2012 NAMBA FE Nationals June 19th-23rd @ Legg Lake

[D. Newland]

Got some big hitters signed up now! the OP is changing almost daily with entries, so keep tabs on it. Tyler- P-Hydro made it with sign ups.

Wil, your money is due May 18th. Everyone else, the 19th.

Thank you Dougie Twaits and Rumrunner Hobbies for picking up 2 class sponsorships!

[MarkF]

Hi Dave,
sign me up for:

P - mono
P - offshore
Q - mono
Q - offshore
P - LMT sport hydro
P - LMT mono
P - LMT mono offshore.
Mark

[Darin Jordan]

Hi Dave,
sign me up for:

P - mono
P - offshore
Q - mono
Q - offshore
P - LMT hydro
P - LMT mono
P - LMT mono offshore.
Mark

Mark... don't forget that they added a P-Ltd Cat heat racing class as well...

[properchopper]

Hi Dave,
sign me up for:

P - mono
P - offshore
Q - mono
Q - offshore
P - LMT hydro
P - LMT mono
P - LMT mono offshore.
Mark

Mark, that would be P-Ltd Sport Hydro, right ?

[RaceMechaniX]

Enter him in both that we can make P hydro too!

[MarkF]

Right and fixed.
Mark

[MarkF]

I need a different boat for P sport hydro. I already have a P sport sitting at the bottom of the lake. I will try to add more classes as boats present themselves to me from friends of mine.

Mark

[namba688]

David,
Please enter Leonard Feeback in Classic 1/10 scale on #2 and LSH on #2.
He will pay at Legg next week including Sponsership.

Ted

[D. Newland]

Got it.

Everyone-if you haven't done so already, go over the 1st 2 posts and make sure you are entered in the right classes and that I have your names spelled correctly.

[D. Newland]

Signups are looking fantastic! Mr Offshore Award is going to be interesting...both Haines and Pags have signed up for all 5 offshore classes. I may have to ask the Power Company to rig them their own power line. I put the over/under for the winner at 185 laps.

There's only a few classes that don't have the magic 4. If you want those classes to make, you better start shaking some trees!

[Darin Jordan]

David,

I have my entry papers filled out and will have them in the mail tomorrow...

[Darin Jordan]

David,

Dropped my entries and check in the mail this morning. There are some adjustments in the classes I'm signing up for. Won't confuse the issue by posting here and will let you update when you receive the entry.

If one of the classes I'm signed up for doesn't make it, I may switch the entry to another class, but we'll see what happens.

Thanks for managing all of this. I know it's a LOT of work! I'll do whatever I can do when I get there to help out with the setup and running of the event...

[Darin Jordan]

David,

I need to ask for some clarification and figured I'd do it here so others could benefit from the answer. My question is in regards to keeping P-Ltd motors legal, and/or MAKING them legal again.

1) Is it legal to remove the larger black heat-shrink from around the existing wires? The UL-1 motors, for example, the black piece doesn't even stay in the can (keeps sliding out). Can it be removed?

2) If I have a motor that has had the original factory wire covering/heat-shrink damaged, can I replace it, or is the motor junk for this event??

3) Can I put new heat shrink over the top of the factory wire covering/heat-shrink?


In regards to making a motor "legal":

4) I have a couple of older BJ26 motors that had the short motor leads cut back short, and I needed to extend them back out again. The original wires come out of the can the required 5mm (at least that), and I extended them from there and had to re-shrink. Are these legal?

5) I suppose this goes with #1... When making a motor "legal" again, does this require putting a piece of shrink over all three wires together?? (Black piece at the endbell??).



Concerning KV Checking:

6) When KV Checking, Are the "known samples" for each motor type, or are we just looking to make sure nothing is over the UL-1 Motors KV??

Thanks.

Not trying to cause a stir, but I need to understand this stuff prior to making the trip so I can make sure and NOT cause a stir when I get there...

[D. Newland]

David,

I need to ask for some clarification and figured I'd do it here so others could benefit from the answer. My question is in regards to keeping P-Ltd motors legal, and/or MAKING them legal again.

1) Is it legal to remove the larger black heat-shrink from around the existing wires? The UL-1 motors, for example, the black piece doesn't even stay in the can (keeps sliding out). Can it be removed?

It can be removed, as long as it's replaced.

2) If I have a motor that has had the original factory wire covering/heat-shrink damaged, can I replace it, or is the motor junk for this event??

Original shrink can be cut off and replaced, but keep in mind that you need to replace it with shrink that is similar to what is on there (i.e. thickness and heat rating...don't worry about color).

3) Can I put new heat shrink over the top of the factory wire covering/heat-shrink?

Only from the end of the wire to 5 mm outside from the endbell. From 5 mm outside the endbell to inside the endbell, it needs to remain stock, or put back in stock form. Consider this area the Holy Land of P-Ltd Motors.


In regards to making a motor "legal":

4) I have a couple of older BJ26 motors that had the short motor leads cut back short, and I needed to extend them back out again. The original wires come out of the can the required 5mm (at least that), and I extended them from there and had to re-shrink. Are these legal?

I recommend not running these motors. My interpretation of "to be run as shipped from the manufacturer" includes keeping the OE wire length intact...and not adding wire.

5) I suppose this goes with #1... When making a motor "legal" again, does this require putting a piece of shrink over all three wires together?? (Black piece at the endbell??).

If it had it that way when it was shipped to you, then yes.

Concerning KV Checking:

6) When KV Checking, Are the "known samples" for each motor type, or are we just looking to make sure nothing is over the UL-1 Motors KV??

With the exception of the 1/10th scale classes, the sample will consist of just UL-1 motors to set a Kv ceiling.

Thanks.

Not trying to cause a stir, but I need to understand this stuff prior to making the trip so I can make sure and NOT cause a stir when I get there...

To all: I will have SOME shrink product on site to help get P-Ltd motors "back to stock". If you need help with this, please see me during open water.

This topic is also not open for discussion. We have a rule in place (good, bad or indifferent) that states that these motors are to be run "as shipped from the manufacturer" with the exception of 3 allowable modifications. Any connectors, adding water cooling and grinding a flat spot. My attempt to answer Darin's questions comes from my authority, as Contest Director, to clear up any rule interpretations for the 2012 Nationals, at the same time try to allow some flexibility to get motors legally running again with some clarification on how to "unmodify" modifications.

If you have any questions, please let me know. But, again, I'm not up for an "opinion" discussion. I have more important things to do with my time right now, one of which is putting on the best FE Nat's NAMBA has ever seen.

[Darin Jordan]

If you have any questions, please let me know. But, again, I'm not up for an "opinion" discussion. I have more important things to do with my time right now, one of which is putting on the best FE Nat's NAMBA has ever seen.

Perfect answers, David. Thank you for taking that time to clarify.