Promarine?

[Darin Jordan]

In NAMBA, you can parallel all you want, but total capacity can't exceed 10,000 for P. So, if you run twins, it's 4S1P 5000 per motor.

There ARE other configurations you COULD do, but the total capacity can't exceed 10,000 (N2 thru Q. S-T allow 12,000). Only P-T allow multiple motors.

c. There are two acceptable multi-motor configurations for the Power
Specifications that allow multiple motors:

i) Each motor must see a nominal voltage within the Power
Specification. The mAh capacity maximum within the same Power
Specification is for all motors combined.

ii) The sum of the nominal voltages powering each motor must be within
the Power Specification. The mAh capacity maximum within the
same Power Specification is for each motor.

I don't know of any records that have been set with anything other than 2 motors, each powered by the applicable voltage and the mAh split between them, but I don't look inside of ALL the bigger boats.

[kfxguy]

In IMPBA you can run 4s7000P if you can float it. No mah restrictions of any kind.

Not sure how they work twins though. Is a 4s twin an 8s? Sorry for the ignorance.

I just skimmed over namba rules. Here's the just of it:

P limited is one motor, 10000mah max
P,Q is any amount or size of motors 10000mah max
S,T is any amount or size of motors and 12000mah max


In impba your limited to one motor.....I'm going to verify this so hang tight

[kfxguy]

Ok. I copy and paste this from impba. It seems to be unclear whether you can use two batteries or not. It could mean that two batteries make up a "pack" as long as it falls in the max voltage. I dunno.

A ‘pack’ is defined as the cell(s) wired in series or parallel or any wiring combination that is used to provide electrical power to the speed control for the purpose of driving the electrical motor(s).
a. Only one pack maybe used even if multiple speed controls are used.
b. The pack must be made up of only one type of cell chemistry.
c. In multiple speed control/motor installations the total pack voltage must be used as the supply input to each speed control. You are not allowed to tap off voltage or switch a packs’ parallel/series configuration during operation.


Here's namba. A little more clear

[properchopper]

NAMBA Q is 10Kmah max

[kfxguy]

NAMBA Q is 10Kmah max

Your right, I fixed my post. Eyes must have gotten crossed trying to read all this little print on my phone. Lol

[Peter A]

If Wilmer is your team driver I'm completely out and will have nothing to do with Promarine on any level.

So if Wilmer was 'team driver' for blazer marine would you take a hammer to your whips? Point is here that just because you don't like an individual does that make every thing else hateable? I can appreciate that you don't like a person but this sort of attitude does nothing for our hobby overall. You know how hard it is to get people involved and keep them. I have myself had to grow a bit of a thick skin and accept some people for the bigger benefit of the hobby. As NZ president I have copped a little bit of crap from some, but y'know, whatever eh!

What matters here is how the boat does, and most will know it takes a bit of on water time to dial in, get used to a new boat, and get it performing at it's best. So whether or not it got a record, how did the boat perform? Any vids?

[T.S.Davis]

So if Wilmer was 'team driver' for blazer marine would you take a hammer to your whips?

No.

However, if Brian decided to make Wilmer a representative of his company by making him his "team driver" then I wouldn't recommend his product to anyone if asked. Not likely as Brian already has a reputation of his own that includes many years of racing through multiple generations of the Blazer family. He needs no assistance promoting his product. If/when you choose someone to represent you that person becomes a reflection of your companies character too. I don't recommend Atomik, Venom, Novak, Joysway, or Airtronics either. That's okay though. I'm just some guy from MI. Somebody buys that stuff but it wont be because I suggested they get it.

Could be as simple as Wilmer bought one. Not the same thing.

The thread was started to find out how it ran in traffic. The few video that I have seen are a tic grainy. A video doesn't tell the whole story anyway. How it feels driving across an angular wake. How it takes a stray gust. How it responds to different props, strut adjustments, CG movement. Does it get flighty at some point? How does it track? Some things need to be felt in the hand if that makes any sense. Not sure I'm explaining myself at all. I just wondered if any racers I knew had driven one in traffic. The answer is still no.

Travis, I knew how the NAMBA book read. I wasn't sure about IMPBA. I may look it up in a bit here.

[T.S.Davis]

Found it.

P is one motor in IMPBA.

[Darin Jordan]

Found it.

P is one motor in IMPBA.

Interesting... that's a BIG distinction from NAMBA...

[Peter A]

The thread was started to find out how it ran in traffic. The few video that I have seen are a tic grainy. A video doesn't tell the whole story anyway. How it feels driving across an angular wake. How it takes a stray gust. How it responds to different props, strut adjustments, CG movement. Does it get flighty at some point? How does it track? Some things need to be felt in the hand if that makes any sense. Not sure I'm explaining myself at all. I just wondered if any racers I knew had driven one in traffic. The answer is still no.

Yep that's the stuff we want to know.

[kfxguy]

Interesting... that's a BIG distinction from NAMBA...

Yes and that's the reason why impba p cat is at 78.xx and namba is over 100.

[kfxguy]

No.

However, if Brian decided to make Wilmer a representative of his company by making him his "team driver" then I wouldn't recommend his product to anyone if asked. Not likely as Brian already has a reputation of his own that includes many years of racing through multiple generations of the Blazer family. He needs no assistance promoting his product. If/when you choose someone to represent you that person becomes a reflection of your companies character too. I don't recommend Atomik, Venom, Novak, Joysway, or Airtronics either. That's okay though. I'm just some guy from MI. Somebody buys that stuff but it wont be because I suggested they get it.

Could be as simple as Wilmer bought one. Not the same thing.

The thread was started to find out how it ran in traffic. The few video that I have seen are a tic grainy. A video doesn't tell the whole story anyway. How it feels driving across an angular wake. How it takes a stray gust. How it responds to different props, strut adjustments, CG movement. Does it get flighty at some point? How does it track? Some things need to be felt in the hand if that makes any sense. Not sure I'm explaining myself at all. I just wondered if any racers I knew had driven one in traffic. The answer is still no.

Travis, I knew how the NAMBA book read. I wasn't sure about IMPBA. I may look it up in a bit here.

Funny, I didn't think about how all those products are from the same company and I don't/won't use any of their products because I feel like they are toys I could get from Walmart. (That's putting it lightly) lol

[Darin Jordan]

Yes and that's the reason why impba p cat is at 78.xx and namba is over 100.

Perhaps. A single motor isn't really an excuse though. That record can be MUCH faster.

As an example, my current N2-Cat record with NAMBA (single motor on 2S, 5400mAh total) is over 70mph, and I think IMPBAs is a tick faster. AND, I KNOW that I have the power in my current setup to break through 80mph... Just have to figure out how to keep the boat on the water at that speed.

I'm certain IMPBA will have their P-Cat record much faster if someone focuses on making it happen.

[jaike5]

[keithbradley]

I'm trying to remember off hand, but I believe that the NAMBA P-Cat record is up in the 120's now... The site still lists Boyd's record of 103 from 2013, but I think that Manuel Wenny went well into the 120's last November when we had the big 5-Day SAW at Legg.

Wilmer (Bill) told me that he had something "special" to blast through the lights with at the next SAW event. Guess this might be it??

You sure Darin? I know Manuel set the Q record at that event, but later gave it up to Andi...I'm not sure he ran in P. I thought that record was still Boyd's.