stuffing tube with or without teflon liner?

[DeltaForceMan]

I've read online that you can run you're stuffing tube with just brass and no teflon liner.. Can someone tell me if one setup is better then the other?

[Kaotic]

I run Teflon in my setups, less friction.

[Doug Smock]

It boils down to personal preference Zack.
I haven't run Teflon in years. Just one more thing to give you trouble, and IME they will.

[tlandauer]

I have both and I like both versions for different reasons. But I think with the liner one has to pay attention to its condition. It's not maintenance free. Over time the windings from the cable shed strands of teflon and it's hard to see with the residual grease on the cable. If left unattended, eventually the cable will catch and twist the tube and disaster will strike.
Just my $.02...

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[Kaotic]

I clean my tube with a pipe cleaner after each day of running then I'll clean the stuffing tube as well. I will leave the teflon liner out until the next time I run it. I grease both inside and outside of the liner liberally. I run my boat 4 times a week at high RPMs and a liner will last me almost a whole summer.

[longballlumber]

I clean my tube with a pipe cleaner after each day of running then I'll clean the stuffing tube as well. I will leave the teflon liner out until the next time I run it. I grease both inside and outside of the liner liberally. I run my boat 4 times a week at high RPMs and a liner will last me almost a whole summer.

By greasing both sides of the liner, do you have the expectation of the liner spinning inside of the brass stuffing tube? If so what is the advantage you see in this method?

Thanks,
Mike

[Kaotic]

No I don't see it spinning inside the stuffing tube, the reason I do it is more for keeping it water tight.

[tlandauer]

By greasing both sides of the liner, do you have the expectation of the liner spinning inside of the brass stuffing tube? If so what is the advantage you see in this method?

Thanks,
Mike

I would like to know as well. I was under the impression that the liner should be stationary. I take the liner out and specifically to clean and wipe away any old grease between the liner and the tube.
I also use pipe cleaner and yes, I realize it can last a long time, my point to the OP was meant as a heads up.



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[photohoward1]

Have not used Teflon in a long time. It will eventually twist and ruin your driveline. Just keep the shaft nice and lubed. Gas and nitro guys as far as I know have never used them.


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[kfxguy]

I don't use a liner either. I'm thinking about doing some back to back testing to see if it's worth any speed. I got some heavy duty stuff the other day to try. When I get time that is. Lol. But for now, no liner is serving me well.

[tlandauer]

No I don't see it spinning inside the stuffing tube, the reason I do it is more for keeping it water tight.

Sorry, didn't see your reply. I guess I was afraid if there is grease in between, it will facilitate the possibility of spinning the liner.
Good to learn something new always.

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[iridebikes247]

I've been using teflon for years and never have had a problem, I don't think I've really worn one out either but then again I use pretty thick lining. As long as the drive line is really nicely aligned you shouldn't really notice any wear where the cable exits the stuffing tube. If installing I have lightly scuffed the teflon and used a medium-acting CA glue and quickly slid into place and haven't had one spin running high rpm. I should mention I stick to SAW, the guys that run oval get more heat in the stuffing tube I think so can't really speak for oval running. For SAW I think teflon is fine.

[Kaotic]

I've been using teflon for years and never have had a problem, I don't think I've really worn one out either but then again I use pretty thick lining. As long as the drive line is really nicely aligned you shouldn't really notice any wear where the cable exits the stuffing tube. If installing I have lightly scuffed the teflon and used a medium-acting CA glue and quickly slid into place and haven't had one spin running high rpm. I should mention I stick to SAW, the guys that run oval get more heat in the stuffing tube I think so can't really speak for oval running. For SAW I think teflon is fine.

When you use CA to hold the liner in place, how long do you leave it in for? What I mean is, do you leave it in permenetly or do you break it loose every once in a while to clean/inspect it?

[johnl6676]

I use both and see no significant difference. In my opinion it is just personal preference. I use a liner with smaller shafts (.150) and no liner for larger (.187). I use the same size stuffing tube on all of my boats. Have had no trouble with either, again just personal preference. Hope this helps.

[DeltaForceMan]

All great info, thanks guys!