2015 Michigan Cup Results

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07-07-2015, 09:29 PM
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2015 Michigan Cup Results

High points
Ken Haines 7319

Mr. Warrior
Ken Haines 94

Mr. oops Miss Offshore
Ava Paganelli 79.75 Laps

Michigan Cup

Team "ORCA" 8096
Doug Smock
Don Huff
Mike Ball

Ok so here is day I

P-Limited Hydro

01, Smock, Doug DSM 225 400 300 925 Time of 1:32.93
02, Haines, Ken DSM 400 300 225 925 Time of 1:46.90
03, Huff, Don DSM 169 225 169 563
04, Ball, Mike DSM 25 25 400 450
05, Zola, Bob DSM 300 25 0 325
06, Adam, Daniel DSM 25 169 25 219
07, Davis, Tyler DSM 0 0 127 127

KIDS P-Limited Mono

01, Siewert, Landon DSM 400 300 400 1100
02, Castano, Federico DSM 225 400 300 925
03, Pags, Nina DSM 300 25 0 325

P Cat

1) Mike Pags 1200
2)Ray Schrauwen 5500
3)John Einstein 350
4) Larry Jaques 75

Q-Cat

1) Bob Zola 869
2)Jay Moffet 650
3)Fred Siewert 550
4) Mike Pags 450

8th Scale

01, Paganelli, Mike DSM 400 400 400 1200
02, Smock, Doug DSM 300 300 300 900
03, Joye, Ken DSM 25 25 25 75

P-Limited Offshore

01, Einstein, John DSM 875 1000 975 2850 (Only because he got 10 laps one time)
02,Haines, Ken DSM 950 950 950 2850
03, Davis, Tyler DSM 1000 950 875 2825
04, Burt, Jeff DSM 875 975 900 2750
05, Huff, Don DSM 850 900 925 2675
06, Paganelli, Ava DSM 925 950 775 2650
07, Hineman, Moose DSM 825 950 875 2650
08, Cerankowski, Marc DSM 800 900 875 2575
09, Siewert, Fred DSM 750 775 999 2524
10, Zola, Bob DSM 900 975 600 2475
11, Ball, Mike DSM 525 975 950 2450
12, Siewert, Landon DSM 800 925 725 2450
13, Smock, Doug DSM 375 950 925 2250
14, Schrauwen, Ray DSM 325 800 875 2000
15, Brode, Ken 02 950 999 0 1949
16, Beardslee, Dan DSM 600 725 500 1825
17, Moffatt, Jay DSM 675 425 725 1825
18, Adam, Daniel DSM 250 675 850 1775
19, Davis, Terry DSM 800 300 500 1600
20, Pags, Nina DSM 475 475 600 1550
21, Jaques, Larry 64 175 450 900 1525
22, Howarth, David DSM 0 575 825 1400
23, Castellani, Thomas DSM 0 0 400 400

P-Limited OPC

01, Ball, Mike DSM 300 400 400 1100
02, Smock, Doug DSM 400 169 300 869
03, Siewert, Fred DSM 225 225 25 475
04, Adam, Daniel DSM 25 300 25 350
05, Haines, Ken DSM 0 0 25 25

MMEU SV-27

01, Cerankowski, Marc DSM 400 400 400 1200 Time of 1:48.41
02, Pags, Nina DSM 400 400 400 1200 Time of 2:08.21
03, Einstein, John DSM 225 300 300 825
04, Howarth, David DSM 225 225 225 675
05, Hineman, Moose DSM 169 225 225 619
06, Paganelli, Ava DSM 127 300 169 596
07, Burt, Jeff DSM 169 169 169 507
08, Mosley, Ben DSM 127 0 300 427
09, Adam, Daniel DSM 300 25 25 350
10, Ball, Mike DSM 300 25 25 350
11, Brode, Ken DSM 25 25 25 75
07-07-2015, 09:38 PM
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Michigan Cup Day2

