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  • Basstronics
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Jun 2008
    • 2345

    #31
    lol Im uploading it right now. Says 41 more minutes... ouch!



    I rotated the end bell. I prick-punched the center of each hole location. I then #1 center drilled (only the tip portion!), tap drill 3/32" and then I tapped on location. Using Tap Magic for Aluminum no threads pulled and it all cut like warm butter!

    Of course CorrosionX was applied twice to ensure coverage.

    I then slid some silicone tubing down on the wires to make a grommet. Shes back together better than factory new!
    Last edited by Basstronics; 09-22-2013, 04:19 PM.
    42" Osprey, 32" Pursuit, 26" Bling Rocket (rescue), Blizzard Rigger, JAE 21FE rigger, Hobby King rigger (RIP)

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    • lenny
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Sep 2010
      • 4294

      #32

      Sorry love video's.
      ? ONLY IF THEY WORK

      My youtube videos.http://www.youtube.com/user/61manx?feature=mhee

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      • smileday
        Member
        • Apr 2013
        • 35

        #33
        Thank you for the video. Nice demonstration.
        Actually the wrap has two layers, if you cut the black carbon fiber outside, you can see the yellow Kevlar inside.


        Originally posted by Basstronics
        lol Im uploading it right now. Says 41 more minutes... ouch!



        I rotated the end bell. I prick-punched the center of each hole location. I then #1 center drilled (only the tip portion!), tap drill 3/32" and then I tapped on location. Using Tap Magic for Aluminum no threads pulled and it all cut like warm butter!

        Of course CorrosionX was applied twice to ensure coverage.

        I then slid some silicone tubing down on the wires to make a grommet. Shes back together better than factory new!

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        • Peter A
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Sep 2012
          • 1486

          #34
          Hi Smileday
          Thanks for your reply. I got the motor from RcBoatBitz in Aussie. The motor and it's box both say 2200kv. It is just too much hassle to try and change it, after all they supplied what was ordered. The motor itself I am reasonably happy with, it runs well, barely gets warm, even after running 11laps. Timing was set at 15* and temps were low so is it possible that it is a Y wind, and should I change the timing? Would I see any improvement?

          Originally posted by smileday
          Your dealer may have ordered the 6D from our company according to the old data on tppower.com (we keep this data unchanged for the buyer of the old version, but should have given the new data to the dealers, need to confirm), but actually got a new version 6D which should be 2010 kv. Not sure about the label thing. The other possibility is measurement error. The data on the USA website is correct for new generation.

          You can communicate with your local dealer to see if you can exchange your motor to a 4050 3Y (2220 kv) on their shipping. If not, contact [email protected], address to Candy, describe what you think and see what she said. I do have the 2220 kv in us warehouse but it cost much time and money to ship from here. Contact us is the final solution if she do not have a stock.

          Sorry for consuming you some time for looking for a solution. Sometimes confusion may be caused when a product was upgraded to new generation. Hope you understand. In addition, for the same winding, the kv of new generation become lower than the old version one, which is an indication of the improvement of the magnets. You just need to get the one you need to know how powerful it is. Even with the one you have now, it is not necessarily that " I'm definitely going slower than with the cheap aquastar motor I previously was running" since the efficiency of our motors are very high. We have lots of customers who are worlds racers in Europe can prove this. Will publish some email feedbacks after getting their approval on the website in the future.

          The next prop I have is an x447/3, it needs a little detoungueing, thinning and balancing. That may give problems with the flex however as I'm only running .150. I may test the aquastar but i'll have to put some bullets on the leads first.

          With a better more robust motor you should be able to prop up. Did you KV test the Aquastar?
          NZMPBA 2013, 2016 Open Electric Champion. NZMPBA 2016 P Offshore Champion.
          2016 SUHA Q Sport Hydro Hi Points Champion.
          BOPMPBC Open Mono, Open Electric Champion.

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          • smileday
            Member
            • Apr 2013
            • 35

            #35
            Your timing seems too high. We suggested 0 to 10 degree for the setting. 0 degree might be better, or 4 degree, 5 degree like that.

            Originally posted by Peter A
            Hi Smileday
            Thanks for your reply. I got the motor from RcBoatBitz in Aussie. The motor and it's box both say 2200kv. It is just too much hassle to try and change it, after all they supplied what was ordered. The motor itself I am reasonably happy with, it runs well, barely gets warm, even after running 11laps. Timing was set at 15* and temps were low so is it possible that it is a Y wind, and should I change the timing? Would I see any improvement?




            The next prop I have is an x447/3, it needs a little detoungueing, thinning and balancing. That may give problems with the flex however as I'm only running .150. I may test the aquastar but i'll have to put some bullets on the leads first.

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            • Peter A
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Sep 2012
              • 1486

              #36
              Originally posted by smileday
              Your timing seems too high. We suggested 0 to 10 degree for the setting. 0 degree might be better, or 4 degree, 5 degree like that.
              Why such low timing, 4 pole motors normally seem to run 10-15*? But I'll give it a try next time out. Thanks.
              NZMPBA 2013, 2016 Open Electric Champion. NZMPBA 2016 P Offshore Champion.
              2016 SUHA Q Sport Hydro Hi Points Champion.
              BOPMPBC Open Mono, Open Electric Champion.

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              • smileday
                Member
                • Apr 2013
                • 35

                #37
                In general, the low timing setting results in higher efficiency. We suggest 0 timing for the setting option of Castle speed controllers, where there is actually very small amount of advance preset.

                Originally posted by Peter A
                Why such low timing, 4 pole motors normally seem to run 10-15*? But I'll give it a try next time out. Thanks.

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                • Peter A
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 1486

                  #38
                  What about with a T-180?
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                  2016 SUHA Q Sport Hydro Hi Points Champion.
                  BOPMPBC Open Mono, Open Electric Champion.

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                  • Rumdog
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 6453

                    #39
                    Speed controller and poles have nothing to do with timing. The motors wind style does. d is 0-10, WYE is 10-15

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                    • smileday
                      Member
                      • Apr 2013
                      • 35

                      #40
                      Here is some reference that explain in more detail from Neumotors (the last two sections about the castle and other type ESC). We got similar results when test different motors. For "D", 0-10 is recommended; for "Y", 0-15 is recommended.



                      I suggest you can try several timing to find the best working point for you. Usually, low timing results in more efficiency but sacrifice some speed. If you can add one more cell, we suggest low timing to get better efficiency and also good speed.


                      Originally posted by Peter A
                      What about with a T-180?
                      Last edited by smileday; 09-25-2013, 05:26 PM.

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                      • Peter A
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Sep 2012
                        • 1486

                        #41
                        5S is some thing I'm considering, but I'll just prop up for now, and lower the timing!

                        Originally posted by smileday
                        Here is some reference that explain in more detail from Neumotors (the last two sections about the castle and other type ESC). We got similar results when test different motors. For "D", 0-10 is recommended; for "Y", 0-15 is recommended.



                        I suggest you can try several timing to find the best working point for you. Usually, low timing results in more efficiency but sacrifice some speed. If you can add one more cell, we suggest low timing to get better efficiency and also good speed.
                        NZMPBA 2013, 2016 Open Electric Champion. NZMPBA 2016 P Offshore Champion.
                        2016 SUHA Q Sport Hydro Hi Points Champion.
                        BOPMPBC Open Mono, Open Electric Champion.

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