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  • D. Newland
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Dec 2007
    • 1030

    #1

    Scottsdale, Az Club dates for '10/'11

    Club dates have been set up for the remainder of '10, and the beginning of '11:

    Sunday, Oct 17th
    Sunday, Nov 21st
    Sunday, Dec 19th
    Sunday, Jan 16th

    Winter Warmups VII: Feb 25th-27th. More on this soon.

    Club classes: P-Limited OPC, P-Limited Sport Hydro, P-Limited Offshore and P-Limited Hydro.

    3 boat min. Any other 3 boats in a class can run, too.

    McKellips Pond, 7900 E McKellips Rd, Scottsdale, Az

    Registration: 9:00.

    Start time: 9:30.

    If there are any questions, let me know!
    Last edited by D. Newland; 09-16-2010, 05:23 PM.
  • properchopper
    • Apr 2007
    • 6968

    #2
    Originally posted by D. Newland
    Club dates have been set up for the remainder of '10, and the beginning of '11:

    Sunday, Oct 17th
    Sunday, Nov 21st
    Sunday, Dec 19th
    Sunday, Jan 16th

    Winter Warmups VII: Feb 25th-27th. More on this soon.

    Club classes: OPC, LSH, P-Limited Offshore and P-Limited Hydro.

    3 boat min. Any other 3 boats in a class can run, too.

    McKellips Pond, 7900 E McKellips Rd, Scottsdale, Az

    Registration: 9:00.

    Start time: 9:30.

    If there are any questions, let me know!

    Hmmmm.... Gotta' talk to the SoCal guys.... Road Trip !!!

    is OPC Spec-OPC ?
    2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
    2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
    '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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    • D. Newland
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Dec 2007
      • 1030

      #3
      Yes-I changed it.

      And, yes-get some companionship in Feb...or sooner!

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      • D. Newland
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Dec 2007
        • 1030

        #4
        Club race results from 10/17

        Sorry for the delay...been busy!

        P-Limited Offshore:

        Paul Winegarner 38 laps
        Pete Wijatyk 30/1/4 laps
        David Newland 20 3/4 laps
        Gary Rose 13 1/4 laps

        LSH

        David Newland 825
        Pete Wijatyk 725
        Dick Roberts 450
        Paul Winegarner 350
        Gary Rose 350


        OPC

        Dick Roberts 1100
        David Newland 925
        Paul Winegarner 493
        Pete Wijatyk 275
        Gary Rose 275

        P-Ltd Hydro

        Paul Winegarner 450
        Pete Wijatyk 450
        Dick Roberts 425


        We had to use our "backup" pond due to a very serious weed issue at our primary pond. We had a very hot September, so the weeds didn't die off in time for our first race. Our back-up pond makes racing a bit unusual, as we have to stand really close to the Turn 1 buoy. It's certainly a different perspective racing from that vantage point.

        Paul has his Cyberstorm dialed in for P-Ltd O/S and ran away with that class. Pete and I suffered a number of buoy cuts, and I was working on new boat gremlins with a recently built Cyberstorm. We'll be more prepared for Paul next race.

        LSH-I'm working with a new turn fin on my Insane 30, and liking it. Flying off of the point buoy in heat 3 kept me from a perfect round, but it was still enough for a 1st place. Pete was right behind with his Buass shovel.

        OPC-Congratulations to Dick Roberts for winning this class with is Cobra Tunnel. He has that thing dialed in and he drove it better than he ever has before! Nobody had anything for him!

        P-Ltd Hydro: Tough class. Buoy hits, boat hits, etc. etc. Fortunately, no real damage that I recall, but not the best showing w/the riggers that day! Next time.

        November 21st is our next Club Race and it's scheduled at McKellips Pond. I will find out from a local if the weed problem is no longer when we get closer to that date!

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        • properchopper
          • Apr 2007
          • 6968

          #5
          Splendid showing, Mi Amigos. Man, it's getting tougher and tougher for an old duffer like me to keep up with you all - Oh wait; Dick's older than me & has the deal dialed in too
          2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
          2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
          '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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          • properchopper
            • Apr 2007
            • 6968

            #6
            Wait a minute ! You're running Cyberstorm 32's in P-Limited Offshore ? Do I have to trade in my T-29 for a bigger boat ??? OK I'll ask : what Spec motor in the Cyber 32 ?
            2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
            2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
            '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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            • D. Newland
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Dec 2007
              • 1030

              #7
              Go w/the Cyberstorm if you want a slower and more stable boat...but I know that may not compute. UL1 motor and X442. Drawing about 4200-4400 mAh's for a 4 min race.

              My Patriot is much faster around the course, but the Nat's proved that you've got to slow down and have a much more stable setup for P-Ltd O/S. Only 2 guys finished all 4 heats.

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              • Darin Jordan
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Apr 2007
                • 8335

                #8
                Originally posted by D. Newland
                Go w/the Cyberstorm if you want a slower and more stable boat...but I know that may not compute. UL1 motor and X442. Drawing about 4200-4400 mAh's for a 4 min race.
                David... I'm really kind of surprised that someone would choose to run a UL1 motor for Offshore... especially in a bigger mono? Obviously, it was made to work, but I would think one would be better served by stepping the motor down in KV and running a similar pitch, but larger diameter prop (X447 or similar) to help maintain the "bite" when the coarse gets choppy. Also, the pull out of the turns on the BJ motor, for example, is pretty substantial...

                Interesting...
                Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
                "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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                • properchopper
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 6968

                  #9
                  Originally posted by D. Newland
                  Go w/the Cyberstorm if you want a slower and more stable boat...but I know that may not compute. UL1 motor and X442. Drawing about 4200-4400 mAh's for a 4 min race.

