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  • CHIEFY_44
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 254

    #316
    get there bullit shaft assembly too its undistructable req very little in maintance just a little oil on the shaft after ur finished for the day and if u do the brass liner instead of the teflon you can make a oiler for the shaft which helps in maintance too. I have this done to mine and it works a treat.
    Socal Fe member, miss gieco castle 1515 1y t-180, blackjack29 stock,insane FE30 p sport castle 1515 1y t-180, insane FE30 p spec ul-1 motor t-120, insane 34"mono neu 1521 1.5d t-180

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    • Just ADD Water
      Junior Member
      • Jul 2011
      • 14

      #317
      Boat pics and video 002.jpg...Got the new flex cable in ... Fixed and hit the lake today ! along with my spartan ... Great day ! Stiletto was like a knife on glass today!....thanx to the expert info given here at this website!.. thanx Darin.. thanx everyone!

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      • Just ADD Water
        Junior Member
        • Jul 2011
        • 14

        #318
        Boat pics and video 002.jpg...Got the new flex cable in ... Fixed and hit the lake today ! along with my spartan ... Great day ! Stiletto was like a knife on glass today!....thanx to the expert info given here at this website!.. thanx Darin.. thanx everyone!

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        • sailr
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Nov 2007
          • 6927

          #319
          Could you please post a pic of the oiler?

          Originally posted by CHIEFY_44
          get there bullit shaft assembly too its undistructable req very little in maintance just a little oil on the shaft after ur finished for the day and if u do the brass liner instead of the teflon you can make a oiler for the shaft which helps in maintance too. I have this done to mine and it works a treat.
          Mini Cat Racing USA
          www.minicatracingusa.com

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          • Darin Jordan
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Apr 2007
            • 8335

            #320
            Originally posted by sailr
            Could you please post a pic of the oiler?
            There are pics of the way I did this oilier further up in this race-prep thread. I think it's like post #68 or there-abouts. I don't have an actual reservoir on mine, but just inject it with oil between rounds. I used a large piece of silicone tubing, between the case and the stuffing tube which actually holds a decent amount of oil as well...

            I'm very encouraged by those of you who are working things out with this boat. In fact, it's thanks to some of you here that mine is now running closer to how I want it to go! Didn't quite get this thing "perfect" out of the box, but it seems that only minor tweaks, and some attention to detail, are all it really needs to be a good handling package.
            Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
            "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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            • giddyuperic
              Member
              • Jul 2011
              • 59

              #321
              This is what I got is it right?

              I got these from Hyperformance and he said these would drop right in but when it comes time I am going to do the mods darin told us about with the brass housing and oiler.7-18-11 new flex shafts 001.JPG7-18-11 new flex shafts 002.JPG

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              • CHIEFY_44
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 254

                #322
                salir the oiler is exactly what darin has pics of as he said post #68, basically you do the brass stuffing tube mod and solder a smaller dia piece of tubbing to the inside of the curve of the stuffing tube, then grind away the outboard casing where it sticks through, then add your piece of silicon tubbing to that and then you have to find a fitting to put into the outboard casing so you can oil your shaft without taking it apart everytime, i personally used a pressure fitting from a nitro car and use a syringe with a ca glue bottle tip trimmed to fit into the hole of the fitting and oil the shaft this way, i will post pics tomorrow if i get time. Darin thank you for all the good work with the race prep I am not trying to say it was my idea just explaining how i did the mod you told everyone about in the first place, keep up the good work mate. Everytime i have this boat out on the water i get nothing but compliments from passer by's saying how cool it looks (then normally i end up with it upside down in the water).
                Socal Fe member, miss gieco castle 1515 1y t-180, blackjack29 stock,insane FE30 p sport castle 1515 1y t-180, insane FE30 p spec ul-1 motor t-120, insane 34"mono neu 1521 1.5d t-180

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                • CHIEFY_44
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 254

                  #323
                  There the ones eric i have been using the same one for ages now never had a problem and yes they do drop straight in no problem, but lke i said in an earlier post get there buillit shaft too you will have very little problems if you do more so when you do the brass stuffing tube mod as well.
                  Socal Fe member, miss gieco castle 1515 1y t-180, blackjack29 stock,insane FE30 p sport castle 1515 1y t-180, insane FE30 p spec ul-1 motor t-120, insane 34"mono neu 1521 1.5d t-180

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                  • giddyuperic
                    Member
                    • Jul 2011
                    • 59

                    #324
                    Can you please show me where buillit shaft is on his web site? Thanks And with all the I can set up the brass and the oiler port and be good to go? I really like this boat and you are right every body who see's it say that is way cool looking boat. Even got me a in with a girl to get her number:)

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                    • CHIEFY_44
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 254

                      #325
                      go to his web page, then outboard accesories,then its the 3.5 shaft assembly it shows at $24.25, fit this and the shaft with the brass stuffing tube with the oiler attachment and yes your good to go. Just need to fine tune the boat and your on your way to enjoying this boat, i used synthetic transmission oil to oil the shaft between runs and that was told to me by the boss of hyperformance and right now is working a treat.
                      Socal Fe member, miss gieco castle 1515 1y t-180, blackjack29 stock,insane FE30 p sport castle 1515 1y t-180, insane FE30 p spec ul-1 motor t-120, insane 34"mono neu 1521 1.5d t-180

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                      • Cubfan
                        Junior Member
                        • Jul 2011
                        • 3

                        #326
                        Originally posted by Darin Jordan
                        I posted a response to Cubfan's question on the RC Groups forum, but here it is again for the rest of you:


                        Can you describe WHERE the cables are breaking?

