2018 IMPBA FE Nationals - Michigan Cup

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  • Doby
    KANADA RULES!
    • Apr 2007
    • 7280

    #31
    Terry:

    You and your club have nothing to justify to anyone.
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    • jaike5
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2011
      • 561

      #32
      Hi Terry, I have to keep Iain focused as well, for Iain its all football. He got the news flash 80 is the new 60 or he won't be able to go to UofT for full ride football .
      The next level. He just turned 17 today ,so young to go to university, I kinda hope he does a victory lap! not likely, as they gave him a tour of the facility and all the perks ..... he's gone ! and he's pull'n off the marks now to get there. Stay focused Tyler its all in your hands. I'm bringing the brains next year to keep me in line, so I'm sure she will want to hear about a great school year from you.
      Cheers, Jay. race on!

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      • CraigP
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • May 2017
        • 1464

        #33
        Yes, many classes... It makes club racing even harder to build up. I don’t envy the sanctioning decision makers!

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        • T.S.Davis
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Oct 2009
          • 6221

          #34
          Originally posted by CraigP
          It makes club racing even harder to build up. I don’t envy the sanctioning decision makers!
          For clubs the trick is first find a handful of guys that even want to race. Could be just 3 guys to get started. We had 4 I think. Although Al Waters used to say "The first race happened when the second guy showed up. The first rule...............written by the guy that lost."

          Then agree on a least one class that you can all get behind. Run that every time you get together. Let the group decide what if anything is next. Kinda how we do it. The club has pushed it's way in what ever direction they wanted by building boats and talking to each other. We haven't told them what they have to do. Totally member driven. We do let them know if there is someone else talking about a boat they too are interested in. Like "Hey Terry, I'm thinking about building a P cat." I might already be aware of 4 more in the club that this guy doesn't know exist. Sounds like some heats are possible! Or the other way. We know there are zero crackerbox (for instance) in the entire district. They can still build one obviously but at least they'll do it with their eyes open. Maybe instead they'll build something there are 10 of in the club. If suddenly the gang has a flights worth of a particular class we run the heats for them. If the group produces entries for the season we offer a vote to add it into our season points series. We also have an avenue for classes to expire. If a class doesn't have enough boats for each of our club races, the following year it goes on probation. There's a magic number of entries. Can't remember the number. We'll still run it if the numbers are there one particular month but not for season points. Works pretty well over all.

          Off on a tangent there but if it helps someone get going then........I don't care. haha

          Sanctioned event classes aren't that bad if you have an idea who is coming. Almost every venue wiggles a bit based on their expected guests.
          Noisy person

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          • Doug Smock
            Moderator
            • Apr 2007
            • 5272

            #35
            Originally posted by Buddy Benedict
            Is there a reason for not having any tunnel classes on the list.
            Hi Buddy,

            Not intending on derailing this thread just a FYI.

            If you are into tunnels this is the race for you. Formally the World Outboard Tunnel Championship.
            Southern Tunnel Championship, May 18th – 20th. (SOWEGA) Sycamore Ga. This race attracts tunnels from all over.
            P Limited, P and Q Tunnels along with the Nitro boats.



            Doug
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            • T.S.Davis
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Oct 2009
              • 6221

              #36
              Originally posted by T.S.Davis
              Then agree on a least one class that you can all get behind.
              Should have said, even if that happens to be tunnels. I ain't a hater.
              Noisy person

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              • Buddy Benedict
                Junior Member
                • Nov 2017
                • 8

                #37
                Originally posted by Doug Smock
                Hi Buddy,

                Not intending on derailing this thread just a FYI.

                If you are into tunnels this is the race for you. Formally the World Outboard Tunnel Championship.
                Southern Tunnel Championship, May 18th – 20th. (SOWEGA) Sycamore Ga. This race attracts tunnels from all over.
                P Limited, P and Q Tunnels along with the Nitro boats.



                Doug
                Thanks for the info Doug, but that happens to be the same weekend of our first district race and i'll be working it all weekend.

                Buddy

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                • trigger
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2013
                  • 853

                  #38
                  Buddy, what club are you with?

