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Proboat does not sell the stock liners separate from the flex cables. I recall one of the European members here searching for an identical size replacement and he found something, but I can't find that post. If your replacement fits too loosely in brass stuffing tube, you can shim it with a small lengths of brass tube one size smaller that what's installed in the hull already. I've also wrapped liners with teflon plumbers tape to get a tighter fit.
why run a liner at all ? I don't think anyone runs one at my pond.
The Zelos is finally back in one piece. It's been on and off the work bench all winter. I tore it down at the end of last season to reinforce the hull around the seams at the rear of the boat. Since the hull was basically bare after the inlay work, I kept going. I filled the rudder stand-off with epoxy and chopped carbon and installed blind nuts for the rudder mount. Two deck stringers up front made from carbon plate. New push and twist hatch locks. New Dynamite Fuze motors (rebranded Castle 1515) and MBP wire drive collets. I had to grind the motor mounts to create a little clearance because the new collets are so huge. Two new Turnigy 180A ESC's w/ Castle 6.5mm connectors and a custom carbon power switch mount. I re-ran all wiring and cooling lines and zip-tied all suspect hose barb fittings. I also filed a little more angle into the leading edges of the water pick-ups underneath.
I had plans to blueprint the rear two ride pads, but I need to be done with this boat and finish up all of my other projects first. I may put at least a layer or two of fiberglass cloth on the underside of the hatch since that doesn't require a complete dismantle to accomplish. Between crappy weather, family, and a lingering injury, there's been no time to to run any boats this year. Maybe tomorrow...
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Pics of the water inlets and finished interior
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Looks good. Are the wires from all 4 of your battery wires going to reach from the under the front deck? Because you have the ESC wired for series already eliminating the extra length you can would normally get from the separate series adapters.Quote:
Originally Posted by fweasel
Very nice work! Wouldn’t it be awesome if someone made a carbon center plate for the batteries and servo?
Curious to see how those Dynamite motors work on 6s in this boatQuote:
Originally Posted by fweasel
That was Rafael Lopez's set up. He got 93mph.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brushless55
Not aware of this, I know he used the pro boat 1650kv motors for his record setupQuote:
Originally Posted by MADRCER
You mean his old Record. Dino's boat built by Chris got 95.9mph with TP powerplants. The Dynamite part number for the motors Rafael ran 93mph with was DYNS1630 and they are 2200kv. Below is a link to them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brushless55
https://www.amainhobbies.com/dynamit...ns1630/p450523
More info on speeds are here as well.
https://forums.offshoreelectrics.com...elos+fast+list
I would love to see his run with those Dynamite motors.
Confused about ABC 1715 props.
Hi Guys I have being testing my new ABC 1715 props but boat keep flipping over around 90 Km/h. Before I run whit CNC 45 mm 1,4 picth. And the boat run 115 Km/h whit struts set at 2 mm. And it ran solid whit no flips. 1,st test whit ABC I set struts at 2 mm but it keep flipping over. Then I put struts down to 0 mm it still keep flipping over around 90 km/t.
The last test I did the boat flip really bad and hit the bottom of the lake in the low section and destroy the hull.
Do you guys think it can be repaired I dont have much experience whit fiber work :help: a new hull Is out of stock in EU and will not stock before 26-07-2018. And US shipping is not and option because hull is to big.
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If I remember rightly when some of the ABC props were used on some cats they gave less lift @ the rear allowing the bow to rise & blow over.
correct on the higher * props you want to go faster it requires additional adjustments just like anything else !!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by martin
Im not sure what you mean. so far I lean that there are no lift or high lift props. But only adjustment options I have Is struts angle and batteri placement . So far nothing helps. :confused2:Quote:
Originally Posted by dasboata
With the ABC props, the struts should be below "0" about 1.5mm to 2mm Not above"0"
Larry
So Larry stock setting is 4 mm above zero. So what your saying is I should try 1,5 to 2 mm below zero. ? is that because the ABC prop have no lift like the CNC props have ??Quote:
Originally Posted by TRUCKPULL
The ABC have less lift an a lot more thrust.
