NAMBA April Time Trial Monday 5th and Tuesday 6th 2021 Huntsville, Alabama

[Doug Smock]

Seriously, if you don't like it, don't run it, but stop crapping on everyone else who does.

If this was directed at me you can save it. I haven't crapped on anyone! Don't like my opinions, like the dimension rule sucks, "Limited is gone"?( At least until the limit is found) The ignore feature works pretty good, put me on it.
As far as the classes go, It was fun while it lasted. We had a good run. 4 down, moving on to bigger, better things.

Later fellas!

PS Don I've watched your progress the last few years. It's pretty incredible what you have accomplished and still haven't seen whatever "so much" is.
I see a 100mph "P-Limited" Hydro in Huff Racing's future. Hope I'm there to see it!

[Darin Jordan]

If this was directed at me you can save it. I haven't crapped on anyone! Don't like my opinions, like the dimension rule sucks, "Limited is gone"?( At least until the limit is found) The ignore feature works pretty good, put me on it.

Only Wilmer puts people on the blocked list. I'm more game to tell you what I think directly.

And, it wasn't directed at you, specifically... So...

This bitching, by the way, is coming from people who run huge P and Q-Monos and such running $500+ ESC and $300.00 motors... So in relation to that, P-LTD is definitely "limited"...

[Doug Smock]

Only Wilmer puts people on the blocked list. I'm more game to tell you what I think directly.

And, it wasn't directed at you, specifically... So...

This bitching, by the way, is coming from people who run huge P and Q-Monos and such running $500+ ESC and $300.00 motors... So in relation to that, P-LTD is definitely "limited"...

LOL and I know that about you Darin. It wasn't directed at me specifically so ok, my sincere apologies if owed. I can't argue your last point at all... Damn it!

[RaceMechaniX]

I see a 100mph "P-Limited" Hydro in Huff Racing's future. Hope I'm there to see it!

I would like to see that too!

[Darin Jordan]

I would like to see that too!

Should be doable. Brian was pushing a 1/10th scale well into the 70s with a 1500KV Dynamite motor.

Pushing a purpose built Hydro shouldn't be an issue.

[donhuff]

"Ummm... Don... there IS only so much power you're going to get out of a motor of that size. You're finding that limit, but that doesn't make the statement any less true."

Darin, I find it hard to believe that you said that. I know that I shouldn't be surprised, because this is the way that the majority of people tend to think. Even a lot of good hot rodders who are accomplished at other aspects of modifying things, to go fast. When it comes to the motor/engine, it's like they are wearing blinders and can only see one way.

That last word in the quote above is so misleading. Truth is so relative and easily manipulated , based mostly upon your current knowledge of the particular subject. I would rather have wisdom of the subject before I set limits and say never,can't, won't, impossible.

I'm doing so well with these motors mostly because I have no formal education or background dealing with them. I just tore open a couple hundred of them and learned on my on. So I have no preconceived ideas about how much power I CAN get out of a can that size. And lucky for me, I almost never really ever listen much to the nay sayers nor the experts, that way I'm not hindered buy the limits that they think exist.

So Darin, how many Watts DO you think a 37x60 motor, can deliver? What "IS" that limit? Give me a target.

If I had the means to accomplish some of my ideas, I'm pretty sure that I could get the USS Missouri up to 40 knots.........with a 37x60 !

[donhuff]

I would like to see that too!

Tyler, we need to talk. Not so much about a SAW attempt, I'm working on that already. But more about a Raptor and a 2lap. I hear you have the boat, and I gots the UNOBTANIUM, so we need to get together.

[Darin Jordan]

So Darin, how many Watts DO you think a 37x60 motor, can deliver? What "IS" that limit? Give me a target.

Not going to get into a back and forth with you, Don. I need to keep you on my good side in case I decide to get back into racing and want the "motor of the month"...

That said, there is a limit. It's just a fact. You keep working at it and YOU tell US what it is.

I'd do it myself, but honestly, I've gotten burned out on a lot of this, and don't really have anything I feel I need to prove at this point. There is ALWAYS someone who will go faster. Maybe that's you?

There is absolutely a finite limit to how many watts a physical size will be able to produce. That's why, when it's reached, people go to 40mm cans...

[RaceMechaniX]

Tyler, we need to talk. Not so much about a SAW attempt, I'm working on that already. But more about a Raptor and a 2lap. I hear you have the boat, and I gots the UNOBTANIUM, so we need to get together.

Yes, I have that boat from Brian which ran 139mph and holds both the IMPBA and NAMBA 1/3 mile 2-lap records. It's the same boat which is almost more impressive.

If you want a stretch target, I calculated a 36x60 motor could produce 5400W for about 20 seconds on 4S.

[donhuff]

20 seconds? I think that would be very hard to do!

[Doug Smock]

20 seconds? I think that would be very hard to do!

Sounds like a nay sayer to me...

[RaceMechaniX]

20 seconds? I think that would be very hard to do!

Well if you have Martin drive maybe it's only 16-17 seconds.

[donhuff]

I didn't word my response correctly.

Is 20 seconds doable, yes I think so.

Getting a 37x60 to put out 5400 watts for 20 seconds......... That's what will be hard to do!

But it won't take anywhere near that much power. Presently a stock AQ has it at 22.5 seconds. The AQ is rated at like 720 watts, so I think that 3000 watts "should" be able to reach sub 20 seconds, and that IS doable for a 20 second duration....I think.

[donhuff]

Well if you have Martin drive maybe it's only 16-17 seconds.


He does tend to take the shortest path around the course!

[T.S.Davis]

I kinda just want to be able to race oval again. I miss you guys.

We're racing Sunday Howard. You're more than welcome to come play with us.