                        If I may venture a guess, I'd say they are breaking either very near the stub shaft (within 1/4" or so of the stub shaft, just up from the flats??) or very near the coupler??

                        On the http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/forum.php forum, I have a "race prep" thread for this boat where I describe some prep work I did on my lower units to increase their reliability and reduce maintenance, as well as reduce drag.

                        Here is a link to that thread: http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/...etto-Race-Prep

                        One think I noticed is that the holes in the cases of the lower unit that are at either end of the channel that holds the teflon stuffing tube are a little bit on the small side. I disassembled my lower unit to get all the internals out and to clean up the halves (there can be bead-blasting debris in the cases from the manufacturing process). Putting just the two halves together, I opened up the holes where the flex exits into the prop-shaft and at the top near the coupler to provide a little more "wiggle-room" for the flex cable in these areas. I also used this opportunity to assemble the motor, stuffing tube, prop-shaft, coupler, and flex shaft onto one-half of the lower unit so I could assure that the coupler is installed to allow the proper flex-shaft end-play and wasn't binding. There should be a slight amount of end clearance of the flex in the coupler and the prop-shaft.

                        What I suspect is happening with your flex cables is that they are either binding from being jammed down with no end-clearance in your coupler/prop-shaft, or that they are rubbing on the holes I described above.

                        All that being said, I have been using Lawless or K&B stubs in mine, simply because that's what I have, and also because they tend to have JUST ENOUGH flat at the ends (the flats aren't overly long), so the cable can bend a little bit more toward the ends.

                        Hope this helps.
                        Darin I did your mods to the lower unit and installed the brass tube. Ran it today with a K&B cable- Wow what a difference. I must have had a bad factory set up - The motor has much more RPM/Speed than before. It must of really had a bind with the stock set up. I would highly recommend this blueprinting operation to anyone.
                        Thanks again for the info
                        Cubfan

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                        • giddyuperic
                          Member
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 59

                          #327
                          I have bought my upgade flex shafts and the tubing. Can someone tell me the best way to bend it please? I have heard people say fill it with sand or bend it around something. What did you guys use please? For now I am still running stock set up still. But I gave it a little wiggle roon as darin said and she is singing right alone. Now I fliped her the other day and had it all taped up but there is no real way to save the motor right? I had to take her out and dry her for a day of so then no problem. I really wise someone would make a better battery box cove the tuperwear stuff just don't cut it. I had it all taped up and water still got in there. Is there a way to tape it better and it there something you can water proof the motor with a spray or something???? And when I don't shaft with tubing and oiler what prop are you going to after that mod? Thank you very much. Eric

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                          • Darin Jordan
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 8335

                            #328
                            Originally posted by giddyuperic
                            I have bought my upgade flex shafts and the tubing. Can someone tell me the best way to bend it please? I have heard people say fill it with sand or bend it around something. What did you guys use please? For now I am still running stock set up still. But I gave it a little wiggle roon as darin said and she is singing right alone. Now I fliped her the other day and had it all taped up but there is no real way to save the motor right? I had to take her out and dry her for a day of so then no problem. I really wise someone would make a better battery box cove the tuperwear stuff just don't cut it. I had it all taped up and water still got in there. Is there a way to tape it better and it there something you can water proof the motor with a spray or something???? And when I don't shaft with tubing and oiler what prop are you going to after that mod? Thank you very much. Eric
                            Eric,

                            To bend that tubing, I lay the cases open so I'll have a pattern, and then I heat the tubing with a propane torch until it's just not quite glowing... just anneal it a bit. I then used a tubing bender and very carefully bent it to shape, a little bit at a time, section by section, until it fits.

                            As for getting water in... It's likely not coming in the lid. I would venture to guess it's coming in through the rubber bellows at the wires and control cables. If you look at how I did mine, I separated the wires out individual holes and sealed them separately. Another option is to squirt some lithium or other type of grease up inside the bellows from the inside. That's what I did for the control cables. Haven't gotten any water in since.

                            Some of these hulls aren't sealed at the two cowl hold-down holes at the front, or the thumb screw holes at the back, so squirt some silicone in there and put the cowl on to push the stuff up inside a bit (maybe put a little grease on the pins, just to make sure they don't stick). This will help seal that.

                            Finally, I made my own lid cover out of a piece of 1/16" ply and sealed it. Flat surface. Much easier to tape, plus it gave me an extra 1/4" or so inside the boat to fit the ESC on top of the batteries if needed.
                            Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
                            "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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                            • giddyuperic
                              Member
                              • Jul 2011
                              • 59

                              #329
                              Thank you very much . Just a couple more things please. Can you tell me the name of the tubing bender? Thanks for all your help. Eric P.S. What about the cowl on the motor?Is it okay if the motor gets wet as long as you don't run it and let it dry really good? You have helped alot on this boat and I want to thank you. Are you going to legg lake on the 6th and 7th of aug?
                              Last edited by giddyuperic; 07-26-2011, 09:28 AM. Reason: Dah ! Dah!

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                              • Darin Jordan
                                Fast Electric Addict!
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 8335

                                #330
                                Originally posted by giddyuperic
                                Can you tell me the name of the tubing bender?
                                This isn't the one I have, but it's an example:



                                This is one of the ones that I have:



                                I think I found it at a NAPA store...
                                Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
                                "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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