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  • BILL OXIDEAN
    Banned
    • Sep 2008
    • 1494

    #61
    Originally posted by Darin Jordan
    I think some of you need to relax, and maybe back off of Bill... These are RTR boats... none of them are perfect, and many of you have NO IDEA just how much give and take goes into actually getting one of these to market. You don't want to know, trust me!

    Take these boats for what they are, evaluate what you want, and go on from there. Bashing the messenger isn't going to get us anywhere. We need MORE boaters and MORE people racing together, not polarization.
    Well put Darin. Look forward to beers and champagne with you guys at the nationals awards banquet.

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    • Brushless55
      Creator
      • Oct 2008
      • 9488

      #62
      Originally posted by iamandrew
      Venon make crappy products, they are usually out of stock of critical replacement parts, and they are built to a price, in which will usually be Too cheap
      thanks for your opinion..
      I hope this one is a little different in the build and quality side of things (specially the gell coat) and I hope the motor lives up to the task of this big hull..
      I would like to drive one and see just how well or not it performs outside a video..

      ps. my Gas KOS had tons of cracks all over in the gell coat..
      .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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      • BILL OXIDEAN
        Banned
        • Sep 2008
        • 1494

        #63
        Originally posted by Brushless55
        thanks for your opinion..
        I hope this one is a little different in the build and quality side of things (specially the gell coat) and I hope the motor lives up to the task of this big hull..
        I would like to drive one and see just how well or not it performs outside a video..

        ps. my Gas KOS had tons of cracks all over in the gell coat..
        You guys won Brushless 55 you've turned the world away from Venom
        By the way, you're only in Colorado. Are you attending the FE nats? You appear to have deep passion for our sport.

        I can show you there how our products work
        Last edited by BILL OXIDEAN; 05-11-2012, 09:14 AM.

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        • Rumdog
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Mar 2009
          • 6453

          #64
          Thanks for adding more useful info, Bill.
          B-55 Is posting his experience with the same hull as the boat this thread is about. I've seen a few of these with paint issues after running also. I'd stiffen the hell out of the hull with CF if you plan going any faster than stock.

          Venom has been doing a fine job of turning people away from their boats all by theirselves. I mean.... Atomik

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          • Brushless55
            Creator
            • Oct 2008
            • 9488

            #65
            Originally posted by BILL OXIDEAN
            You guys won Brushless 55 you've turned the world away from Venom
            By the way, you're only in Colorado. Are you attending the FE nats? You appear to have deep passion for our sport.

            I can show you there how our products work
            I may go, but I'de rather be a high altitude tester for this 58"
            ( I know people with cash, and lots of it )

            Originally posted by Rumdog
            Thanks for adding more useful info, Bill.
            B-55 Is posting his experience with the same hull as the boat this thread is about. I've seen a few of these with paint issues after running also. I'd stiffen the hell out of the hull with CF if you plan going any faster than stock.

            Venom has been doing a fine job of turning people away from their boats all by theirselves. I mean.... Atomik
            yes, the Gas KOS had massive gell coat cracks in it.. I sold it to a guy who has a boat repair shop up in Wyoming, who said he was going to redo the gell coat and paint it the way he wanted it to look.. (made some money in the deal)
            sweet looking hull from 10ft+ away, but 5ft and closer.. ouch
            I hope this one has better gell coat on it, and matched paint from hull to hatch

            love to have a free one to put a 540kv in it and try 16s to see what could happen!
            I could sell a ton, if it turned out good..
            I brought a UL-1 to Lake Tracy a few years ago to a test and tune at NAMBA20, and since then, they have hosted the Nats and now have several FE classes..
            .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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            • forescott
              Hopelessly Addicted to RC
              • Nov 2009
              • 2686

              #66
              Maybe the brushless version of this cat will not stress crack so much due to the absence of a tooth rattling gas motor.

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              • forescott
                Hopelessly Addicted to RC
                • Nov 2009
                • 2686

                #67
                New vidio from atomik rc.....

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                • BILL OXIDEAN
                  Banned
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 1494

                  #68
                  Originally posted by forescott
                  New vidio from atomik rc.....


                  Dosen't look freakin' bad! LoL!
                  I should have one at the nats..