With that much thrust at the water line, it pushes the bow up and over.
That is why you have to point the struts down, Then the thrust is pushing the rear end up a little, thus holding the bow down.
Larry
Somebody correct me if I’m wrong. The way I read the manual is the 4mm stock setting is parallel, or neutral or zero (whatever you want to call it). So to go 1.5 to 2mm Down or negative you would set the strut at 2.5mm or 2mmQuote:
Originally Posted by prepered
The 4mm above zero setting is where ProBoat has determined would be a good starting point with the stock props. Changing to a set of ABC or other props, would mean making adjustments to the center of gravity and or strut heights. That 4mm setting ProBoat recommends is not zero. Look at page 8 in the zelos instruction manual. That picture will explain things better than I can with words. I don't run my struts below zero. But, not everyones set up will be the same. What works for me may not work for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by REDLINE1
true that...Quote:
Originally Posted by dasboata
FYI 4MM up from the bottom sponsons, measuring with your straight edge from the mid point of the second ride pad is 0° or some call "Neutral" which means your struts are parallel and on the same plane with your sponsons. You go up (positive) or down (negative) from the 0° neutral setting. My boat loves the abc props...well... I love the abc props on it...Quote:
Originally Posted by prepered
Vinny you are incorrect. 0° Is considered neutral or on the same plane as the ride pads for this boat, which is 4MM above the sponsons.Quote:
Originally Posted by vinnyp
Mark,
yes I agree with you. The 4mm setting is 0* to the pads. I was referring to 0 mm being negative trim. :smile:
Hi guys Thank for all the info.
The ABC props I cannot keep the bow down. When its picking up speed and I keep the throttle down it flip all the time even whit struts at 0 mm and 4x3 3s pushed all the way forward.
So really can't find out what im doing wrong. :Sinking:
Whit the TFL CNC 45 mm props and struts set to 2 mm its running perfect. So guess the ABC 1715 is just a bad choice of props for this boat. :ThumbsDown01:
The Video is whit CNC 45 mm props.
https://youtu.be/Ybyv5yZGrK4
Your balance or strut settings are off if it's flipping on decent water. Here is a video of my Zelos running ABC 1715 props.Quote:
Originally Posted by prepered
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKIl5o-dUvo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKIl5o-dUvo&t=24s
MADRCER nice video and absolute awesome speed. What are your strut setting your setup looks completely the same as mine. except mine keeping blowing over :confused1:Quote:
Originally Posted by MADRCER
Thanks! The 1715's aren't my fastest props but they aren't too shabby. My settings change depending on what type of water I'm running on and my battery setup for that day. When I just want to have fun with the boat, generally I have around a 3mm gap or so between my setup board and my strut. But if I want to chase "gps numbers" I raise them up more. Some believe in adding more weight up front but I like to get decent speeds and still have a stable maneuverable boat, so I like to steer away from that method. Just make small adjustments (along with notes) until you find your sweet spot. Good luck with it!Quote:
Originally Posted by prepered
Why don't you try adding an airdam on your various cats, these work great in holding the boat down & preventing blowovers. Allowing you to use adjustments for speed increases ie c/g & strut settings that would normally blow the boat over in certain conditions @ high speeds.Quote:
Originally Posted by MADRCER
I like airdams Martin and I've tried a couple different versions and they seem to work good for the most part but I have always ran my fastest speeds without one, so I really don't put that on my "must do" list before a run. They seem work better in race type waters when you are getting more bow lift from other boats wakes.Quote:
Originally Posted by martin
I know when Travis was settng up his 26" Minicat he was getting up to around 84mph I believe but was having to manage the throttle & not able to hold full throttle to long because of blowovers. He fitted an airdam ( carbon rod ) & went up to around 92mph with the boat running flatter & planted.Quote:
Originally Posted by MADRCER
got me a new lelos .. nice boat ,on the first run other day on 2 hrb 6000mah packs i was getting some bow bouncing wide open and kept getting out of it for fear of a blow over lol its all stock . i had the front of the batteries strapped with secnd and 3rd row of straps . should i move them closer to the front ?