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  • wheelnut
    Junior Member
    • Jun 2007
    • 23

    #1

    Brushless first run also need help

    Hi guys. I have upgraded using the AMMO 28-35-5100 with the Mamba esc and .047 wire drive. It was running fine and fast, the only problem is the wire drive is not holding up to the power and broke where it was soldered into the prop shaft. I need help to upgrade the drive. But I don't want to pull out the stock stuffing tube. So could you reccommend what to fit in there. The stock stuffing tube is approx 1/8"
    Thanks for any help.

    Ride the edge between Fast and Disaster!
  • Diegoboy
    Administrator
    • Mar 2007
    • 7244

    #2
    .098 man, Still think it's excessive?
    "A quick temper will make a fool of you soon enough."
    . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Bruce Lee. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

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    • wheelnut
      Junior Member
      • Jun 2007
      • 23

      #3
      Thanks, Since I am no pro, can you ellaborate on that a little.
      First thing I need to know is what all hardware I need to get it all hooked up. I am pretty sure the motor shaft is 1/8" and so is the stuffing tube.
      Ride the edge between Fast and Disaster!

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      • Diegoboy
        Administrator
        • Mar 2007
        • 7244

        #4
        I'm sure there is a wire that would do it right, but I have no experience with wire drives. The .098 would require a new stuffing tube, and I'm still debating if I want to go through the removal of the stock one.
        "A quick temper will make a fool of you soon enough."
        . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Bruce Lee. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

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        • wheelnut
          Junior Member
          • Jun 2007
          • 23

          #5
          Why would a .098 need a new stuffing tube? 1/8 converts to .125 wich is larger than .098. So .098 cable will fit in a 1/8 stuffing tube right?
          Ride the edge between Fast and Disaster!

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          • Diegoboy
            Administrator
            • Mar 2007
            • 7244

            #6
            not with the teflon liner
            "A quick temper will make a fool of you soon enough."
            . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Bruce Lee. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

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            • SJFE
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Apr 2007
              • 4735

              #7
              So why not a .62 wire? Guy's what's the issue with pulling the factory tube? Heat it up crack the epoxy and pull right?

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              • wheelnut
                Junior Member
                • Jun 2007
                • 23

                #8
                This hull is very thin and I don't want to risk ruining it by trying to pull out the stock stuffing tube, and its not worth all the work it will take to repair it if it does get ruined.

                I am interested in the .062 wire. Would you care to elaborate on that a little? What would it attach to at the prop end? I am not familiar with setting up wire or flex shaft drives.
                Thanks
                Ride the edge between Fast and Disaster!

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                • SJFE
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 4735

                  #9
                  It all depends it the bigger wire fits in your tube. If so Id just order a .62 wire drive with an 1/8th propshaft. Assuming the rio props are 1/8th.

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                  • wheelnut
                    Junior Member
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 23

                    #10
                    I am looking at the wire drive systems from offshore and the .062 wire fill fit, but the 3/16 prop shaft will not fit in the tube. Any ideas on that?
                    Thanks
                    Ride the edge between Fast and Disaster!

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                    • Bigmax
                      Junior Member
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 27

                      #11
                      not with the teflon liner
                      I'm new at this as well... but couldn't you just use the .098 wire with this .098 flex cable to 1/8th shaft (http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...prod=oct-oc4ps) without the teflon liner?

                      The only reason I can see to need the teflon liner is the abraision of the flex cable against the stuffing tube which would be all but eliminated with a smooth wire drive. Am I missing something here?

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                      • wheelnut
                        Junior Member
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 23

                        #12
                        Thanks Bigmax, that is the info I was looking for, I thing:)
                        I will give that a try, as soon as they get it back in stock.
                        Last edited by wheelnut; 05-18-2008, 04:51 PM. Reason: new info
                        Ride the edge between Fast and Disaster!

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                        • Bigmax
                          Junior Member
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 27

                          #13
                          Wheelnut, I'm not sure if the .098 flex and the .098 wire are the same OD??? I think if you look at the teflon tubing it says .098 flex or .062 wire. Not sure why? I would be interested to know what the ID of that prop shaft is.

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                          • Diegoboy
                            Administrator
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 7244

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Bigmax
                            I'm new at this as well... but couldn't you just use the .098 wire with this .098 flex cable to 1/8th shaft (http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...prod=oct-oc4ps) without the teflon liner?

                            The only reason I can see to need the teflon liner is the abraision of the flex cable against the stuffing tube which would be all but eliminated with a smooth wire drive. Am I missing something here?
                            Yes.
                            The word "smooth" isn't describing the wire nor the flex cable. It's in reference to the type of coupler that will be required. You are correct in that it( teflon) eliminates the abrasion at the "bend" in the stuffing tube. Over a period of time, the abrasion will force those that didn't remove the tube, to remove the tube anyway. Again, IDK a darn thing about wire drives, so...
                            "A quick temper will make a fool of you soon enough."
                            . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Bruce Lee. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

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                            • mtgoat
                              Member
                              • Apr 2008
                              • 81

                              #15
                              Wheelnut, I would not be too afraid of replacing the stuffing tube. I have done this and so have several of the guys at the local pond to our Mini-Vs. It's not as difficult as I thought it would be. The new tube is held in place with epoxy thickened with micro balloons.

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