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                  • Darin Jordan
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 8335

                    #69
                    Doesn't look too bad to me. Would be interesting to see one in person.
                    Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
                    "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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                    • Darin Jordan
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 8335

                      #70
                      Originally posted by BILL OXIDEAN
                      Dosen't look freakin' bad! LoL!
                      I should have one at the nats..
                      Bill... remember too... that's a legal "Hydro" as well as Offshore...
                      Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
                      "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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                      • BILL OXIDEAN
                        Banned
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 1494

                        #71
                        Originally posted by Darin Jordan
                        Bill... remember too... that's a legal "Hydro" as well as Offshore...
                        Now here's a guy not "taunting" but "tempting" me
                        You know me, if I have the boat, I'll go 'head and run it. Hey, thanx for the class recommendation lol!
                        From the Vid it looks like with some Oxidean magic it'd dang near hang in there as a hydro..

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                        • ozzie-crawl
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 2865

                          #72
                          That looked half reasonable. least they did not do one of those videos were the person is trying to do figure 8s and trying to do sharp left hand turns in a small pond and you never see the hull up on plane

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                          • Paul Susbauer
                            Junior Member
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 18

                            #73
                            Hey Guys,
                            Paul from Venom/Atomik here. Since we're three pages into the pissing contest, I won't acknowledge any of it, but will give you the facts.

                            This boat has been in the works for well over three years testing a bunch of different configurations.

                            This is meant to be a first big RC electric boat for the average weekend warrior hobbyist. The goal is to make it run on a cheapo 25C 6S 5000mah Lipo, at a speed comparable to our stock Gas boat. We know that higher voltage is always a good thing, but the average consumer has a programmable charger that goes up to 6S only. (Example, the Venom Pro-Charger, the various HK chargers, etc)

                            The goal was to get the most out of these components while not stressing them. At most its pulling about 100amps continuous, through the 120 amp esc. The motor itself typically comes off the water at 130 F or less after heat soak. Motor not stressed, ESC not stressed, and even the cheap 25C packs aren't stressed.



                            We have put a high quality CNC Aluminum prop on there, and have listened to the high end boating community and configured the whole battery tray and motor mount system to be able to upgrade to much greater power, should you choose to do so.

                            There was a comment someone said that there is very little porpoising or chine walking in the smooth water. We run this in heavier surf conditions too. Example, the other day we were out running with the wind blowing about 25mph, which was putting white caps on the local lake. Still handled it like a charm.

                            This is an RTR product. Keep that in perspective.

                            Paul Susbauer
                            Product Manager
                            Atomik-RC

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                            • Brushless55
                              Creator
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 9488

                              #74
                              Originally posted by Paul Susbauer
                              Hey Guys,
                              Paul from Venom/Atomik here. Since we're three pages into the pissing contest, I won't acknowledge any of it, but will give you the facts.

                              This boat has been in the works for well over three years testing a bunch of different configurations.

                              This is meant to be a first big RC electric boat for the average weekend warrior hobbyist. The goal is to make it run on a cheapo 25C 6S 5000mah Lipo, at a speed comparable to our stock Gas boat. We know that higher voltage is always a good thing, but the average consumer has a programmable charger that goes up to 6S only. (Example, the Venom Pro-Charger, the various HK chargers, etc)

                              The goal was to get the most out of these components while not stressing them. At most its pulling about 100amps continuous, through the 120 amp esc. The motor itself typically comes off the water at 130 F or less after heat soak. Motor not stressed, ESC not stressed, and even the cheap 25C packs aren't stressed.


                              We have put a high quality CNC Aluminum prop on there, and have listened to the high end boating community and configured the whole battery tray and motor mount system to be able to upgrade to much greater power, should you choose to do so.

                              There was a comment someone said that there is very little porpoising or chine walking in the smooth water. We run this in heavier surf conditions too. Example, the other day we were out running with the wind blowing about 25mph, which was putting white caps on the local lake. Still handled it like a charm.

                              This is an RTR product. Keep that in perspective.

                              Paul Susbauer
                              Product Manager
                              Atomik-RC
                              Paul, great to know!
                              I have 6 6s packs for my TRex-600 that could be used for this rtr
                              I assume you are talking of running two 6s 5000mah packs in parallel for 10,000mah?
                              thanks
                              .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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                              • Paul Susbauer
                                Junior Member
                                • Apr 2011
                                • 18

                                #75
                                BL55,
                                Nope, just a single 25C 6S 5000 is what we run, and we're also running 50C 6S packs. There are dual battery trays built into each sponson that you could easily parallel a couple packs up for long run time too. Those trays were put in there for that exact reason, or for upgrading to higher power setups.

                                To note, in heavy wind conditions, with how light it is with just a single 6S pack, she will pick up easily, so be careful heading into the wind. Dual 6S packs, moved forward slightly greatly helped that.

                                I don't know if anyone mentioned it, but the boat comes standard with EC5 connectors which is what we have been using in all our testing over the last couple years with great success.

                                Paul Susbauer
                                Atomik-RC

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