                  My Patriot is much faster around the course, but the Nat's proved that you've got to slow down and have a much more stable setup for P-Ltd O/S. Only 2 guys finished all 4 heats.
                  Thanks. Got some thinking to do
                  2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
                  2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
                  '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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                  • properchopper
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 6968

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Darin Jordan
                    David... I'm really kind of surprised that someone would choose to run a UL1 motor for Offshore... especially in a bigger mono? Obviously, it was made to work, but I would think one would be better served by stepping the motor down in KV and running a similar pitch, but larger diameter prop (X447 or similar) to help maintain the "bite" when the coarse gets choppy. Also, the pull out of the turns on the BJ motor, for example, is pretty substantial...

                    Interesting...
                    That's my take as well - my T29/BJ 1500 KV boat is what I was planning on, but.....?? Or maybe my old DF33 with the BJ...? Maybe the 1800 BJ ??
                    2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
                    2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
                    '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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                    • D. Newland
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 1030

                      #11
                      In an effort to keep all of my equipment consistent, I have set up my P-Ltd racing program around just one motor. It's working, but I would go w/the 1800 Kv motors for P-Ltd O/S if I wasn't focused on equipment consistency.

                      My Patriot ran the UL-1 motor and an X444 at the Nat's and it was fantastic, but there was 1 heat where I flipped at lap 7...

                      The water gets chopped up pretty good when there are 5-7 boats out there for 4 min's, and you can't take your Sprint racing mentality and apply it to Offshore racing...at least I don't anymore. I just hope I continue to remember that.

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                      • D. Newland
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 1030

                        #12
                        Sunday, November 21st Club race

                        The weather wasn't on our side today with wind/rain throughout the day, but we had more members than ever before! 5 classes officially ran, with 1 other class that was thrown in there a few times for giggles. 10 guys total, and that's good for us.

                        2 new guys, George Morris and Vu (don't know last name), showed up on a whim with some fantastic Q mono's. They are from the heli/plane side of the hobby and had 2 Cyberstorm's outfitted with 6S and Leopard motors. Screaming fast, but there's some more tuning yet to be done! Hopefully, they will get those running in P-Ltd and/or P trim for our WW VII race in February.

                        Also, we ran our first ever 1/10th Vintage Scale class! We had 3 drivers, Gary Rose, Leonard Feeback and Ted McKay, and they go their boats around the course (and in a bit of wind, too) in fine fashion.

                        P-Ltd Offshore:

                        Paul Winegarner: 36 1/2 laps and frickin' unstoppable
                        David Newland: 34 laps
                        Pete Wijetek: 25 1/4 laps
                        Ted McKay: 20 1/4 laps
                        Dave Zelinka: 16 laps
                        Gary Rose: 4 laps

                        Paul's Cyberstorm kept getting better as the wind picked up throughout the day, and he has that thing set up to run full throttle for 4 minutes, no matter the water conditions. He had a perfect day with that boat.

                        This was Ted's first race with us, coming from the gas/nitro side, and ran a Miss Geico. He got tripped up the 1st heat, but had solid finishes for heats 2 and 3. The boad was solid, but we'll work on a different prop selection once we've got a good handle on his amp draw.

                        Unfortunately, Pete's boat found the concrete wall in round three, and hit it dead-on. When we got the boat back, the damage didn't look to bad, but there was something weird about the inside of the boat. The Hyperion G3's were still in place, but it turned out that it was only the shrink wrap that was in place...the actual cells ejected from the shrink and ended up in the nose of his hull! Undamaged, too.

                        P-Ltd OPC

                        Paul Winegarner: 450 pts
                        Dave Zelinka: 450 pts
                        David Newland: 425 pts
                        Pete Wijetek: 325 pts

                        Not a good day for tunnels as the weather conditions worsened throughout the day.

                        P-Ltd Hydro

                        Paul Winegarner: 825 pts
                        Pete Wijetek: 725 pts
                        Gary Rose: 50 pts

                        All Jae FE's running, and Paul and Pete had theirs running very well. Round 2, Gary and Paul got tangled up on the front stretch, and Paul took a hit to the port side tub area. As he rounded the course again, we could see a 4" hole in the tub, but the boat kept going. He finished the heat (won it), and brought it immediately to shore. The tub filled with water as soon as the ass end sat down, but the guy on shore retrieved it quickly.

                        Vintage 1/10th scale

                        Leonard Feeback: 1100 pts
                        Ted McKay: 725 pts
                        Gary Rose: 75 pts

                        Great to have this class running at our pond, and they were good lookin' boats, too. Leonard had the consistency to take this class, even though Ted had a quite a bit more speed. Great driving...no carnage!

                        LSH

                        David Newland 800 pts
                        Gary Rose: 325 pts
                        Pete Wijetek: 50 pts
                        Paul Winegarner: 50 pts

                        Tough day for these boats, so we didn't even race the 3rd round. The guys w/the shovel's just didn't want to be beaten again by my Insane...Paul does have a Whip under construction that should be ready by next month! And congratulations to Gary for getting 2nd, running a UL-1 Sport Hydro.

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                        • properchopper
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 6968

                          #13
                          Good Stuff !! Congrat's to all. Great to hear attendance is growing. Feb is going to be a ball. I'm stocking up on Bondo now
                          2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
                          2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
                          '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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                          • D. Newland
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 1030

                            #14
                            Photos of our club event (thanks, Leonard!), can be found here.

                            T-take a close look at the water conditions for P-Ltd O/S. That's why we're running the Cyberstorms!

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                            • properchopper
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 6968

                              #15
                              Awesome photos - Thanks ! Yeah, a bit "choppy"
                              2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
                              2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
                              '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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