Corrosion X and FrogLube

[SweetAccord]

My nose told me the bearing oil from Scorpion is some how related to the Corrosion X...lol.....

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I agree with you. I have both and they do look, smell, and feel exactly the same with the save viscosity. I did a needle drop of each on white paper, each absorbed exactly the same. I wonder if this is another rebadging of a product to the consumer. Likely Scorpion is rebadging it.

[tlandauer]

I agree with you. I have both and they do look, smell, and feel exactly the same with the save viscosity. I did a needle drop of each on white paper, each absorbed exactly the same. I wonder if this is another rebadging of a product to the consumer. Likely Scorpion is rebadging it.

I am quite sure that it's re-badging. I also think that it's the CorrosionX. However, since I don't have the other lubricants made by the maker of CorrosionX, what I like to know is which one of the lubricants (such as Speed X) did Scorpion bottle as their bearing oil? I assume they all "smell similarly"...

[dmitry100]

MG1234: Heat shrink seems rather expensive for one especially of that size. Kapton tape seems much cheaper...

[SweetAccord]

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I am quite sure that it's re-badging. I also think that it's the CorrosionX. However, since I don't have the other lubricants made by the maker of CorrosionX, what I like to know is which one of the lubricants (such as Speed X) did Scorpion bottle as their bearing oil? I assume they all "smell similarly"...

They do smell exactly the same. I had quite a few people do a smell test of the two (regular Corrosion X) and they can't tell the difference.

[NativePaul]

I use Corrosion X on my car door hinges also throttle, clutch, bonnet, boot, VSS, cables.

[gsbuickman]

As a general rule if something works well I prefer not to change it unless there is a proven performance increase in doing so. For stuffing tubes are use marine grease, it does the job it's designed to do and works well.

When I am running semi sealed or sealed bearings, I like to clean them up and drop them na cup of WD40 or Tri-Flow and let them soak for a while before reinstalling them. When I am using open face bearings I like to pack them with Valvoline or Cam 2 high speed bearing grease.

For an example of the weirdest lubricant substitute I can think of that actually worked very well was substituting Ohlins shock oil in the automatic transmission of my .030 over 84' Husqvarna CR500 2 stroke thumper.

It had variable timing so you could adjust the power output w/ max power at 12mm btdc and breathed thru a massive 40mm Mikuni carb and a set of Boysen power reeds so it was a real powerhouse.

The most readily available transmission fluid for it was Ohlins shock oil which worked well, but after doing a bunch of research and talking to a bunch of desert racers that ran the automatic Husqvarna's I was let in on the secret of using elevator oil instead. The blanks ran smoothly, cooler and it widened the shift points so you could really sind each gear out before it would shift without losing viscosity and burning up
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There are thousands of products on the market for a myriad of applications but sometimes you have to get creative and think outside of the box .

[gsbuickman]

As a general rule if something works well I prefer not to change it unless there is a proven performance increase in doing so. For stuffing tubes I use marine grease, it does the job it's designed to do and works well.

When I am running semi sealed or sealed bearings, I like to clean them up and drop them na cup of WD40 or Tri-Flow and let them soak for a while before reinstalling them. When I am using open face bearings I like to pack them with Valvoline or Cam 2 high speed bearing grease.

For an example of the weirdest lubricant substitute I can think of that actually worked very well, it was substituting Ohlins shock oil in the automatic transmission of my .030 over 84' Husqvarna CR500 2 stroke thumper for elevator oil.

It had variable timing so you could adjust the power output w/ max power at 12mm btdc and breathed thru a massive 40mm Mikuni carb and a set of Boysen power reeds so it was a real powerhouse.

The most readily available transmission fluid for it was Ohlins shock oil which worked well, but after doing a bunch of research and talking to a bunch of desert racers that ran the automatic Husqvarna's I was let in on the secret of using elevator oil instead. The bikes ran smoother, cooler and it widened the shift points so you could really wind each gear out before it would shift without losing viscosity and burning up.

