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  • vinnyp
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2017
    • 283

    #76
    The wind finally died down today. I took advantage of it to test out my new Veles 29 for its maiden run. Unfortunately, it didn't go very well or even last very long. I dropped the boat in the water, took a real slow ride to where I normally turn, turned back towards me, opened the throttle to about 1/2 for its first run and it didn't move more than a couple of feet. Walked out to get and found the flex came apart at the crimp! Prop and drive dog were at the bottom of the bay. Before you ask, I greased the flex. There was no binding in the flex either. Remarkably, after walking around a bit in the knee deep water, I found the prop! Just for the record, I had the stock prop on. I wanted a base line run before trying anything new out. Didn't happen today. Called Horizon, they will send me a new flex. To my knowledge, there is no upgraded flex available yet for this boat, other than wire drives. I am not feeling good about putting one of my good props on this flex. I don't care too much if I were to loose a stock prop, but don't want to loose one of my good ABC's.. Any options?
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    • kfxguy
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Oct 2013
      • 8746

      #77
      Just letting you guys know that I could make you a stronger flex. I'll need some measurements for the first one. I silver solder all of mine and I haven't broke one yet. I definitely don't trust a crimped cable. At all. Why they would do that is beyond me, you would think that saving a few pennies now to cost you more later (warranty and upset customers) just wouldn't be worth it. Hey, yea, in a low speed shockwave 26 this sort of cable may work, but definitely not in a boat like this.
      32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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      • vinnyp
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2017
        • 283

        #78
        Originally posted by kfxguy
        Just letting you guys know that I could make you a stronger flex. I'll need some measurements for the first one. I silver solder all of mine and I haven't broke one yet. I definitely don't trust a crimped cable. At all. Why they would do that is beyond me, you would think that saving a few pennies now to cost you more later (warranty and upset customers) just wouldn't be worth it. Hey, yea, in a low speed shockwave 26 this sort of cable may work, but definitely not in a boat like this.
        Thanks, I would be glad to forward you measurements, or if you needed I can send you the broken flex so you can match it up.
        The worst part is that I have been fighting the weather here for a while. Today was a calm day and I didn't have my Zelos with me. Only brought the Veles today.

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        • MADRCER
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2017
          • 751

          #79
          Originally posted by MADRCER
          Not even close. The stock Geico 29 v3 cable is 12 inches long and the Veles cable is 13 3/16 inches long. The drive dog cut outs are different spaced as well.

          I also made some good use of some of the packing foam, I put a couple of pieces that were already cut perfectly in the front of the bow. They were like they were made for this area. Only the one large block in the center was there from the factory.

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          Originally posted by kfxguy
          Just letting you guys know that I could make you a stronger flex. I'll need some measurements for the first one. I silver solder all of mine and I haven't broke one yet. I definitely don't trust a crimped cable. At all. Why they would do that is beyond me, you would think that saving a few pennies now to cost you more later (warranty and upset customers) just wouldn't be worth it. Hey, yea, in a low speed shockwave 26 this sort of cable may work, but definitely not in a boat like this.
          I'm Game. Overall length is 13 3/16 inch see photos of my previous post on the Geico v3 cable comparison with the Veles. What other info would you need? I don't want to go .187 yet.... Put me on the list for a cable and let me know when you get it ready.

          Originally posted by vinnyp
          The wind finally died down today. I took advantage of it to test out my new Veles 29 for its maiden run. Unfortunately, it didn't go very well or even last very long. I dropped the boat in the water, took a real slow ride to where I normally turn, turned back towards me, opened the throttle to about 1/2 for its first run and it didn't move more than a couple of feet. Walked out to get and found the flex came apart at the crimp! Prop and drive dog were at the bottom of the bay. Before you ask, I greased the flex. There was no binding in the flex either. Remarkably, after walking around a bit in the knee deep water, I found the prop! Just for the record, I had the stock prop on. I wanted a base line run before trying anything new out. Didn't happen today. Called Horizon, they will send me a new flex. To my knowledge, there is no upgraded flex available yet for this boat, other than wire drives. I am not feeling good about putting one of my good props on this flex. I don't care too much if I were to loose a stock prop, but don't want to loose one of my good ABC's.. Any options?
          Dang! I was afraid of that...
          Last edited by MADRCER; 09-11-2017, 07:54 PM.
          TFL Zonda (124mph), Miss Geico Zelos 36 (108mph), Veles 29 (91mph), Zelos Twin 36 (90mph), Miss Geico 29v3 (83.5mph), Sonicwake 36 V2 (83mph), Blackjack 42 (81mph), TFL Pursuit (79mph), UL-19 (75mph), Sonicwake 36 (73mph), Motley Crew (47.5mph), AquaCraft Rescue 17

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          • kfxguy
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Oct 2013
            • 8746

            #80
            Originally posted by vinnyp
            Thanks, I would be glad to forward you measurements, or if you needed I can send you the broken flex so you can match it up.
            The worst part is that I have been fighting the weather here for a while. Today was a calm day and I didn't have my Zelos with me. Only brought the Veles today.
            Pm coming


