And what class do we run at the nats?????
And what class do we run at the nats?????
Great idea under the circumstances fellas.
NAMBA BOD should rescind the rule since it was presented under false pretense- they admitted to never teching any of it in the "trial period".
Which nats Mike? Are you heading down for 2 classes a day for 8 days?Quote:
Originally Posted by madmikepags
For our nats up here I've been told under no circumstances are we going to run anything outside of the IMPBA rules. Correct motors and registrations are an absolute must. Drive dog position . What ever is in there.
Double again. Dang it!
NOBODY wants that job Brian.
There aren't 57 scale FE guys but for a minute let's say there are. How do those extra 300 guys that voted for this feel about it now I wonder.Quote:
Originally Posted by don ferrette
I actually voted "yes" on this before this thread even became alive. A case of don't know anything... but figured I'd trust the BODs and those racing the class whom wrote the proposal knew what was best.Quote:
Originally Posted by T.S.Davis
I've had that pushed down my throat lately... :hornets_nest:
:huh:
People shouldn't vote on things that have no effect on the classes they run.
That's why they by passed Brian.
Don't feel that's totally fair. Maybe its on something a person may want to fun in the future.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doby
Myself... no. I'm just trying to be an evolved participant in the process.
Funny how many want more participation and votes cast on important issues, but when things don't go the way they want... this is what we start to hear.
With all that said... I do honestly wish I had waited a little longer to cast my vote. And I do believe this discussion should have been taking place before the rule was sent out for vote...
But what do I know...? I over talk and over analysis everything.
See what happens when you don't have people like me involved to analyze and talk about things?
Okay... that was seriously just a joke. I have to put it out there because it just makes me laugh. But it IS said tongue in cheek.
But, I'm out of this conversation. I know nothing and will just sit back with my popcorn. :popcorn2:
It's VERY easy to see how something like this can happen if you read the NAMBA rule regarding the amendment process. Section 7. Unless the process is changed the chance of something like this happening again is 100%.
Maybe something good will come out of this mess.
I'm confident that if it doesn't it won't be for the lack of somebody trying:wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by raptor347
Annnndddd he's back! Now your favorite blowhard is posting on I/W about FE limits overall. NAMBA is F'd if they don't adopt some rules to give their BOD some teeth to stop stupid stuff like what just happened and what will continue to happen with those clowns running loose..........Quote:
Originally Posted by Doug Smock
Why does anyone care? Who is this Bozo?
We care because he and a couple others are totally F'n things up in NAMBA. Why care even if we're IMPBA? Well for openers FE 1/8th scale was one of the classes the boats could easily cross over between orgs (yes there were guys running both), rules were virtually the same. Now they've made anything over 8S illegal as well as created limits for Kv, mah, C ratings and even prop size. Not to mention the guy who penned the rule sells the stuff they are now required to run. Let that sink in for a moment...........Quote:
Originally Posted by Doby
I get the cross organizational thingy...I'd love to see that as well. I guess I should have just asked the second part of the question.
I did some reading on I/W today... The "Electric Rules" thread... Good stuff...
There was some discussion in there about how IMPBA has mechanisms in place for the BODs to pull rule proposals if they think they are not good while NAMBA does not have that mechanism.
Brings up two questions:
1.) How did the NAMBA BODs pull the P-Limited motor proposal a few months back? The one which would have change the current list to the dimensional limits of 37mm x 62mm. I'll assume the answer may be that the individual(s) whom submitted the proposal pulled it, but looking for some clarification.
2.) I now fully get that the IMPBA BODs had/has the authority to pull any P-Limited/Spec motor proposals they don't like. But what mechanism is in place for the IMPBA BODs to take a P-Limited/Spec motor proposal and set rules for a FE Nationals event without a membership vote? Maybe they're being done as demonstration classes??? I'll assume there will be no IMBPA FE National Titles or anything like that since there is no motor rule in the book. Again... looking for some clarification.
This may well spell the end of NAMBA FE east of California. The ease with which the scale rules were floated in is an indication of what could follow. The whole limits for all idea would be easy to pass too. It would stop any cross over racing between orgs.
"You should have included a rule that required the bearings be lubricated with the souls of dead spiders."...I almost pissed myself when I read this!!!!
Dave, The P-ltd motor proposal was pulled by the club/district that put it forward after the 1415 compacts came into existence. That wasn't the direction I think any of us wanted the class to go.
1. Why would you build an FE 1/8 for your first FE boat? That's not the best starting place.
2. The club that proposed the change doesn't travel and their boats were legal under the old rule. Why change the national rule set?
This souls of dead spiders thing. I hope that's all species. And have you tried to find any? I'm afraid to do a Google search.:laugh:
1. I think there are a number of gas/nitro guys that have experience building these scale boats and want to get into FE but are intimidated by the knowledge necessary to put the right electronics in the boat.Quote:
Originally Posted by raptor347
2. I agree with you there. That whole thing doesn't make much sense. But I guess that will need some time to play out. Will this new rule set cause these guys to start traveling? Will this new rule cause more some cross over from gas/nitro? and thus the gas/nitro guys whom already travel may start to build more boats to fit these rules.
Thank you Brian for answering my question # 1 in regard to the NAMBA proposal that was pulled.
Now let's see if anyone from IMPBA steps up to answer question # 2 from post 139.
Moderator hat on.:wink:
Moved IMPBA posts here. https://forums.offshoreelectrics.com...cussion/page11
Any more IMPBA related posts on this thread will be deleted.
Please post in the appropriate forum fellas.
Thanks in advance,:tiphat:
Sorta like a couple that were way over charging at nats in Washington..Quote:
Originally Posted by raptor347
Lmfao he’s racing sailboatsQuote:
Originally Posted by raptor347
I voted no.