Castle Ice controllers

**Raydee** · 08-28-2009, 04:25 PM

Read this post, I thought 150 degree's was Hot
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...1&postcount=14

**Fluid** · 08-28-2009, 06:08 PM

Gadzooks - that's hot alright. Keep it under 250F indeed.....

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**Raydee** · 08-28-2009, 06:14 PM

I was going to email Patrick and see if it was a typo but he did type it twice so maybe it is true.

**alvinsmith75** · 08-28-2009, 06:21 PM

He has to mean 150 and 180. You should print a copy and then e-mail.

**Raydee** · 08-29-2009, 08:37 PM

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...5&postcount=19
There is the response I got from Patrick at Castle about the ICE esc's .......I hope they make a Hydra Ice!

**tth** · 08-29-2009, 08:49 PM

Sounds like it could be good for boats with the High Amp needs!!!

**Steven Vaccaro** · 08-30-2009, 12:49 PM

I can't see why we cant run a airplane version without water cooling if they run that hot?

**tth** · 08-30-2009, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by Steven Vaccaro

I can't see why we cant run a airplane version without water cooling if they run that hot?

My thoughts exactly!!!

**Fluid** · 08-30-2009, 03:39 PM

The problem may be the FETs. Most are rated at 25C (77F), and as the temp increases so does the resistance. Eventually it becomes a spiral to overtemp regardless of how high that is. If the FETs used on the Ice are different, then it may be a somewhat step-changing ESC.

Reasons why boaters may not want to use it - not wheel radio compatable; not efficiently cooled without plenty of air flow; inability to effectively water cool it; not warranteed because it is being used outside its official designed use. All of these could probably be overcome, but I'd wait for the official marine version myself.

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**Ub Hauled** · 08-30-2009, 04:27 PM

Pat told me that a marine version of ICE will be made... that was a few months back at the RCX here in L.A.
He also told me that there were some things that needed to be taken care prior to finalize the Marine version... in other words, it may be some time before one could see one of those ESCs around.
I hope I'm wrong.

**bustitup** · 08-30-2009, 04:48 PM

why dont they just make the existing HV 240 to work as advertized or stop selling them untill there working properly...I really hate to bad mouth CC because I have allways liked there service and products but its just not right to have a $500 esc die on plug in

**Joe Ford** · 09-01-2009, 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by bustitup

why dont they just make the existing HV 240 to work as advertized or stop selling them untill there working properly...I really hate to bad mouth CC because I have allways liked there service and products but its just not right to have a $500 esc die on plug in

Send one of these to me please. I want to see it and will make engineering look at it. Especially now that I'm "one of you" and am getting hooked on boats. Setting up a TT Outlaw 7.5 right now...HV240.

And yes, we will be doing a boat version of the ICE down the road. Hold tight guys.

**bustitup** · 09-01-2009, 05:18 PM

Joe mine got shipped this morning from 33478.....it was shipped priority.....it has a note inside the box with attention to Jen and has my phone number....please look for it.....

Originally Posted by Joe Ford

Send one of these to me please. I want to see it and will make engineering look at it. Especially now that I'm "one of you" and am getting hooked on boats. Setting up a TT Outlaw 7.5 right now...HV240.

And yes, we will be doing a boat version of the ICE down the road. Hold tight guys.

**Joe Ford** · 09-01-2009, 05:22 PM

EXCELLENT! Thank you for chiming in so quickly! I'll keep an eye out for it and have Jenny bring it straight to me. THANK YOU!!!

**Doug Smock** · 09-01-2009, 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by Joe Ford

EXCELLENT! Thank you for chiming in so quickly! I'll keep an eye out for it and have Jenny bring it straight to me. THANK YOU!!!

**Raydee** · 09-01-2009, 05:34 PM

Originally Posted by Joe Ford

Send one of these to me please. I want to see it and will make engineering look at it. Especially now that I'm "one of you" and am getting hooked on boats. Setting up a TT Outlaw 7.5 right now...HV240.

And yes, we will be doing a boat version of the ICE down the road. Hold tight guys.

Yeah Baby, that is what we need! One of the Castle guys actually hooked on boats is great. I bet now we (Boaters) will get more attention like the Flyer's get

By the Way my Ice 75 for one of my heli's came in today...nice looking ESC

**Ub Hauled** · 09-01-2009, 05:47 PM

Originally Posted by Raydee

By the Way my Ice 75 for one of my heli's came in today...nice looking ESC

I have o agree with you Ray, it's a very nice looking ESC... can't wait for the Marine version...

**Joe Ford** · 09-01-2009, 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by Raydee

Yeah Baby, that is what we need! One of the Castle guys actually hooked on boats is great. I bet now we (Boaters) will get more attention like the Flyer's get

By the Way my Ice 75 for one of my heli's came in today...nice looking ESC

LOL!!! It was only a matter of time. I was sent one of the Vac-u-Pickle boats, and tried it out. Instantly hooked. Being from a pylon plane background where 180mph is an everyday occurence I couldn't believe that boat scared the life out of me. LOL Not sure how fast it's going but about 40 I'd say. Now that I've run it every night possible after work I need MORE SPEED. Pond I'm at is flat as a plate of glass every night. Could be 40mph winds (which we get quite often in KS) and still flat water. Protected on 3 sides by trees, and the 4th side by a big berm of earth. Thinking the next one will be a rigger. :) And yep, if you want something done, get one of us hooked. LOL I'm relentless....

And thanks to you both for the kind words re the ICE. Took us a while to design that beauty.

**D. Newland** · 09-01-2009, 06:04 PM

Joe-There's a little FE race going on in Michigan Sept 17th-20th. It would be a terrific R&D trip for you.