            I can make you guys really whatever you want. I will have to order parts from the ose store because I don't keep stuff on hand to make smaller cables.....I only have about 90ft of .187 flex on hand but I do have .150 axle stubs. I got tired of ose and kintec running out of cable stock so I made a jig and started making my own shafts a while back. Here's the deal tho, once ose starts offering upgraded cables for this boat, I will no longer make them. The only reason I'm willing to do it is to fill the gap for you guys right now and get you going with piece of mind knowing that you won't lose your prop again. Even though they send you a replacement, won't the thought still be worrying you that the replacement might fail because it's crimped? No personal gain to be had here. Personally I like proboat boats and I don't mind helping the guys that own them. So if you need a cable, pm me.
            Last edited by kfxguy; 09-11-2017, 02:29 PM.
            32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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            • vinnyp
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2017
              • 283

              #81
              Thanks Travis. You are 100% correct. Like I said before, I don't trust these cables with my good props. PM sent to you with my information.

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              • MADRCER
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2017
                • 751

                #82
                Here's a Benchmark to go by (60mph) on the Veles 100% all stock boat prop and all on 6s....Video coming soon... The ABC is on now if I can make another run before the rain starts back.

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                TFL Zonda (124mph), Miss Geico Zelos 36 (108mph), Veles 29 (91mph), Zelos Twin 36 (90mph), Miss Geico 29v3 (83.5mph), Sonicwake 36 V2 (83mph), Blackjack 42 (81mph), TFL Pursuit (79mph), UL-19 (75mph), Sonicwake 36 (73mph), Motley Crew (47.5mph), AquaCraft Rescue 17

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                • kfxguy
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Oct 2013
                  • 8746

                  #83
                  How good does it turn?
                  32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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                  • MADRCER
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2017
                    • 751

                    #84
                    Pretty good now that I almost got it tweaked out. It's as good as my MC in the turning category.
                    Last edited by MADRCER; 09-12-2017, 10:17 PM.
                    TFL Zonda (124mph), Miss Geico Zelos 36 (108mph), Veles 29 (91mph), Zelos Twin 36 (90mph), Miss Geico 29v3 (83.5mph), Sonicwake 36 V2 (83mph), Blackjack 42 (81mph), TFL Pursuit (79mph), UL-19 (75mph), Sonicwake 36 (73mph), Motley Crew (47.5mph), AquaCraft Rescue 17

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                    • vinnyp
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2017
                      • 283

                      #85
                      Great run. I hope to test mine soon.

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                      • vinnyp
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2017
                        • 283

                        #86
                        At least your flex didn't fall apart!!

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                        • MADRCER
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2017
                          • 751

                          #87
                          Veles 29 hits 70mph with ABC prop!

                          Here is the 70mph run. The boat still needs a little tweaking.The temps are higher than normal because this run was right after my initial all stock 60mph run and the rain was about to start back, so I couldn't wait as long as I would like to have before going back out. "warranty is up"!!! (as Chris says). I got to thank him again as well....Thanks to Chris for the Awesome Prop that helped me get in the 70+mph club again with another stock boat.

                          70mph Veles 29 ABC PROP 9-12-17.jpg

                          Last edited by MADRCER; 09-13-2017, 12:44 AM.
                          TFL Zonda (124mph), Miss Geico Zelos 36 (108mph), Veles 29 (91mph), Zelos Twin 36 (90mph), Miss Geico 29v3 (83.5mph), Sonicwake 36 V2 (83mph), Blackjack 42 (81mph), TFL Pursuit (79mph), UL-19 (75mph), Sonicwake 36 (73mph), Motley Crew (47.5mph), AquaCraft Rescue 17

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                          • MADRCER
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2017
                            • 751

                            #88
                            VELES 29 Hits 60mph (100% stock boat)

                            All stock boat 100%..The stock prop has been sharpened and balanced by Chris Hoffmann (Dasboata). Temps were 133° on the ESC & 143° on the motor after a pretty hard run (batteries were down to 3.85volts per cell). Thanks for watching!

                            60mph stock Veles 29 9-12-17.jpgVeles 60mph all stock.jpg

                            TFL Zonda (124mph), Miss Geico Zelos 36 (108mph), Veles 29 (91mph), Zelos Twin 36 (90mph), Miss Geico 29v3 (83.5mph), Sonicwake 36 V2 (83mph), Blackjack 42 (81mph), TFL Pursuit (79mph), UL-19 (75mph), Sonicwake 36 (73mph), Motley Crew (47.5mph), AquaCraft Rescue 17

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                            • kfxguy
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Oct 2013
                              • 8746

                              #89
                              Could some please do me a big favor. Measure the mounting pad on the strut where it bolts to the transom. Height and width. Thx!
                              32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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                              • REDLINE1
                                Senior Member
                                • Jul 2016
                                • 199

                                #90
                                Originally posted by MADRCER
                                Here is the 70mph run. The boat still needs a little tweaking.The temps are higher than normal because this run was right after my initial all stock 60mph run and the rain was about to start back, so I couldn't wait as long as I would like to have before going back out. "warranty is up"!!! (as Chris says). I got to thank him again as well....Thanks to Chris for the Awesome Prop that helped me get in the 70+mph club again with another stock boat.

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                                Looking good! You think you'll be able to top your Geico speed?

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