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                  • Buddy Benedict
                    Junior Member
                    • Nov 2017
                    • 8

                    #39
                    Originally posted by T.S.Davis
                    Should have said, even if that happens to be tunnels. I ain't a hater.
                    Well maybe the next Nats will have tunnels.

                    I do have a question on the offered classes. You have "10th Scale" listed and I can't find anything in the IMPBA rule book about it. Is it a sport hydro with a scale paint job?

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                    • Buddy Benedict
                      Junior Member
                      • Nov 2017
                      • 8

                      #40
                      Originally posted by trigger
                      Buddy, what club are you with?
                      River City Racing Club Evansville Indiana

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                      • dethow
                        Wired Racing
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 1500

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Buddy Benedict
                        Wow!! An IMPBA National event for your club. How sad.
                        Shame this conversation got negative so fast with an assumption that Terry was saying he knows what OUR club has to race and that’s the basis of the classes offered. He generally knows the individuals across the country and Canada who will attend this event and what they have to run.

                        I think that if handled differently you'd find that MMEU is a very accommodating bunch. If say... you were to propose that you could get together enough tunnels to travel to Michigan... Would we include tunnel in the event? I would bet that you'd been met with some hospitality and given an opportunity to be included in the event.

                        But as it sits... our directors, whom travel all around the country, know almost everyone who will attend this event. And know which classes can be filled. Unfortunately, tunnel isn’t one of them. That is unless someone (maybe you) steps up and says “I might be able to bring some individuals you don’t know and fill a tunnel class.”

                        But that also depends on being able to fit an additional class within the 3 days of racing. The venue is an Elks Lodge with residential housing sharing the pond/lake. We have 3 days of racing available. Extending out additional days of racing isn’t an option. And we have to be done on the water by a reasonable time (I think 6 to 7pm) due to the residential properties.
                        Last edited by dethow; 12-05-2017, 11:44 PM.
                        Have fun with that....

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                        • dethow
                          Wired Racing
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 1500

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Buddy Benedict
                          Well maybe the next Nats will have tunnels.
                          As Terry said "there hasn't been an IMPBA electric nationals in well over a decade."

                          MAYBE the next one will include tunnels. But for right now... its a great step forward that an IMPBA electric nationals is EVEN occurring.

                          Much gratitude to the great bunch at MMEU for making this happen.
                          Have fun with that....

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                          • tjcast
                            Liquid Mayhem Racing Team
                            • Jul 2011
                            • 535

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Buddy Benedict
                            Well maybe the next Nats will have tunnels.

                            I do have a question on the offered classes. You have "10th Scale" listed and I can't find anything in the IMPBA rule book about it. Is it a sport hydro with a scale paint job?
                            The next Nats will offer a tunnel class. When the sign ups go up on RCracingevents, I will include Spec Tunnel as one of the classes. ALL classes will be have a 6 boat minimum and any class that doesn't have the required minimum signed up and paid for, by June 7th, will be removed from the list.

                            As stated on the flier the 10th Scale and Offshore rules we will be using are located here:

                            https://forums.offshoreelectrics.com...pplement-rules
                            Caution: Does not play well with others!

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                            • T.S.Davis
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 6221

                              #44
                              The voice of reason. haha

                              Just spec tunnels? Spec, P, Q? Totally against having all three. I just don't want us to start catering to every guy that wants their pet class added for which history has shown little participation. We already have one other like that with 1/8 scale. This could (potentially) be a second. I know of 3 tunnel that will for sure be on site if we count mine. I didn't plan to race mine but it is available.

                              Easy enough for me to add a spec tunnel to the flier. Lynne is super accommodating too so getting it on the IMPBA site is no biggy either. Let me know if you think we should take those extra steps.
                              Noisy person

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                              • Doug Smock
                                Moderator
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 5272

                                #45
                                It's a good thing Tom is around to take the edge off of you Terry. Shame you don't spend more time together.
                                MODEL BOAT RACER
                                IMPBA President
                                District 13 Director 2011- present
                                IMPBA National Records Director 2009-2019
                                IMPBA 19887L CD
                                NAMBA 1169

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