As far as my guns go, i use Hoppes #9, Rem oil and WD. If you're concerned with metal to metal friction contact whether it's on bearings or firearms the best thing you can do is treat the parts with ER - Energy Release. It's an anti friction inhibitor and adheres to the metal at a molecular level.

It also works great in the crankcase of motorcycles with oil bath clutches because it has zero effect on the clutches which is exactly what it was designed for. If you ask any machinist about it they'll tell you it works so well that before they can begin any kind of machine work on parts that have been treated with it they have to blow torch the ER off of them first, otherwise it dulls and burns up machining tools.
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There are thousands of products on the market for a myriad of applications but sometimes you have to get creative and think outside of the box .

[SweetAccord]

I found this back from 2008 before they were selling the Scorpion bearing oil.

New Policy concerning Warranty Coverage on Scorpion motors

All Scorpion motors come with a 2-Year warranty that covers defects in materials or workmanship, and this has not changed. The warranty change concerns the motor bearings, and is effective June 30, 2008. The Scorpion Company has no control over how the motors will be used in a model, and this is especially true for the helicopter motors. Due to the high spped at which these motors operate, if the gear lash is set too tight in a helicopter, the side loads on the bearings can cause failure in a little as 5-10 flights. Also, due to the high speeds at which these motors operate, often in excess of 40,000 RPM, the oil in the bearings can be thrown out after 10-12 flights. Because of these facts, we are recommending that the users of the Heli motors inspect the motor before each flight t make sure that there is no wobble in the output shaft. This will catch any problems with the bearings before the bearings actually fail. Scorpion also recommends that the bearings be oiled every 5-6 flights with a good silicone based motor oil, or a lubricating product such as Corrosion-X. This will ensure the longest possible life fir the bearings and the motor. If the bearings do wear to the point where the output shaft wobbles at all, the motor should be taken out of service and the bearings should be replaced. The bearings themselves will no longer be covered under the 2-year warranty, and any subsequent damage caused to the motor by the failure of a bearing will also not be covered. It is the responsibility of the end user to make sure that the bearings are in good condition prior to each flight, and to cease flying immediately if the motor begins emitting any abnormal sounds that may be a sign of the bearings starting to fail.

And this:

"I was speaking with Lucien at Inov8tive Designs - (Scorpion Motor Distributor in the US) a couple of years ago about some bearings and the question came up about the Motor Lube kit. I mentioned to him that it smelled and felt like CorrosionX and he said yeah same stuff."This leads me to believe Scorpion bearing oil is actually Corrosion-X.

[tlandauer]

HAHA, thank you!
At least my nose still works!

[SweetAccord]

HAHA, thank you!
At least my nose still works!

Ha yes your nose works, eyes and brains . I have an email out to Scorpion corporate to see what they have to say, or if they are willing to admit they are bottling Corrosion-X as Scorpion bearing oil. I will keep you updated as if that is true, it's a way better deal to buy Corrosion-X than the Scorpion bearing oil.

[SD Eracer]

I swear by Corrosion-X, since I run 100% in saltwater, it has saved my motors, ESCs, receivers, and misc electrical connectors many many times out in the field.

However, I never used it as a high speed lubricant. But considering my normal procedure for salt water in my brushless motors is to rinse them in freshwater and pickle the inside with Corrosion-X. Obviously everything including the bearings are soaked in Corrosion-X. I do however relube each bearing with Speed-X.

[SweetAccord]

It appears the Scorpion refuses to reply to my email about this inquiry. Guess they were caught with their pants down and don't want to admit it or they just have horrible email support as it's been a week and no reply.

[tlandauer]

Did you email them directly or through Innov8?

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[SweetAccord]

Did you email them directly or through Innov8?

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Email directly to: [email protected]

[tlandauer]

Interesting, may be for legal reasons they can't admit that.
I don't know, but the lack of response can be indicative that we are right about that. I have used the regular Corrosion X liberally on all my tunnel out board motors.l must admit that part of my fondness of this oil is its smell.

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