P-Limited Cat

01, Einstein, John DSM 400 400 225 1025
02, Moffatt, Jay DSM 225 225 400 850
04, Haines, Ken DSM 400 25 400 825 Time of 1:59'71
03, Ball, Mike DSM 25 400 400 825 Time of 1:54.29
05, Zola, Bob DSM 400 25 400 825 No Time
06, Castellani, Thomas DSM 25 400 300 725
07, Cerankowski, Marc DSM 300 25 300 625
08, Hineman, Moose DSM 300 25 300 625
09, Howarth, David DSM 300 25 300 625
10, Adam, Daniel DSM 25 300 169 494
11, Burt, Jeff DSM 25 225 225 475
12, Schrauwen, Ray DSM 400 25 25 450
13, Mosley, Ben DSM 300 25 25 350
14, Brode, Ken 02 25 300 25 350
15, Beardslee, Dan DSM 25 25 25 75
16, Gross, John a DSM 25 25 25 75
17, Pags, Nina DSM 0 25 0 25
18, Hoste, Thomas DSM 25 0 0 25
19, Paganelli, Mike DSM 0 0 0 0
20, Siewert, Fred DSM 0 0 0 0

KIDS P-Limited Mono

01, Siewert, Landon DSM 400 400 300 1100
02, Castano castrillon, Federico DSM 300 300 400 1000
03, Pags, Nina DSM 0 0 0 0

P-Mono

01, Haines, Ken DSM 400 400 400 1200
02, Smock, Doug DSM 169 400 400 969
03, Huff, Don DSM 300 300 225 825
04, Paganelli, Ava DSM 300 225 225 750
05, Davis, Terry DSM 400 25 169 594
06, Tucker, Howard DSM 225 300 25 550
07, Schrauwen, Ray DSM 25 169 300 494
08, Einstein, John DSM 225 225 25 475
09, Adam, Daniel DSM 25 25 300 350
10, Castellani, Thomas DSM 127 25 0 152
11, Zola, Bob DSM 25 25 0 50
12, Jaques, Larry DSM 0 0 0 0
13, Moffatt, Jay DSM 0 0 0 0

8th Scale

01, Paganelli, Mike DSM 400 400 300 1100
02, Smock, Doug DSM 300 225 400 925
03, Joye, Ken DSM 0 25 0 25

P-Limited Sport Hydro

01, Smock, Doug DSM 400 400 400 1200
02, Cerankowski, Marc DSM 400 300 400 1100
03, Haines, Ken DSM 400 400 300 1100
04, Ball, Mike DSM 225 400 400 1025
05, Luzenski, Pete DSM 400 300 300 1000
06, Castellani, Thomas DSM 300 25 400 725
07, Gross, John a DSM 225 225 225 675
08, Brode, Ken 02 300 300 25 625
09, Moffatt, Jay DSM 0 400 225 625
10, Einstein, John DSM 127 169 300 596
11, Schrauwen, Ray DSM 25 300 225 550
12, Zola, Bob DSM 300 225 25 550
13, Pags, Nina DSM 300 0 0 300
14, Burt, Jeff DSM 25 25 169 219
15, Howarth, David DSM 25 25 25 75
16, Davis, Tyler DSM 0 0 0 0
17, Jaques, Larry DSM 0 0 0 0
18, Paganelli, Ava DSM 0 0 0 0
19, Adam, Daniel DSM 0 0 0 0

P-Offshore

01, Paganelli, Mike DSM 925 999 825 2749
02, Huff, Don DSM 825 975 850 2650
03, Paganelli, Ava DSM 950 900 775 2625
04, Howarth, David DSM 800 875 575 2250
05, Davis, Tyler DSM 975 975 75 2025
06, Zola, Bob DSM 875 925 0 1800
07, Siewert, Fred DSM 0 999 575 1574
08, Tucker, Howard DSM 125 999 325 1449
09, Castellani, Thomas DSM 0 0 0 0
10, Jaques, Larry DSM 0 0 0 0

Q-Sport Hydro

01, Luzenski, Pete DSM 300 300 400 1000
02, Haines, Ken DSM 400 400 169 969
03, Ball, Mike DSM 169 400 300 869
04, Tucker, Howard DSM 300 300 0 600
05, Moffatt, Jay DSM 225 225 0 450
06, Paganelli, Mike DSM 400 25 0 425
07, Zola, Bob DSM 225 25 25 275
08, Joye, Ken DSM 0 225 0 225
09, Schrauwen, Ray DSM 169 0 0 169
10, Davis, Terry DSM 0 0 0 0
07-07-2015, 09:47 PM
Doby

