Old Dominion Model Boat Association- Chesapeake, VA

[hazegry]

if you cant beat them restrict them I hope chuck can run it so he can keep up with the points race. I got my IMPBA card today so now I just have to pay club dues it looks like I am going to make the d12 race I dont know if I will have the 18 to enter the boat or not but i will be at the race.

[Chilli]

I'm allot of things Danny, but intellectual is not one of them. Different things have different meanings to different people. I hate the "Blah" emotioncon because to me that's the same as my kid saying "whatever" which translates to "I don't care what you have to say". Anyhow, if I took your post in the wrong way, I apologize.

The "P-spec" classes are a specialized district class only. No rules for these classes exist in the IMPBA Rule book. IMO- your hull is legal but my opinion doesnt mean squat. I'll try and get a final answer within a day or two.

[egneg]

Calm down guys!

I have other options open to me so don't sweat the small stuff.

[hazegry]

just want the FE guy to stay on top lol

[Diegoboy]

Thank you Mike. I too apologize, but for my poorly expressed ignorance.
I was under the impression that Nitro boats had a minimum length, but mo max, and FE had had a Maximum length, but no min.
maybe this rumor is a merger of the nitro rule with the FE rule?? Just a thought.
Correct me if I'm wrong please, but if 3 or more FE boats enter a particular class, the IMPBA rules say that they HAVE to let them race.
Therefore the "The district did not have to let us run with the nitro guys ths year, but they did on a trial basis" comment has me confused. This is to run WITH nitro boats, not run FE alone right?

Jason, I like that...
If you can't beat'em, Restrict'em till they quit! LOL

[Chilli]

Yes Danny, You are correct. The district will allow any IMPBA class to run as long as it has a minimum of three entries.

The trial rules that the District approved did two things. It created the P-spec classes in D12 and it allowed nitro and FE classes to run combined. Running combined has benifited us in two major ways this year. First, It allows us to register for a race without worrying if we were going to make the three boat minimum. Secondly it has given the district FE exposure at more races. Lets face it, the ODMBA race is the only race this year that we will have more than three FE's in a class.

I hate bad mouthing the IMPBA because these guys arn''t getting paid for what they do. But I agree the rule book needs some serious work. The posted "rule book" is out of date and all the changes and trials are spread out over sereval years of Roostertail newsletters. The thing is train wreck!!!

[Diegoboy]

So when is the next race?

[Chilli]

ODMBA club has a face book account. There is a link to the club schedule. Next club race for you guys is Sept 12th.

Also make sure Dick has your email address so he can send you club emails.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Old-Dominion-Model-Boat-Association-ODMBA/278187492808

[Diegoboy]

Thanks Mike

[Chilli]

Have fun and you guys let me know how you do!

Tropical storm warnings are up for the whole Norfolk/ VA Beach area. Be carefull!!!

[don ferrette]

Thank you Mike. I too apologize, but for my poorly expressed ignorance.
I was under the impression that Nitro boats had a minimum length, but mo max, and FE had had a Maximum length, but no min.
maybe this rumor is a merger of the nitro rule with the FE rule?? Just a thought.
Correct me if I'm wrong please, but if 3 or more FE boats enter a particular class, the IMPBA rules say that they HAVE to let them race.
Therefore the "The district did not have to let us run with the nitro guys ths year, but they did on a trial basis" comment has me confused. This is to run WITH nitro boats, not run FE alone right?

Jason, I like that...
If you can't beat'em, Restrict'em till they quit! LOL

Let's get a couple things straight -

1- maximum length and weight for IMPBA boats is 60" and 25 pounds. Some classes do have minimums as well, depends on the particular class.
2- there is no rule that says if you have 3 of anything then you have to let them race. 3 boats has been a general minimum for an established class to run at a race but that can be raised or even lowered (example: the IndyMasters next week had a 12 boat minimum per class). Any new classes are subject to district approval and as it stands right now we will probably need to cut something out to make any room for a new class. I'm looking into various options for the 2011 season but we still have 2010 to finish.
3- the quote- "The district did not have to let us run with the nitro guys this year, but they did on a trial basis" is 100% correct and we spent a good deal of time making it a viable and fair situation before it ever went before the D12 members. Host clubs can deviate and/or add to established classes as was done for FE at the ODMBA race (180 shootout) with approval.
4- the rulebook is being worked on and updated but it is a slow and painstaking process but it will happen so please be patient, major changes should happen this winter.
5- I am the IMPBA D12 Director as well as the National Gas Director.

'nuff said.

Hopefully we can continue to grow FE and make it more permanent but for now we take it one step at a time and a couple of you need to take a chill pill and not jeopardize what we have worked hard on to accomplish so far.

[Diegoboy]

We all know who you are Don.
We all hope the rules are updated with US in mind

[Diegoboy]

Hopefully we can make room for a "non spec" class that's not mono hulls!

Maybe we can take a poll on what FE classes we're interested in running next year.

I'm down for
1:8 hydro
P-hydro and/or rigger

[don ferrette]

We all know who you are Don.

Obviously that is not the case there Danny as below was said a little bit back in this thread-
"No one on this board is a District 12 officer so I suggest you contact the IMPBA District 12 Director for your answer."
Rather than having to answer numerous p/m's or e-mails I gave everyone the answers here. With that being said again a couple of you guys need to just chill and work with those who are trying to give FE a place to play in D12. As I said before one step a time and we'll see how it goes. It's really quite simple, either get on board with the D12 group and go mainstream or continue to play in obscurity ....... I like the first option for everyone personally.

[don ferrette]

Hopefully we can make room for a "non spec" class that's not mono hulls!

Maybe we can take a poll on what FE classes we're interested in running next year.

Patience grasshoppa, patience.

With me building some FE this winter that's not "P-Spec" I'm hoping for the same thing.

But first the FE participation needs to be consistent to show it's worth.