10-20-2009, 08:41 PM

No I dont have any GPS devices. I will record a video and post it on this forum. For now Im using the stock prop until I get the proper tubing to covert over to 3/16, that way I will have a better choice of props. I will place an order after testing is complete with the setup that I have now.

**SweetZ28** · 10-20-2009, 08:43 PM

Ok that's cool.

**soulreaper** · 10-20-2009, 08:49 PM

Z28 is there any update on your Apache 24? I also have an Apache 24, and was wondering if I should try and Mod it after I finish the mod on my Rio

Reaper

**SweetZ28** · 10-20-2009, 08:57 PM

Hi look in the proboat section there is 2 posts of info on it... I trieda 3300KV but it was not much faster than a traxxas titan 12....so i tried my 4300KV novak system and that thing reved way to much ...think a 3500KV to 3700KV with 2S would be good.

**soulreaper** · 10-20-2009, 09:00 PM

ok thanks

Reaper

**Brushless55** · 10-20-2009, 09:46 PM

Originally Posted by SweetZ28

Hi look in the proboat section there is 2 posts of info on it... I trieda 3300KV but it was not much faster than a traxxas titan 12....so i tried my 4300KV novak system and that thing reved way to much ...think a 3500KV to 3700KV with 2S would be good.

Have you tried the 3300kv on 3s?
that could get things done!

**SweetZ28** · 10-20-2009, 10:32 PM

Originally Posted by Brushless55

Have you tried the 3300kv on 3s?
that could get things done!

Hi no i have not I don't have 3s packs I was trying to make a pretty nice boat that will run on 2S on 3s at 3300KV =36,630 RPM i think it would be a bit to much for the 24" boat?

**Brushless55** · 10-20-2009, 11:03 PM

Originally Posted by SweetZ28

Hi no i have not I don't have 3s packs I was trying to make a pretty nice boat that will run on 2S on 3s at 3300KV =36,630 RPM i think it would be a bit to much for the 24" boat?

In a small boat like that it would be fine as long you use a small prop.
also you can try and prop up with that motor while using 2s..

**SweetZ28** · 10-21-2009, 08:59 AM

Originally Posted by Brushless55

In a small boat like that it would be fine as long you use a small prop.
also you can try and prop up with that motor while using 2s..

Hi on the 3300KV on 2s I tried 42mm down to 35mm seemed like the 38mm was fastest I was going to try a 45mm but i thought it would be to big?

**Brushless55** · 10-21-2009, 10:54 AM

Originally Posted by SweetZ28

Hi on the 3300KV on 2s I tried 42mm down to 35mm seemed like the 38mm was fastest I was going to try a 45mm but i thought it would be to big?

Give it a spin bro, it could be the ticket!
just do small runs and check your temps

**SweetZ28** · 10-21-2009, 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by Brushless55

Give it a spin bro, it could be the ticket!
just do small runs and check your temps

Just tried it it is slow 18.6MPH i may have to try 3s but i may just buy a new motor... thing is the boats funny it always feels like it never gets high on plane out of the water it always feels wetI have videos of it going no mater how much i angle the prop strut it seems to stay the same?

**Brushless55** · 10-21-2009, 04:01 PM

Hmmm, something sounds off?

that puppy should scoot!

what batteries are you using?

**Diesel6401** · 10-21-2009, 04:50 PM

My friend has a apache 24 and stock it beats the rio out the gate easy, but the rio will catch it after a 10ft and smoke it. hes had nothing but problems with that boat and i think im going to stay away from proboat. once i get my vxl system for my rio ill prob put my titan 12t and xl5 esc in his boat. I changed his prop to the extra prop that comes with the rio and it made it decent difference and his boat stock would beat m the rio stock

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