**Doug Smock** · 09-01-2009, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by Joe Ford

LOL!!! It was only a matter of time. I was sent one of the Vac-u-Pickle boats, and tried it out. Instantly hooked.

That's one of the boats from the Hydro Shootout right???
I was wondering if it would ever see the water again, glad you're having fun with it!!!

Thanks again for your help with the project!
Doug

**domwilson** · 09-01-2009, 06:41 PM

Joe, Is it safe to run the hydra 120 LV on 4s with the BEC? I've read some say yes and others say no. Can you clarify?

**tth** · 09-01-2009, 07:26 PM

Nice to see you coming into "our" world Joe. Welcome aboard the FE addiction. I have been running nitro boats for many years. FE re-ignited that spark. Thanks for everything that you and Castle have done for all of us.

**RCprince** · 09-01-2009, 07:42 PM

These bad boys even come with a built-in data logger

http://www.castlecreations.com/produ...oenix_ice.html

Data Logging
Ice brings another incredibly useful feature, extensive data logging capabilities. The controllers are able to measure and record many parameters at sample rates that you choose between 10 samples per second and 1 sample per second. Data points include:

* Battery Voltage
* Battery Ripple
* Battery Current
* Controller Temperature
* Controller Input Throttle
* Controller Motor Power Output
* Motor RPM

**Ub Hauled** · 09-01-2009, 08:02 PM

Ain't that sweet!

**Joe Ford** · 09-02-2009, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by D. Newland

Joe-There's a little FE race going on in Michigan Sept 17th-20th. It would be a terrific R&D trip for you.

Only problem is this is the same time as one of our largest events of the year...the NEAT Fair. I will recommend it, but not sure if we have the manpower. We all go to NEAT, and I know tickets are booked way in advance. Will check on it though.

Originally Posted by D.Smock

That's one of the boats from the Hydro Shootout right???
I was wondering if it would ever see the water again, glad you're having fun with it!!!

Thanks again for your help with the project!
Doug

You know it.

That thing ROCKS. I love it. Like I said though...now I need more speed. LOL You don't know how many times I've thought about connecting those 2s FP 5000's in series instead of parallel.

No worries about her ever seeing the water again...she sees it nearly every night and will continue to until I can't hold the radio in my hand from the temps dropping here. Come spring though, she'll be back again.

Originally Posted by domwilson

Joe, Is it safe to run the hydra 120 LV on 4s with the BEC? I've read some say yes and others say no. Can you clarify?

I've run on 4s with the BEC, and I have had it cut out once while doing steady, full throttle circles on the pond. I'm using 2.4 so any voltage drop will do that though. Not sure if the BEC dropped out completely or voltage just sagged a little too much. Either way, officially, I have to recommend using a separate power supply for the receiver and servos. Strictly a matter of safety. I have had a BL 1/8th scale car I just finished go full bore down the road and slam into a mailbox post when the voltage to my rx dropped the slightest bit. Was not pretty...and I'd hate to see what would happen with a boat. I've been using little 2s 800mah lipos with one of the linear BECs off our old Phoenix controllers since that drop out (knew they'd come in handy some day...holding onto them for 2+ years!). Problem solved...

Originally Posted by tth

Nice to see you coming into "our" world Joe. Welcome aboard the FE addiction. I have been running nitro boats for many years. FE re-ignited that spark. Thanks for everything that you and Castle have done for all of us.

I finally "get you guys" now that I'm hooked too. So THANK YOU ALL!!!

ICE boat ESCs will have the same features too so you guys can see what kind of current you're drawing, what your batteries are doing, etc. Going to get an update from the engineers and see what they say about when we may have them out. Let you all know.

**bustitup** · 09-02-2009, 10:45 AM

Joe..tough question coming

while I am waiting for my 240 HV to return from CC..what do you think of me running my hydra 240 LV on 6s2p? motor again is 1527/1y and batts are 2 x 6s 30c 5000mah

and what do you think of using a anti spark arrester to eliminate the big spark on plug in

34" sprintcat hull

**Eodman** · 09-02-2009, 10:51 AM

There's a lot of nice things that the Ice may offer .... but at what price point! After losing 2 Hydra 240's this weekend I have to say I am more than a little gun shy in investing in an even more expensive ESC!

Not trashing Castle here .... just pure economics!

**bustitup** · 09-02-2009, 10:56 AM

Joe this is the spark arrestor I was refering too...some have said use a 1 ohm resister instead of 20 for the 240 hv

what do your techs think of this setup?

if this works dont you think it should be factory installed?

**hebner** · 09-02-2009, 11:18 AM

Bustitup,
I have a Aeromarine Team Believer Cat that is same lenght and has same running surface as your Sprintcat, I use Hydra 240LV, 1527/1Y and 6s2p 35C Elite 5000 been running this set up for @ 1 year never had a problem. Knock on Wood! I will be at the Brandon Model Boaters race on 9/20. Our club the Aquamaniacs will be racing at least three classes. You should try to make it.
Hugh

**bustitup** · 09-02-2009, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by hebner

Bustitup,
I have a Aeromarine Team Believer Cat that is same lenght and has same running surface as your Sprintcat, I use Hydra 240LV, 1527/1Y and 6s2p 35C Elite 5000 been running this set up for @ 1 year never had a problem. Knock on Wood! I will be at the Brandon Model Boaters race on 9/20. Our club the Aquamaniacs will be racing at least three classes. You should try to make it.
Hugh

That is music to my ears Hugh

Few questions
R u using castle link 1,04
Speed
Prop
Using spark arestor?
What timing

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