Hey...you got Ken and I backwards in P-Limited Offshore...this had better be fixed ASAP or I will do the typical American thing and sue all involved!
07-07-2015, 09:54 PM
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Michigan Cup Day3

10th Scale

01, Castellani, Thomas DSM 400 400 400 1200
02, Gross, John a DSM 25 300 0 325
03, Gross, John DSM 300 25 0 325

KIDS P-Limited Mono

01, Siewert, Landon DSM 25 400 0 425
02, Castano castrillon, Federico DSM 25 25 169 219

P-Limited Mono

02, Haines, Ken DSM 400 400 300 1100 Time of 2:03.56
01, Paganelli, Ava DSM 300 400 400 1100 Time of 1:58.46
03, Siewert, Fred DSM 300 225 400 925
04, Castellani, Thomas DSM 400 400 25 825
05, Paganelli, Mike DSM 25 400 400 825
06, Smock, Doug DSM 300 300 169 769
07, Schrauwen, Ray DSM 300 225 169 694
08, Jaques, Larry 64 400 25 225 650
09, Davis, Tyler DSM 25 300 300 625
10, Huff, Don DSM 225 0 400 625
11, Mosley, Ben DSM 225 300 25 550
12, Beardslee, Dan DSM 25 169 300 494
13, Smith, Willie DSM 25 169 300 494
14, Gross, John a DSM 25 225 225 475
15, Zola, Bob DSM 400 25 25 450
16, Cerankowski, Marc DSM 25 127 225 377
17, Howarth, David DSM 225 25 127 377
18, Brode, Ken 02 25 300 25 350
19, Hineman, Moose DSM 96 225 25 346
20, Adam, Daniel DSM 127 169 25 321
21, Burt, Jeff DSM 169 25 25 219
22, Einstein, John DSM 25 127 25 177
23, Hoste, Thomas DSM 0 0 0 0

P-Sport Hydro

01, Luzenski, Pete DSM 400 400 400 1200
02, Haines, Ken DSM 400 25 400 825
03, Davis, Tyler DSM 225 300 225 750
04, Davis, Terry DSM 300 400 25 725
05, Schrauwen, Ray DSM 127 225 300 652
06, Cerankowski, Marc DSM 169 169 300 638
07, Zola, Bob DSM 300 300 25 625
08, Einstein, John DSM 225 25 25 275
09, Moffatt, Jay DSM 25 25 0 50
10, Jaques, Larry 64 25 0 0 25
11, Tucker, Howard DSM 0 0 0 0

Q-Offshore

01, Paganelli, Mike DSM 1000 1075 1150 3225
02, Zola, Bob DSM 925 1000 1050 2975
03, Paganelli, Ava DSM 850 875 975 2700
04, Siewert, Fred DSM 1000 1100 700 2800
05, Huff, Don DSM 775 925 325 2025

T-Sprint

01, Smock, Doug DSM 400 400 400 1200
02, Tucker, Howard DSM 300 300 300 900
03, Einstein, John DSM 169 225 225 619
04, Moffatt, Jay DSM 225 25 169 419
05, Haines, Ken DSM 25 0 0 25
06, Paganelli, Mike DSM 0 0 0 0

T-Hydro

01, Tucker, Howard DSM 400 225 300 925
02, Paganelli, Mike DSM 25 300 400 725
03, Haines, Ken DSM 25 400 25 450
07-07-2015, 10:32 PM
fas

Ok Happy John there you go LOL

Wow what a week it was here are my out takes from the cup this year

was great to see everybody again always class acts great side by side racing and the trash talk that was on the stand was great made me laugh every heat

John and Daniel two guys that will help everybody that needs it even if they don't want the help LOL

Doug and Don the first time I got to meet them and went away thinking I have missed out by not racing with them before now, two of the best guys you could meet. Don asking what Mr. Offshore was on Sunday and then building a boat in about 30 mins before racing to run Q-Offshore

