2017 Winter Warmups

[Tom Baffer Jr]

Waiting to get on the plane !!! Here I come AZ !!!

[Tom Baffer Jr]

Any pics of the course !! It's cold in NY

[TRUCKPULL]

What NO pictures, or talk about the racing??

Us people up here in the cold that couldn't go need information.

Larry

[ray schrauwen]

Booo, Hisssss... lol...Bad weather?

Larry if you aren't busy tomorrow we could Skype. I need to talk boats with someone, lol... Want to pick your brain on setups. This time I'll write it down.

[Doug Smock]

Ok folks final rule update on p limited motor rules.. we are going to let the size rule play out for this race.. but with a max kv of 2000.. we held our last club race today..I have been talking with Terry Davis.. and he agree to that.. so there ya go..

Hope everyone had a good time.

When you guys recover I'd like to know how the motor rules panned out. I'm pretty sure this is the first race that relaxed them a bit, and we're doing something similar for the Spring Nats.

What did you learn??

Thanks all,

D.

[D. Newland]

The weather wasn't too bad. Great day Friday, Saturday had some rain (delayed maybe 20 min throughout the day) and some wind, but just enough to still be able to race through it. Sunday was better with a bit of rain while setting up pits, but the pond got flooded and a huge debris field kept us from running the final round 6 of P Mono. All in all, I think we lucked out considering what the forecast was looking like before the event.

More info will spill in later, but I must say that WW XIII was the best attended ever. Thanks to all of you that made the trip. Guys came from 7 states. Mark Ferreira from Nevada, Randy and Steve from Nor Cal, Brad Lewis from Oregon, Pags, Nina Pags and Tom Baffer from New York, Terry, Tyler, Castellani and Kevin Kosciolek from Michigan, Robert Holland from Colorado and Haines/Feddy from Florida. What a tremendous effort these guys pulled off to get here to race!

My new friend, Baffer, will have 229 haunting his dreams for a few months. Or maybe my dreams will be haunted by him yelling, "229 will haunt my dreams". What a hoot. We gave him the mic during the award ceremony. Classic Tom. With all due respect to the other racers, he really is what WW is all about. Testing, tuning, learning, tweaking, and laughing all weekend long. Nina raced her heart out, even powering through not feeling well the last day. Pags was in rare form, taped up well before each heat and helping our event keep pace. The Michigan boys (Terry and Tom) brought Tyler along to play this time, as well as new racer Kevin Kosciolek. Brad Lewis ran some excellent laps with his 1/10th scales. Randy and Steve's trip was cut short due to Steve not feeling well. I hope he's doing better. It was also nice to finally meet Feddy and I'm glad to see that Ken is back in action after the theft loss last summer. It was also great to catch up with Mark Ferriera, who's still running his Insane LSH with 2030 motor from the '12 Nats! He still had my tech zip tie on the wire. And still fast, too.

Tyler Davis is my new inspiration. That young man soaks up FE racing knowledge like a sponge. I pitted for him for many heats and raced against him in a few. He doesn't get rattled. Ever. I was on his hip for 8 1/2 laps in P-Ltd Offshore, working harder than I care to admit, and finally succumbed to his prop wash while making an aggressive pass move. He is a huge force to be reckoned with, and will be at the top of this hobby shortly. Actually, he's already there in my book.

Big thanks to Richard Romero who filled in as CD at the last minute due to Lenny Blake needing to attend to some family matters. Richard is our NAMBA Dist 19 Director and is working hard on the '17 NAMBA Nat's in Vegas coming up in October. He's a class act and is a huge addition to any event he attends.

And also congratulations to Ray for pulling off his first WW event. He was pulled in many directions, like that rubber man doll you all had as a kid, but he kept it together. Thanks, Ray!

[ray schrauwen]

Nice update, thank you!

[Doug Smock]

Good stuff David!

[Jim Osborne]

A big thanks to Newland for his return to the hobby after a little time off. He is a tremendous asset to this side of the hobby. Always a great time even if the weather wasn't typical AZ.

