Promarine?

[ray schrauwen]

I see a price for the larger boat for $589+ shipping but no price on the smaller Skater hull????

[JMSCARD]

Yes, hull and hardware is what many of us may want. Most of us have tx and Rx with motors and escs kicking around.

I agree.... I'd just be REAL concerned about running 6s on that motor.... I have run a quite a few dialed mean machines on 5s 2200kv setup with seaking 180 esc, and that is one hot setup... pulls over 120 amps, so even though that esc may be taking it... well, its not going to last forever being pushed like that.... I believe its been working, but honestly its a matter of time... a well trimmed 29" boat with the 1515 2200kv motor on 5s is about as hot of a setup as I care to play with...

I would certainly love to see a hull/hardware option no question.... GREAT looking hull.... and love the graphics I'm seeing on the site... about time we se a scale looking setup! Very nice.

[kfxguy]

My preference would be for the boat, less the electrics. I'd much rather add motor (TP), ESC (data logging) , Rx (Spektrum - don't need a Tx) and servo (digital) of my choosing. Hopefully that will be an option.

I asked him about hull and hardware a couple months ago. He said not at this time. I'd be willing to bet that if there's enough demand for it, he may end up doing it. But really...how much less do you think it would cost? Maybe $100? I think you'd come out better buying it complete and either selling the stuff out of it or using it in something else. A seaking 120 is a useful little esc to have.

[T.S.Davis]

If I had one I would be racing it. I don't really want an SSS motor. The 2075 is too many KV to race (race,race,race) on 6s. The speedo will take 6s but he didn't suggest running the boat on 6s. It's too small to sprint on 6s anyway. On 4s I would want to know what happens in traffic on both full P and on limited spec power. The SSS motors isn't what I would run for P. Full on hardcore racer types are NOT the market though so for a RTR the SSS motor is better than most. Nuts like myself are not the average buyer either.

If the intent is to put them on shelves I can understand wanting to sell a complete package. Same thing Proboat and Aquacraft do with theirs. You make a small percentage on ALL of the pieces to make it viable dollar wise. If you take out the electronics, radio, etc the margins go down. At some point there is well......no point. Mike, track me down if you're thinking about retailing these. I might be able to help with that around here. No strings attached.

In truth, the boats look so sweet they should sell themselves.

Not sure what his goals are with this offering. I'm sure he'll get back to us on that.

[kfxguy]

If I had one I would be racing it. I don't really want an SSS motor. The 2075 is too many KV to race (race,race,race) on 6s. The speedo will take 6s but he didn't suggest running the boat on 6s. It's too small to sprint on 6s anyway. On 4s I would want to know what happens in traffic on both full P and on limited spec power. The SSS motors isn't what I would run for P. Full on hardcore racer types are NOT the market though so for a RTR the SSS motor is better than most. Nuts like myself are not the average buyer either.

If the intent is to put them on shelves I can understand wanting to sell a complete package. Same thing Proboat and Aquacraft do with theirs. You make a small percentage on ALL of the pieces to make it viable dollar wise. If you take out the electronics, radio, etc the margins go down. At some point there is well......no point. Mike, track me down if you're thinking about retailing these. I might be able to help with that around here. No strings attached.

In truth, the boats look so sweet they should sell themselves.

Not sure what his goals are with this offering. I'm sure he'll get back to us on that.

I agree with everything you say. Well in this post..I kid I kid lol. Anyways...I'm pretty sure he told me he races it on 4s. I think what the 6s thing is it will handle it (well really for how long I dunno) and he's getting really good speeds out of it on 6s. For those speed demons, wanting to make some quick blasts then it will do it. I definitely would not race the boat on 6s....way too much power for that. I'm no oval racer like you guys but I've run laps by myself and in my own waves , (and it's even worse with other boats) over 60mph is not easy to do. Well for me anyway. Lol

[kfxguy]

Btw, if any of you guys have anything you need me to ask mike, let me know and I'll text him. He doesn't hang on the forum like us junkies lol

[Flying Scotsman]

Hmm.....I personally would buy the hull, hardware and servo, if it was an option. I think this is a more prudent way to sell FE boats. Let the buyer buy/install the other goodies of his choice. The reason behind this is I think most buyers of RTR boats use initially crap batteries get frustrated with low speed and then overpower the hull with silly setups and get frustrated with the sport. Do net get me wrong I started with an RTR many moons ago, it was slow, brushed motors, so so radio but it was a great learning curve and fun. I got bit with the hobby and progressed from there with much help from seasoned model boaters on RRR and now OSE. There are now a few pretty good fast RTR boats...maybe too fast for newbies.
Ahh ...there he goes again rambling on about being cautious with setups and safety...Yup, I am an "old fart" but you have to walk before you run.
This a nice looking hull though and I am looking forward to an unbiased review.

Douggie

[rickwess]

I asked him about hull and hardware a couple months ago. He said not at this time. I'd be willing to bet that if there's enough demand for it, he may end up doing it. But really...how much less do you think it would cost? Maybe $100? I think you'd come out better buying it complete and either selling the stuff out of it or using it in something else. A seaking 120 is a useful little esc to have.

I have no idea what the decrease would be. I just have no desire to buy a RTR boat and then replace the electrics. Yes I could re-sell them, but that just seems like a waste of everyone's time.

My suggestion for the business case, make most, or all your margin on the boat+hardware and add the electrics at close to cost. At the end of the day, you make the same amount of money on what gets shipped out the door and open up your market to include more of the enthusiasts. The value to most here is being provided in the hull+hardware combination, not providing/installing the electrics for us.

[Doby]

Douggie...Didn't you use to run FE boats powered by kites during thunderstorms....you are kinda old!

[kfxguy]

I have no idea what the decrease would be. I just have no desire to buy a RTR boat and then replace the electrics. Yes I could re-sell them, but that just seems like a waste of everyone's time.

My suggestion for the business case, make most, or all your margin on the boat+hardware and add the electrics at close to cost. At the end of the day, you make the same amount of money on what gets shipped out the door and open up your market to include more of the enthusiasts. The value to most here is being provided in the hull+hardware combination, not providing/installing the electrics for us.

I agree totally but you know what they say...you can't please everybody. For the record, I asked him about hull and hardware because I was interested in the same thing too.

[Flying Scotsman]

Douggie...Didn't you use to run FE boats powered by kites during thunderstorms....you are kinda old!

Those were the days....loved the response

Douggie

[skater368]

Guys
I have been in the Keys debuting the Skater & MTR to the real boat guys. They loved them ! If you follow me, my racing team or the Pro Marine RC page, you will see where we were. We gave away one for charity, Reef Relief, the gentleman who won bought another one on the spot too. I ran a demo in the harbor too. People flipped on how well it ran on 4s !
Here a pic of the painted MTR.
And on the RTR, ARTR or hull only. It's true, it would only save you about $125 bucks. So it's best I focus on this for now.
I have several designs to be built via contract because they loved the build, my design and attention to detail .
I'm going to be a busy man between now and February !
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[kfxguy]

Man that green one looks sick! But you already know how I feel about green. Lol

[skater368]

Its a nice boat. Back on topic!

What is required to be on waiting list? Pre order?

Must pay for it. Will be shipping out of warehouse in Indianapolis in days.

[skater368]

image.jpg oh boy. Game changer. Come see her perform in Huntsville these weekend