Mike Pags the frist two heats of Q-Offshore were great and the girls always great to race, and Ava drives just like her dad. in a heat of Q-Offshore I am standing next to her at about the 2 Min mark and I hear her say something along the lines of forget you and she pulls the trigger and walks away from me by about 3 boats

Fede was great to watch him and Landon race were some of the best races of the weekend

Howard was great to see you again always enjoy racing with you

Chris Harris what a great time at dinner Saturday night and all weekend Landon is still talking about it and the video of your son LOL

Ray S with a stick in front of his boat that was nasty

all in all it was a great weekend I hope to everybody again next year at the cup and Chris you have to bring more boats and race I wont make you CD like this year

Fred
07-07-2015, 10:47 PM
Doug Smock

Fred,
Thanks again for all of your hard work! Without guys like you we'd all be sport boaters. (Not that there is anything wrong with that of course.):thumbup1:
07-09-2015, 11:22 AM
ray schrauwen

Thanks for everything guys!

C ya next year minus the stick.
07-09-2015, 02:33 PM
R.J.S

What is this Mr Warrior?The winner of Kill Bill style Samuri sword fights on the deck of the Elks after cocktails?
07-11-2015, 01:36 PM
Ken Haines

Fred's Mr Warrior Award

Quote:

Originally Posted by R.J.S

What is this Mr Warrior?The winner of Kill Bill style Samuri sword fights on the deck of the Elks after cocktails?

Hey Jeff,
The explanation is not nearly as funny as your idea. Surprised no one had more fun with your post ......lol

In past year's the Michigan Cup used pure total of raw points for the "High Points" award.
At all the FE Nationals starting in 2008 Dave Newland canvased many racers and came up with
kind of an high point weighted average system to determine the "High Points" winner. Dave's way weighted the points based on how many racers you beat in usually your top 6 classes. The classes used...simply the average number of classes raced by all entries at any given Nats.
(Example: 240 boats entered by 40 total racers = 6 average boats per racer)
This formula lessened the value of some classes for example the larger more expensive boats,
but conversely increased the point value of the classes well attended like the P-Ltd classes and very popular classes like P-mono. For example if there were 20 entries in a particular class 1st place was worth 20 points. It does not matter which classes you race, but all point values were based on the entry totals of that class. At the end of the event they just totaled each racers highest 6 classes for the high points totals. The thought was to make the High Points award reflect the best racer at the event and not just the guy that spends the most money and enters a million classes with fewer boats in the more expensive classes. In my opinion this has been a very successful approach. If you look at past winners starting in 2008(Brian Buaas), 2009 (Dougie Twaits Jr.), 2010 (Dave Newland), 2011 (Jason Sims & Dougie Twaits Jr.), 2012 (Jason Sims), 2013 (Dave Newland), & 2014 (Dave Newland), this system has certainly reflected the best racers.

What Fred did at this year's Michigan Cup is to award the "High Points" again using raw high points and also "Mr Warrior" using the FE Nat's system. I was lucky enough to win both this year, but it was a good unique idea by Fred and surely will be awarded to separate racers in future events.
Hope this long winded post explains to everyone how the current high points systems are in effect today.

....and according to Terry Davis, I went home with 3 trophies
:bounce:
07-11-2015, 02:45 PM
T.S.Davis

Fred and I have been talking about that points thing since Dave cooked it up. It has merit. It awards the best driver. We also wanted to find a way to acknowledge the dedication required to enter a lot of classes. A guy with a T mono and a scale has dropped a lot of coin to play. That same guy had no shot at high points by Dave's system. Having both is what we came up with.

Once upon a time we would use raw accumulated points for the Cup. 4 guys. All their classes. 27000 points. It was a nightmare.

Ken left with 3 trophies. 2 that he won. One that he brought with him.
07-11-2015, 03:41 PM
R.J.S

Thanks Ken for "getting"my post and for the explanation.Congrats on all 3 trophies even though you got beat by a teenage girl in P Ltd Mono!lolOh yeah,I get the 3rd trophy.