[MarkF]

I haven't raced in quit a while and it was a blast to get out there again. Thanks to Ray and Dave for getting this race done with bad weather to contend with.

Mark

[RandyatBBY]

Back in the shop now after the trip to Az. It seams like no matter where I go it It is pouring rain. It was clear on the way down to Az and the first day racing. Saturday I felt like I was in a monsoon. It rained most of the way home and today a Storm is coming. I did not bring my rain coat and boots to the race, I felt it was no need to use them is a little storm in the desert. Boy was I wrong. Steve is feeling better. Great to see old friends and meet new ones. Thanks to Dave and Ray for the great race.

[T.S.Davis]

Good times. Always fun time when I get to hang with boat people. They are well and truly the salt of the earth. I tried to hang out in every pit area for a few minutes. If I missed anyone I apologize.

The MMEU gang fought numerous gremlins over the weekend. It is the middle of winter for us. We're racing boats stuff untested in some cases. Some gremlins we overcame. Tom's scale hung and won against some of the fasts scales I've ever seen. Kevin and I were less successful but we did manage to place in a couple classes still. Ty placed in 4 of his 6 classes. In LSH the wire drive broke twice! He had a shot at that class too were it not for that.

Tyler is becoming one of those buggers you want to race and you well.....don't want to have to race too. He was leading P mono going into the 5th round. All he really needed to do was keep finishing and nobody could catch him by points. When he saw that Haines was in his heat he wanted to race him for real. Not just bag off and take the points. They went after it hard. Ty spun and sucked a servo wire into the flex cable. Ken flipped in the same turn. Ken felt bad like he was pushing Ty too hard. Ty wanted it. Wanted to beat him heads up. As soon as I figure out how I'll upload the video. They didn't finish but it's still a good watch. For me it was "must watch" racing every time he went out. Proud dad....sniffle. haha

On the motors......

Tyler and I ran 1950's in LSH. Mine was a loaner boat and was hit twice while capsized. It was split the entire after-plain at the seem. We learned nothing with that boat. Tyler was really fast but still not nearly as fast as Presnell who was running the PB1500 motor. So no real gain in performance that we experienced. In fairness and honesty though, it was our first race with the setups. There is likely more in the tank. Enough to catch Ray? No idea. That Whip is no joke.

In offshore Tyler and Ray were running PB1500's. Ty was 10.5 laps consistent with the brand new Cyberstorm. Still needs work. Ray was turning 11.5 with ease on the 1500. That boat is a beast. I would describe it as perfect. I ran a TP in offshore with 1750kv. My best run was 10.5 laps with 19% left in the batteries. In fairness and honesty again, I was running a crap line off the hairpin on the back straight. Couldn't force myself to turn early enough. Rusty I guess. That's where Ray was killing everyone I think. There was a good line back there and I just couldn't hit it. I doubt seriously that even if I could have run the right line I would have exceeded Rays laps. He was on it. I maybe, mighta, coulda, matched but I don't think I had speed enough to win.

My gut is that the motors aren't going to make a enough difference for the average racer to exploit. The target audience for these classes isn't the go fast super freaks. It's guys that want competition without requiring an output of massive dollars on motors and speedo. I guy like Brian maybe could take one of these motors to a crazy place but he's not the average racer. There isn't a Buass at every venue. He could tape branches to 2x4 and be faster than me.

FYI, in case I haven't mentioned it before. Our guys are testing every end of the spectrum on the motors. From the original limited list to Lehner. Even some custom built motors. If it fits it runs. At the end of the season we'll see what we've learned. We'll revisit it and make changes if it looks like it's a bust.

