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  • JPriami
    N4FOX
    • Aug 2010
    • 1675

    #46
    Ive been thinking a lot about the chine walking issue. I tried to adjust the tabs but all that did is the boat seems to run with more of the hull in the water at high speed and its still chine walking.
    It looks like the boat wants to twist (right side drops down) from the torque from the motor & pushing the prop into the water. I was wondering about weight placement. What if I stagger the batteries so that one of them on the left is up further so that it might be harder for the boat to raise that side. Or maybe I should put the GPS on the left side to add a little extra to make it harder to lift that side.Or should i drop the right trim tab down more to help push that back up? not sure about that solution though.
    Its an odd problem because its inconsistent. I have been able to make some high speed passes without chine it just gets on plane and goes good. Seems that if i ease into wot it does better too. So i feel that something is exciting the chine and once it starts it dosent quit till you drop the rpms down.
    Last edited by JPriami; 02-08-2011, 02:26 AM.
    Land, Sea & Air, A true RC Addict.

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    • Brushless55
      Creator
      • Oct 2008
      • 9488

      #47
      I place my gps on the left side and I think that helps my SV out
      .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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      • martin
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Aug 2010
        • 2887

        #48
        With the Spartan the weight inside the hull is distributed pretty much even i think, This dosnt help with torque roll. I know with the self righting boats theirs a lot more weight on the left side looking from the rear along with the flood chamber as well so theirs quite a lot off biased to the left. This seems to help reducing torque roll with this type of boat. Thanks Martin.

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        • Rumdog
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Mar 2009
          • 6453

          #49
          This boat suffers from chine walk, not torque roll. Most all fast monos do since the ride right on the very rear of the hull (ride pad) if set up correctly. Weighting the port side will not change this. Prop walk comes into effect when propping to big for a give hull. Then it will tend to pull the starboard side down toward the water. The teeny prop on the Spartan isn't effecting it's handling.
          The larger props JP is using may be causing prop walk however. Try adjusting just the starboard side tab a little bit negative and run the port side neutral. Or, try a prop with less pitch(lift).

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          • jamespl
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2009
            • 742

            #50
            With regards to the stock heat issue i have found that traxxas say there products can do something and they arent fibbing they just dont seem to be able to do it for long, take my rustler vxl for example, it says it can do 70mph with a 3s lipo and the right gearing- yes it can but for real world use around the street the heat it generates is unreal! so for day to day tyre bashing its no good and i would imagine its the same sort of thing with the spartan.
            http://inlinethumb55.webshots.com/32...600x600Q85.jpg
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            • JPriami
              N4FOX
              • Aug 2010
              • 1675

              #51
              The fine print on my box say 50+MPH in the vehicle it's being hauled in when going to the lake.
              Land, Sea & Air, A true RC Addict.

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              • Brushless55
                Creator
                • Oct 2008
                • 9488

                #52
                Originally posted by jamespl
                With regards to the stock heat issue i have found that traxxas say there products can do something and they arent fibbing they just dont seem to be able to do it for long, take my rustler vxl for example, it says it can do 70mph with a 3s lipo and the right gearing- yes it can but for real world use around the street the heat it generates is unreal! so for day to day tyre bashing its no good and i would imagine its the same sort of thing with the spartan.
                This boat was said to do 50mph+ out of the box on 6s
                and it can't!
                .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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                • Brushless55
                  Creator
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 9488

                  #53
                  Originally posted by JPriami
                  The fine print on my box say 50+MPH in the vehicle it's being hauled in when going to the lake.
                  .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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                  • jamespl
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 742

                    #54
                    Originally posted by JPriami
                    The fine print on my box say 50+MPH in the vehicle it's being hauled in when going to the lake.
                    Oh right. I thought it could do 50 on 6s but was getting stupidly hot!
                    http://inlinethumb55.webshots.com/32...600x600Q85.jpg
                    http://inlinethumb04.webshots.com/45...600x600Q85.jpg

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                    • JPriami
                      N4FOX
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 1675

                      #55
                      Best speed i got on mine stock was 43. I think a little more might be squeezed out of it stock on a good day.
                      I hope the snow goes away soon. It's cold and sucks.
                      Land, Sea & Air, A true RC Addict.

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                      • maxmekker
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 412

                        #56
                        Then come on over to Norway. :-)
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                        • ray schrauwen
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 9471

                          #57
                          Originally posted by Rumdog
                          This boat suffers from chine walk, not torque roll. ).
                          Plastic hull....
                          Nortavlag Bulc

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                          • Darin Jordan
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 8335

                            #58
                            Originally posted by Brushless55
                            This boat was said to do 50mph+ out of the box on 6s
                            and it can't!
                            Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
                            "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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                            • Brushless55
                              Creator
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 9488

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Darin Jordan
                              Big reason I'm sold on PB and AQ
                              they don't hype and lead the new guys on, and they build rock solid stuff!
                              oh and better yet PB and AQ actually listens to their customers and helps them out when things go wrong

                              My Spartan is going right back to traxxas
                              they keep deleting comments and threads on their site that talks about issues everyone is having with the spartan
                              .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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                              • jamespl
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2009
                                • 742

                                #60
                                I'm not into bashing products but from what I'm reading most people that have this boat are very underwhelmed by it! When venom kept putting the P1 production back I thought about getting the Titan plus the impression I got with venom
                                Is that they weren't that good. I'm glad to say I went with the P1 and love it.
                                http://inlinethumb55.webshots.com/32...600x600Q85.jpg
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