P-Limited Motors - Im going to jump on the hot seat.

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  • Darin Jordan
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Apr 2007
    • 8335

    #646
    Originally posted by zooma
    Well, I just ordered one . So I guess that I'll get the right motor, but it will look different. I was thinking of your thread on the Impulse V3, where you switched to the 1500. The one in your picture looks like the one on the Horizon site.
    No, it doesn't. Look more carefully. The right motors have crimps outside the endbell. I just shorten my wires to just 1" or so from the crimps.
    Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
    "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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    • T.S.Davis
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Oct 2009
      • 6221

      #647
      Weird.
      I just got two of these in the mail. No crimps.
      Noisy person

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      • Darin Jordan
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Apr 2007
        • 8335

        #648
        Originally posted by T.S.Davis
        Weird.
        I just got two of these in the mail. No crimps.
        From Horizon?
        Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
        "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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        • Darin Jordan
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Apr 2007
          • 8335

          #649
          I just ordered and received 4 from Horizon this week and this is what they are.

          20151212_092938.jpg

          They have also been shipped with black package labels, so it's clear Horizon is still stocking these as they run low.

          All of them are crimped.
          Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
          "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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          • JimClark
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Apr 2007
            • 5907

            #650
            guess I should order one or two 1500's
            "Our society strives to avoid any possibility of offending anyone except God.
            Billy Graham

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            • zooma
              Local club FE racer
              • May 2014
              • 652

              #651
              Originally posted by Darin Jordan
              I just ordered and received 4 from Horizon this week and this is what they are.

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              They have also been shipped with black package labels, so it's clear Horizon is still stocking these as they run low.

              All of them are crimped.
              So, by "crimped" you mean battery leads spliced to the motor leads, right? Mine hasn't come yet. Do you, then, take the crimps apart and solder bullets to the motor leads?
              Ron - The Villages, FL

              https://castawaysboatworx.org/

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              • Darin Jordan
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Apr 2007
                • 8335

                #652
                Do you, then, take the crimps apart and solder bullets to the motor leads?
                NO! Trim back the real wire a bit if you like, but leave the splices alone. Those attach to the motor windings and you'll never get a good solder joint to that.

                Here is the other packaging I mentioned above.

                20151212_105634.jpg
                Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
                "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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                • ray schrauwen
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 9471

                  #653
                  Go-Nitro hobbies changed their picture for me and everyone to the crimped version. They took one out of package and changed the picture on their EBay page. Very nice of them to do that.

                  I remember Aveox motors ran very well with their crimped connections.
                  Nortavlag Bulc

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                  • photohoward1
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 1610

                    #654
                    Man you guys spend a lot on spec Motors.

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                    • ray schrauwen
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 9471

                      #655
                      It's worse in Canadian dollars plus tax and some duty on top.
                      Nortavlag Bulc

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                      • T.S.Davis
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 6221

                        #656
                        Amazon.

                        Was there more than one generation of the 1500? Maybe these were on someones shelf a while. Who knows what I have now.

                        I removed the crimps on one of the 1800 motors. Darin's right. Not worth the effort. Just makes a mess. If anything it made the motor more fragile.
                        Noisy person

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                        • TRUCKPULL
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 2971

                          #657
                          Terry

                          Are these the motors you got ( with the gray can and blue endbells)????

                          Larry
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                          • T.S.Davis
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 6221

                            #658
                            No but I have one of those somewhere. We raced those in 2008 I think.
                            Noisy person

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                            • Darin Jordan
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 8335

                              #659
                              Originally posted by TRUCKPULL
                              Terry

                              Are these the motors you got ( with the gray can and blue endbells)????

                              Larry
                              Those are both the older ones.

                              This "generational changes" thing is one of those downsides of the P-LTD formula, but then, it's always that way with stock or spec type racing.
                              Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
                              "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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                              • Coug90
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 149

                                #660
                                I just weighed in with a proposal to NAMBA to add a couple of motors for 1/10th scale. We'll see where that goes. I have liked reading this thread and know it's a common theme in spec classes. I've been racing in Classic Thunder for over 20 years. Things were much easier for us with just one spec motor. We do that in our Division 1 (vintage boats of the 50's and 60's), but you can only do that if you are willing to cut bait when that motor or a decided comparable motor is no longer available. You'll always be at the mercy of the hobby industry, regardless of the choice you make. At some point you may have to make a decision to go with another affordable, available motor that meets your performance goals in the class (ie to slow the boats down to improve racing, knowing speeds always go up over time due to things that are not spec.). It's tough to promote the class that has a moving target for spec motor selections. I found myself caught up in that when looking at the future of the class outside of club racing. That's what led me to try and have other motors added. I gave up on the notion of having NAMBA voters agree on one motor to go with, but I want to promote the class. Our second spec motor class in CT is Division 2 (modern design w/open cockpits) which includes one of the motors currently approved in the NAMBA rulebook for 1/10 scale and P-LTD. We chose that motor and another motor we believed to be comparable when we made it a spec class two years ago. I also allowed the other motor to be run with NAMBA approved motors in our NW Triple Crown Series this year as a way to see the motor in competition against motors currently approved in NAMBA. Based on what we saw over the last two years and independent performance testing on the water, I made my proposal to add that motor and one other for NAMBA approval in 2016. I don't know where the proposal will go from here, but we'll see. It's the first proposal I have made since 1/10 scale became a NAMBA class. Maybe I should have gone with my gut, but I just didn't see a one motor proposal being accepted by the masses. Classic Thunder also has a Division 3 (modern design with canopies) which is open to any motor selection. All three CT classes run on 4s power and are open to any prop selection at this time. We all run under the same rule book. There is a class for just about every preference for performance and motor selection, but nothing's perfect. My opinion is that if it's a spec motor class, then specify a motor (or maybe a couple if you find that they are really made in the same factory but sold under different names). It's much easier in a club setting, but much more difficult to do in NAMBA. I wasn't brave enough to propose it, but maybe you guys in P-LTD can give me hope that it could happen someday. I think having affordable equipment is the most important thing. It doesn't matter how fast you're going if you're deck to deck with five other boats. It's going to be fun. The difference is in the preparation and the tweeking of non-spec items and the personal skill you put into it that makes it fun for me. That's the stuff you can learn, share and teach to others in a spec class. Hopefully that's the goal in a spec class like P-LTD and 1/10 scale. Maybe we need to set the goals of the class (outside of performance and competition) first. Maybe then the decisions get much easier to make. Sorry, I couldn't help myself. Love that people care enough to talk about it though.
                                Mitch Dillard
                                1:10 Scale Hydroplane Enthusiast
                                hydroscalecreations.us, email:[email protected]

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