[rayzerdesigns]

Thx for the kind words terry.. I think the motors have potential.. as for the 1509s I can guarantee I have more time on those motors than anyone.. I haven't used anything else in 2 years.. and I race and test a lot.. and not a single failure in that time.. and yes I couldn't ask for a better mono for offshore.. I think I went half a lap faster than any of the p offshore boats..thanks again for coming out.. your kid is gonna be fast.. hopefully u talk Richard into cding for you.. thx again for all that came out.. now to prep the gas boats.. and put the fe boats in storage for nats

[ray schrauwen]

Good times. Always fun time when I get to hang with boat people. They are well and truly the salt of the earth. I tried to hang out in every pit area for a few minutes. If I missed anyone I apologize.

The MMEU gang fought numerous gremlins over the weekend. It is the middle of winter for us. We're racing boats stuff untested in some cases. Some gremlins we overcame. Tom's scale hung and won against some of the fasts scales I've ever seen. Kevin and I were less successful but we did manage to place in a couple classes still. Ty placed in 4 of his 6 classes. In LSH the wire drive broke twice! He had a shot at that class too were it not for that.

Tyler is becoming one of those buggers you want to race and you well.....don't want to have to race too. He was leading P mono going into the 5th round. All he really needed to do was keep finishing and nobody could catch him by points. When he saw that Haines was in his heat he wanted to race him for real. Not just bag off and take the points. They went after it hard. Ty spun and sucked a servo wire into the flex cable. Ken flipped in the same turn. Ken felt bad like he was pushing Ty too hard. Ty wanted it. Wanted to beat him heads up. As soon as I figure out how I'll upload the video. They didn't finish but it's still a good watch. For me it was "must watch" racing every time he went out. Proud dad....sniffle. haha

On the motors......

Tyler and I ran 1950's in LSH. Mine was a loaner boat and was hit twice while capsized. It was split the entire after-plain at the seem. We learned nothing with that boat. Tyler was really fast but still not nearly as fast as Presnell who was running the PB1500 motor. So no real gain in performance that we experienced. In fairness and honesty though, it was our first race with the setups. There is likely more in the tank. Enough to catch Ray? No idea. That Whip is no joke.

In offshore Tyler and Ray were running PB1500's. Ty was 10.5 laps consistent with the brand new Cyberstorm. Still needs work. Ray was turning 11.5 with ease on the 1500. That boat is a beast. I would describe it as perfect. I ran a TP in offshore with 1750kv. My best run was 10.5 laps with 19% left in the batteries. In fairness and honesty again, I was running a crap line off the hairpin on the back straight. Couldn't force myself to turn early enough. Rusty I guess. That's where Ray was killing everyone I think. There was a good line back there and I just couldn't hit it. I doubt seriously that even if I could have run the right line I would have exceeded Rays laps. He was on it. I maybe, mighta, coulda, matched but I don't think I had speed enough to win.

My gut is that the motors aren't going to make a enough difference for the average racer to exploit. The target audience for these classes isn't the go fast super freaks. It's guys that want competition without requiring an output of massive dollars on motors and speedo. I guy like Brian maybe could take one of these motors to a crazy place but he's not the average racer. There isn't a Buass at every venue. He could tape branches to 2x4 and be faster than me.

FYI, in case I haven't mentioned it before. Our guys are testing every end of the spectrum on the motors. From the original limited list to Lehner. Even some custom built motors. If it fits it runs. At the end of the season we'll see what we've learned. We'll revisit it and make changes if it looks like it's a bust.

Thank you. Yours and Ty's stories always make my day and the motor info is very nice to help me plan. Got another blue motor coming.

Hey Ray, what mono you running in Spec offshore? I've Been running a df33 but it's a bit of a brick. Thinking a df29?

[ray schrauwen]

Thx for the kind words terry.. I think the motors have potential.. as for the 1509s I can guarantee I have more time on those motors than anyone.. I haven't used anything else in 2 years.. and I race and test a lot.. and not a single failure in that time.. and yes I couldn't ask for a better mono for offshore.. I think I went half a lap faster than any of the p offshore boats..thanks again for coming out.. your kid is gonna be fast.. hopefully u talk Richard into cding for you.. thx again for all that came out.. now to prep the gas boats.. and put the fe boats in storage for nats

What mono is it? I'm shopping.