Rio EP Brushless Setup

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  • KajunATVer
    Junior Member
    • Feb 2010
    • 8

    #1

    Rio EP Brushless Setup

    Hello, I'm new to the forum and to R/C boats (i have planes, off-road trucks, and helis--all electric). I just installed the following brushless setup in my Rio EP:
    Turnigy 36-56 2700kv motor, Turnigy 120A ESC, stock prop, and am powering everything with a Turnigy 5000mah 3s lipo.

    On my first run at the pond I first noticed that the cog is off since the boat runs really wet and wants to hook to the left when I stab the throttle. Would moving the cog back help with the hooking? I drilled out the stock coupler to fit the larger diameter motor shaft and made sure all of the set screws were tight, however the flex cable came off but luckily the boat was heading toward the shore and floated close enough to where I could grab it without getting wet

    Any help with my setup would be greatly appreciated, especially since this combo seems to have A LOT of power... maybe too much???
  • illz302
    Banned
    • Sep 2009
    • 191

    #2
    My boat does the same "hooking" even stock. I believe it is because of the torque but I am new to this and I could easily be wrong. I also on my stock rio tried bending the trim tabs up but it didn't really seem to make much adjustment to me.

    Could you post some pics and a video? I have been considering converting to BL but I am worried it will be too much for this hull.

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    • Brushless55
      Creator
      • Oct 2008
      • 9488

      #3
      that little bugger should be fast with that motor!
      .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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      • KajunATVer
        Junior Member
        • Feb 2010
        • 8

        #4
        I don't have any video yet but I'll try to get some when I get the new flex cable and drive dog in. I never had the hooking problem when the boat was stock and it ran beautifully stock after I adjusted the trim tabs some. I added some weight to the stern last night and have the COG approximately 7" from the transom. Hopefully it will run straight now and yes, it seems like it will be crazy fast!

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        • illz302
          Banned
          • Sep 2009
          • 191

          #5
          hmm thanks for the info.

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          • Karfrik
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Jun 2009
            • 1177

            #6
            Kajun,any progress on this lately?.....Al

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            • KajunATVer
              Junior Member
              • Feb 2010
              • 8

              #7
              I actually ran the boat this morning and it's still running way too wet. Under hard acceleration it still wants to hook and torque roll to the right. It actually barrel rolled once but ended up right side up I adjusted the starboard trim tab and it helped a little with the torque roll. Also, under acceleration the whole boat kind of sinks down and plows through the water. I have my COG at about 30% by adding weight to the stern. I'm thinkin now that the motor is too far forward and I will need to modify the motor mount to get the motor towards the stern more. I'm not sure how I'm going to do this yet since the motor is 44mm on one end and smaller on the end where the shaft comes out (this is the end I have in the mount). If anyone has any suggestions, please let me know.

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              • KajunATVer
                Junior Member
                • Feb 2010
                • 8

                #8
                OK, I moved the motor and mount about an inch toward the stern and removed the weights I added and the boat still runs way too wet. It actually ran better after I removed the weights. It still wants to roll to the right under hard accelleration and seems to be plowing through the water. I'm running the stock prop. Is there another prop I can try that gives more bow lift? I'm now starting to think that the motor is just too heavy???

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                • Brushless55
                  Creator
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 9488

                  #9
                  possibly a smaller 3 blade would take alot of the torque roll out
                  stock prop is 42mm
                  .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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                  • KajunATVer
                    Junior Member
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 8

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Brushless55
                    possibly a smaller 3 blade would take alot of the torque roll out
                    stock prop is 42mm
                    Somethimg like this? http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...Series+3+Blade

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                    • Brushless55
                      Creator
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 9488

                      #11
                      I think that one is to small
                      I would try either a 38mm or 40mm 3 blade
                      .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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                      • thegreat1
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 249

                        #12
                        brushless it is funny that you say the 35 is too small. because that is just the prop i plan on using.

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                        • Brushless55
                          Creator
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 9488

                          #13
                          Originally posted by thegreat1
                          brushless it is funny that you say the 35 is too small. because that is just the prop i plan on using.
                          depends on the setup
                          .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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                          • thegreat1
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 249

                            #14
                            we are basically running the same thing

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                            • thegreat1
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 249

                              #15
                              oh just went back up and saw he is only running 3s that makes a difference. as i am running both 3 and 4s. sorry brushless wasn't trying to start nothing

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